So that's why it's called the transitive property

Being born a woman sounds inconvenient. I was born a baby, which I highly recommend.

Love this and thank you for posting this!

Thank you 🥰🥰

Now if they would stop calling women females.

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Trans women are females

Ooh ya bugger

Latching on to this post to say that "biological sex" and "biological man" are and have been right wing dogwhistles carefully crafted for adoption by uninformed moderates

  • "Biological sex" provides no useful information about a trans person's biological traits, ESPECIALLY when applied to those of us who are deep into our transition. After a certain point, our physical biology is overall significantly closer to those of cis women than cis men, and any necessary nuance (eg: periods) is a private medical discussion that can be handled professionally.

  • "Biological man" is almost exclusively used by bad actors who want to imply that trans women have the same violent sexual tendencies as cis men. These are often the same people who rush to defend cis men who actually commit violent sexual acts.

I will die on this hill.

I'm well aware this is just the party the line at this point but as someone that grew up through 00's it's just wild as FUCK to me that "biological sex" could ever be considered 'right wing dog whistles'.

Again, language is fluid and I'm not really saying you're wrong. What I am saying, is this is new. 15 years ago there was no "right wing dog whistle" on this topic. Because the whole sex != gender thing wasn't even a commonly known topic. The 'dogwhistles' at the time were more about finding interesting ways to say you hate gay people, the idea that they were winking at transmen being "biologically female -> actually female" is just a very stupid, incorrect, joke. They were not thinking that. They were not hinting at that. They didn't know that position existed for them to try to hate it.

It was considered very progressive, at the time, to use terms like "biologically male" because that implied an acceptance of their identity outside of what biology dictated.

As you said language changes.

Firstly, the right fabricated the recent-ish trans outrage as a wedge issue to divide Dems and radicalize Repubs. That's the only reason there's been so much talk about it recently. We're being thrown into the spotlight and forced to defend ourselves

Secondly, despite a steep uphill battle, we've made scientific progress that helps us better understand the nuance in sex and gender topics

Though those terms may not have had the same connotations in the past (but people still called us slurs), we have existed since antiquity. To put it into perspective, I came out in 2014 and my therapist at the time had come out some 20 years before me.

These are often the same people who rush to defend cis men who actually commit violent sexual acts.

Holy shit, you're right.

Ayup. When the biology is controlled by hormones, what hrt mandates becomes the biology.

Yes even if you stop (i have a friend who stopped taking her E but because we're both menopausal age it did jack and shit but line her up to where she's supposed to be anyway)

Yeap anytime someone says "biological something" it triggers me

Earnestly asking.

In your eyes, terms like “cis woman” “trans woman” are ok, but “bio woman” is a dog whistle? Doesn’t cis ~= bio in that context?

Sometimes it feels like the bar for “hateful rhetoric” is too low. When it could easily just be explained by well meaning ignorance or even just a disagreement on terminology (but agreement on intent and broader philosophy)

so right wing people make up a term to describe something hatefully, but in a way that doesnt sound hateful if you dont know where it comes from. they get a lot of people to start using it without knowing its roots of hate. in time the term catches on with people who dont know better. later people learn what it means and since theyve been hearing it and using it and believing it they may just swallow the hate as a matter of course once they learn of it. they keep hearing it being used, so they feel like everyone is agreeing with them. thus hate is spread and reinforced by a seemingly innocuous word or phrase. words have meaning and context beyond their literal dictionary definition. so to answer your question, its hateful rhetoric because it comes from hateful people and is intended to carry a hateful message. well meaning ignorance is a tool of hate.

I just call people who say "biological gender" biological arseholes.

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