Drug rights!

Alternative path... Get Trans Medical Care classed as Medical Care, then get Medical Care as a human right.

Purely from an utilitarian POV, trans medical care has more in common with therapy than medical care.

One has a much lower chance of dying from not receiving HRT than from not getting a tooth correctly extracted, while the chances of dying from incorrect HRT are much higher than the chances of doing so from receiving unqualified therapy.

Please don't crucify me for defending this viewpoint.

trans medical care has more in common with therapy than medical care.

Therapy is medical care and has been since 1996. And it's weird to bring up tooth extraction as a contrast, because dental care is actually treated differently than medical care.

Do you have a datapoint on dying from incorrect HRT dosage? All I could find are the studies saying gender affirming care reduces risk of suicide.

Trans rights is just an empty platitude to cishet people who want to feel open-minded and progressive for not treating passing trans people like shit.

I'm cis, but for me it's basic bodily autonomy, I should be able to transition if I wanted to, and the fact that I don't want to, doesn't mean I shouldn't have that right.

I also support my gender non conforming friends. I'm not just a selfish prick

I agree. However, I wonder how easy this concept is to sell for general population. (Excuse me in advance, if my ramblings seem ignorant, just trying to organise my thoughts...)

Most people seem to agree that free trans healthcare is vital treatment for an illness of dysphoria that make people suicidal. This is the transmed position if I'm correct. They might be completely unaware that there are trans people without dysphoria. (Heck, I just recently learned that too.) The thing is, if being trans would not be classified as an illness, then it might fall into cathegory of cosmetic treatments or such that are not usually tax-funded. There would be freedom of choice but it would depend on one's personal wealth. Also, I get confused about this discussion whenever brought up, because US healthcare is so different compared to country where I live. (Well, our politicians are working on to change that by ruining everything.)

Do you think trans medicalists are the only people who are pro free hrt for trans people? That's delusional and completely wrong.

I'm not a transmedicalist and I also am a literal medical advocate fighting for my right to access free HRT and surgery? I can just straight up post my case if you want because I won't let this bad take stand. Dysphoria is still 100% a diagnosis that is separate from being trans and that is obviously not the reason trans healthcare has been put at risk on a global and local scale.

Sorry, I don't comprehend what made you draw that conclusion. I was merely speculating that free HRT without a diagnosis might not be very popular political reform, at least in my country.

"How dare you have medical transition needs!", yelled the angry petit bourgeoisie and middle classers who merely didn't want to pay $5 more (if that) on their yearly taxes to fund it, and equated it with government oppression

I think you mistyped "pay -$100" : trans peeps and their productivity leave otherwise...

does anyone actually call people who ask for trans medical care as a right truescum? from my experience thats only used by trans people, for other trans people who throw trans people who don't medical transition (in every possible way) under the bus. and i believe everyone who uses it like that agrees that trans medical care should be a right independent of whether everyone needs it.

anyway free (trans) healthcare for everyone now!!

kinda? it's a meme, so ofc it's exaggerated. but as hrt is getting more and more restricted, there's been a rise in "remember that you're just as valid if you're not on hrt!" messaging. the people who call this out as a tacit encouragement to not transition are often called transmeds (not so much "truscum", i don't really see people use that word these days, but they're pretty much synonyms anyway).

Huh? I tell people to right out come out of the closet and fight their right to medical care if they want it all the time because it's worth it and no one has ever called me truscum ever? Like people don't like hearing it but they don't call me truscum or transmed. That is a you problem

i mean it hasn't happened to me either, but i've seen it happen to other people, mostly on places like twitter or tiktok

Ah, why I would recommend moving off those platforms that silence pro-trans voices. It definitely does devolve to that when the only queer users left on your platform are the ones that are "safe" for cis people.

Basically the overton window is so far to the right on those platforms it makes sense that's where you would find the highest concentration of transphobic trans people. Then without voices of reason to do logic the arguments get really fucking stupid.

Every trans person I talk to is pro whatever type of gender affirming healthcare for every person who wants it trans or cis as far as I am aware lol.

The most basic of trans rights is the freedom of each person to modify their sex and their gender presentation as they see fit, and with minimal interference (none once a person has adult autonomy)

Its covered on the NHS, for now at least. But there have been a lot of attacks against it lately.

That’s shocking considering the state of Terf Island and Labour and Reform marrying the establishment.

Nigel Farage and Andy Burnham are spineless weak corrupt politicians.

They didn't bring it in, they just haven't ended it yet

Hi cis guy here, what does "truscum" mean in this context? I thought it was an antitrans slur?

From my understanding, it is someone who makes it a requirement for being trans to have dysphoria. Essentially a weird gatekeeper.

Among other related positions, yes.

"You aren't trans if you don't want bottom surgery" is another common one.

As a trans gal myself who wants bottom surgery; i think people should be able to decide for themselves. it's all valid

someone wants to get top surgery? go get it man

want feminising HRT, but no name or clothing change? hell yeah gal(by)

find euphoria more useful as measure and want nothing, just your acknowledgement as an empty void with sib as pronouns? yes absolutely sib

have what you have and be an ally? valid as hell

FOMO isn't a thing for everything; decide for yourself in what ways you want and need. the only one who can decide is you

and on that regard i think to make choices easier, all of it should be possible.

people should be able to decide for themselves

Yes! In all things, not just trans things. Hair color, piercings, tattoos, robot arms... whatever. It's your body so it's your choice. Always and forever.

I'm gonna get cancelled for this, but can we focus on things like redistributing the wealth, climate change, housing crisis, and election reform first? These things affect trans people and everyone else. I've been progressive-socialist my whole life but we are really shooting ourselves in the foot by picking this battle RIGHT NOW

"Can we focus on things that affect everyone before addressing racialised police violence? All lives matter!"

I think we can do both, personally. And I don't think trans people deserve to be told that their healthcare "can wait" because it's "not as important right now"

We can fight many battles at once! Trans healthcare is a subset of heathcare reform, which isn't on your list but probably should be.

Sure, but as a consolation prise, we take away your rights. Community will decide what your name is, how you look, what genitals you have, and if you as much as voice your displeasure you will get assaulted and thrown in jail. And to make it slightly more fair, we also do the same with everyone you ever loved, all your friends and family. Then we will ask you why aren't you active on the problems of housing crisis.

On second thought, nevermind. It's not a good way to live, I don't want to subject anyone to it, even you

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