I wanna boop the snoot
I like how everybody has gone from complaining about unaffordable housing to HOAs
Progress, I guess
Nice
I love bats!
Bats are a good thing... why would anyone complain?
Nimbys are bad people.
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Poop.
bat shit is actually very, very good fertilizer...
I learned that many years ago from The Wild Thornberrys.
Rabies.
An estimated <1% carry rabies and that number is skewed heavily because the ones tested tend to already be suspected due to disease/behavior.
My drunk ass got bit by a mouse pulling him out of a trash can at my wedding (it was basically in the woods). Did some research to see if I need a shot and it turns out the mice have never given a human rabies.
Anyway, while looking I got numbers on my country and the ones to my left and right. Bats were by far the most cases of infection, nothing was even close.
For the past 50 years, there have been fewer than 10 human cases of rabies reported each year in the United States. However, any potential rabies exposure should be taken seriously, and bats are no exception.
Bats are the most common species to test positively for rabies, but they are also the most common species tested. According to the rabies surveillance data from the CDC in 2023 (the most recent year for which data was published), bats accounted for 1,298 rabies-positive wildlife samples, followed by raccoons (1,085 positive samples). But when accounting for all bats tested over the year (nearly 24,000 specimens), this means only about 5% of tested bats were rabid. In contrast, 10% of submitted raccoons, 19% of submitted foxes, and 20% of submitted skunks returned positive rabies tests.
It is important to remember that simply being near a bat is not cause for alarm, especially if both you and the bat are outdoors, awake, and behaving normally.
So why are bats most associated with human cases of rabies? One reason is that people often only notice bats when something is wrong. A grounded, lost, or injured bat is much more likely to be noticed than one flying overhead. Another challenge is the difficulty in diagnosing a rabid bat by its behavior. While some rabid bats show the most recognizable aggression associated with rabies, sick bats also often show symptoms of “dumb” rabies, appearing weak and unusually tame. As a result, people may be more willing to approach or handle them.
Unlike bites from larger animals, bat bites and scratches can be small and may go unnoticed or appear insignificant. Unrecognized or disregarded exposure means a person may be less likely to seek medical treatment. For these same reasons, it is also recommended that in addition to known direct contact with a bat, any potential contact — such as a finding a bat in a room with someone sleeping, unattended children, or anyone who could not confidently rule out exposure — should be taken seriously and discussed with your medical health care provider.
Taking possible rabies exposure seriously is important because without treatment, it is deadly. But a clear understanding of how rarely it spreads to people, and what a small proportion of bats are potential spreaders can reduce unnecessary fear of bats and help people make calm decisions that keep them safe.
Because mice are so small if it did get rabies the normal way one does, from a bite, it would have succumbed to the bite wounds already? At least that's what I saw when I was reading up on the close fear of ”I clear mice traps” and suddenly worried.
If you don't mess with them, they are highly unlikely to mess with you...
A rabid animal in it's contagious state has basically no functioning brain left. It will attack for no reason, unprovoked and may even go out of it's way to do so.
Until they get into your house and are so scared they fly into your hair
Yeah, you can't just build a structure. It likely has to be approved by the board, so anything you build without approval is subject to be removed.
This is the whole premise of the post, though. You build it without approval. The bats move in. The HOA demands removal of unapproved structure. Bats are federally protected so they can't.
Can’t the HOA still fine you every day that you don’t comply? The fact that you aren’t allowed to remove it due to federal law, doesn’t necessarily invalidate your contract with the HOA. Sounds like a recipe for needing lawyers and court dates
I would guess there's some boilerplate legalese in the contract saying they can't force you to do anything illegal, like a saving clause or severability clause. 🤷🏼♂️
Doubt it. There's a clause in mine that says basically the officers of the organization are indemnified except in cases of gross neglect or intentional wrongdoing.
You accept the covenants of the HOA when you move in, and structures like this take time to build and also to be inhabited. Any HOA that is actually going to enforce against unapproved structures will serve you notice to remove long before the first bat bat moves in.
That makes me think it's probably going to be on you to pay some hefty fines if you decide to ignore the removal order. As to what eventually happens? Idk IANAL, but it wouldn't surprise me if you had to make continued renovations to bring said bat roost into the character and style of the neighborhood or something else wacky.
You can't remove it, but can they still give you a $1000/ day fine?
This makes the HOA order illegal. The resident can then countersue for any lawyer fees etc.
Honestly I am sort-of grateful for the idiot land developer who is trying to build an apartment complex next to my small HOA. A large portion of the land is next to a stream and wildlife preserve and can't be legally developed. The idiot keeps trying to push through exceptions etc. It's kept the HOA fully distracted for the past decade. The developer almost got it through once by bribing the city council. The courts shut it down before construction could begin. All of the city council lost their seats in the next election because of it and other sketchy activities.
As if HOA wouldn't just destriy or burn it when you ain't looking and then pin the crime onto you.
Can't trust them not to break the law in order to make profit. Besides, who's going to stop them? The other HOA neighborhood members who will refuse to help you in fear of retaliatory behavior?
If one builds a bat roost, one might like to also observe and record said bats' comings and goings. If said recording happened to capture someone vandalizing or destroying the roost, well...
Put up a bunch of cameras first, then you can catch them committing the crime
Corona 2 incoming
