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Flippanarchycross-posted from: https://quokk.au/c/mop/p/1304093/mark-the-vans
What happened to abolishing ICE? Dems win then immediately back off thier promises? Shocking...
Most Democrats didn't promise anything. This is the best the average dem campaigned on. There were plenty better that did in fact say and still say they want to abolish ice though.
Brunch Brunch Brunch! A side of fascism and brunch!
In the immortal words of the late Patrick Stewart: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XkY88kvkdvU
Im just here to wait for the libs I've tagged as blue maga to pop into this post
Abolish ICE and repeal the Patriot Act you fucking pussies.
The rules are there to facilitate the violence, but conservatives just couldn't bring themselves to stay in their lane.
Now Democrats will be forced to increase funding for ICE to pay for all the new signage on the kidnap-mobiles.
(sigh) I’m so fuckin used to living under authoritarianism that it took me a second to understand what the problem was in this meme
We really need to burn it all to the ground
me: cars are making the landsape unlivable
my father: electrify! the! cars!
To be fair, that WOULD help a lot.
Of course, expanding (and electrifying) mass transit as well as making cities walkable would help a LOT more, but it's still not like zero emission cars isn't MUCH better than the toxic status quo 🤷🏻
to be fair, if the ICE agents took their masks off and wore body cameras, that would help a lot. of course, better training for ICE agents would help a lot more, but it's not like maskless agents isn't much better than the status quo 🤷♀️
Maskless, body cam footage always openly available, and whoever is interested can review what's going on against accepted standards. Badge number in 3" tall high contrast reflective numbers front and back of the torso and on the outside of every sleeve and pant leg.
I've got no problem with proper arrests of actual illegals who get proper treatment and due process.
I've got huge problems with black ops, zero accountability, "just trust me bro - it's better this way" behavior.
Some people are going to get shot and/or killed by accident, that's a damn serious accident and if you've had an accident like that your employer should be paying full restitution to the surviving family and/or country of origin and they should be deciding if they want to take the risk that that particular field agent might have another "accident" some day before they continue placing them in the field again.
ve got no problem with proper arrests of actual illegals who get proper treatment and due process.
Do you know where you're posting right now?
The training thing is a trap. They really like it when people demand better training, because they're going to hire some white nationalist buddy of whatever fascist currently runs the organization to talk to them for a few days about how to more effectively hide evidence of the crimes they're committing, and say "yup, we did more training!"
We need audited training, enforced standards, and accountability
The only thing we need for it is abolition. ICE doesn't need to nor should exist.
It's the Hydra trap, abolish ICE and something else as bad or worse will slither forth to take its place.
Obviously we're going to need a bigger budget for that training too!
Just use the No Child Left Behind model: perform poorly on the standard test? No more funding for you!
better training for ICE agents
Like we haven't just gone through a decade of this bullshit delaying tactic for letting cops kill people
Ah yes better training is what the SS needs, of course. liberals....
no
electrified cars would help in the same way a band aid helps a bullet wound.
sure I guess its theoretically better than nothing, but it won't stop you dying and it gets in the way of any real solution a competent person would provide.
That's just not true.
You don't seem to have any idea how much of the world's harmful emissions come from cars and the refining of fossil fuel for cars.
Over 50,000 people in the US alone die from auto emissions every year, compared to 34k from auto accidents.
To say that getting rid of those emissions "won't stop you from dying" just because other things would help even more is some tunnel vision nonsense.
getting rid of those emissions
Building a whole bunch of new vehicles with heavy frames, airbags, batteries, wearing their tires faster is not "getting rid of those emissions" it's funneling money away from established players into other pockets.
Unless/until we're generating our electricity from clean sources, you're actually melting more polar ice cap with every EV made and used as compared with just maintaining the fleet that's already on the road.
The "fast fashion" oh, your car is so old you just need to buy a new one model creates more emissions than an EV saves in its first 200k miles of driving when you account for the actual coal, gas and other fossil fuels being used to produce electricity. Consider: if the EVs weren't out there demanding their share of electricity (and upgrades to the distribution network which themselves drive more emissions for installation and maintenance) - all that electricity demanded by EVs could translate into that much less coal and natural gas being burned by simply switching off the dirty power plants.
auto emissions aren't just fuel reaction byproducts. you know when your tires and brakes wear down? where do you think that mass goes? its a very wasteful form of transit, and moving tons of steel and lithium for every 1-3 hundred pounds of person is insane. bare bones ICE augmented bikes would be a greener solution than electric cars. if we switched all our infrastructure to electric cars, wed need more sodium and lithium than exists on earth and a nuclear power plant for every truck stop, complete with waste-heat outlets and and radioactive waste disposal.
electric trains running overhead wire from green or glowy energy sources and ebikes/scooters or walking to cover last mile is of course ideal, the economy of scale and efficiency of form from trains and barges and reducing excess mass moved from using escooters and ebikes for last mile trips may actually keep industrial society viable.
sorry, but under capitalism you can't use stopgap measures. natural gas was a harm reduction measure, now natural gas profits and lobbies are a barrier to green energy and electrification.
electric trains
Where they make sense, sure. Where I live, public transit (buses, trains, etc.) turn what is a 20 minute private car trip into a 1-2 hour ordeal. Make that a round trip and you're looking at over 2 hours your life wasted in transit per trip - even at a single trip per day (and most people make more than one), that's 12% of your waking hours lost to "more efficient transit solutions." If you live to 85, your electric trains solution puts 10 of those years into extra transit time.
If those 10 years were spent socializing in parks, libraries, museums, clubs, whatever - that's not a bad use of a life, 10 extra years spent on the subway? No thanks.
Even with the added transit time on public transit, it is SIGNIFICANTLY easier and more pleasant than driving since your attention isn’t chained to making sure you don’t kill someone. If you spend a couple of hours farting around on the internet per day you can do that while commuting.
If you have a long distance to commute then you’re probably not the only one, and your city needs more commuter buses (fewer stops between destinations).
Also parking lots, roads, storage for cars. Etc.
Even more environmental damage.
That's last mile for humans. What about last mile for freight?
Last mile for freight is improving IMO. A lot of our delivery vans have gone electric (moving their pollution further from our home) and they run more efficient routes. Compared with the 1980s model of "driving to the mall" and getting our stuff there, having it delivered to the door feels more environmentally friendly, particularly when you look at a shopping mall parking lot. The cardboard packaging is more visible to the consumer these days, but I think that's pretty much a wash for all the miles driven "shopping" in the past.
the noise reduction alone is worth electrifying. it's going to take decades to de-carify society just like it took decades to ruin it.
I live on a busy street, so I can say from unpleasant experience: EVs are just as noisy.
Yeah once they are up to speed its the same volume.
Pokemon go to the vans
