The Motorola Signoture phone has finally released... And it's utterly expensive with a price pf $1600. Jeez. Only the rich can get privacy, I guess. Might as well buy the outdated Pixel 10

What I want to know is whether all anti-privacy money is subsidizing other brands' phones.

Is this the real price of a good phone hardware if the end user's data isn't the product being sold?

Holy shirt sauce that's more than twice a pixel

I was hoping for something cheaper, but with the price of everything these days I can't say I'm surprised. I'll probably start saving up while I wait for more news.

I don't even know that we can take it for granted that the phone will work with all carriers in the US. We've got some basic specs and that's literally it so far.

What is "outdated" in phones these days?

I've been rocking a used Pixel 8 Pro that I picked up for $200. I put Graphene on it right away. I don't feel like I'm missing anything. Graphene is so stripped down and minimalistic that I don't feel like a newer phone would in any way enhance my experience. I don't install anything that touches google, microsoft, or a techbro ai company, so a special ai processor doesn't mean anything to me.

Performance is good. Battery life is great.

Motorola is on the official UN company list that supports genocide and aiding the IDF with killing / displacing indigenous Palestinians and Lebanese civilians.

Lenovo's Motorola Mobility LLC makes the Signature 27. Motorola Solutions, Inc. and subsidiaries have been separate since 2011.

Can you share the link, please.

Here you go

Scroll down to those two sections

Thanks :)

How does buying the Sig27 or not, effect Motorolas use in Israel?

if you feel comfortable giving your hard earned money to a company that is blacklisted by the United Nations for participation of a genocide of kids,— yes israel is literally killing children and Motorola is actively participating in that.

Then nothing i say as an answer to your question will matter.

Note: you can see the UN listed two motorolla entities, one is an israel subsidiary that was created to wash the corporate name, but then further investigation clearly established that the mother corporation is still supplying IDF with technology to continue performing terrorist state activity.

Two legal entities doesn't mean they're washing their corporate name, both are still called Motorola. It's completely normal to have subsidiaries for countries you have employees or do a lot of business in, it greatly simplifies accounting. It's even normal to have subsidiaries for your different business activities. I suspect Motorola is actually quite proud of their work in Israel, it's an American company after all.

Buying a phone from Motorola Mobility, a completely unrelated company owned by the Chinese spyware company Lenovo, gives money to neither of those companies.

Instead, you'd want to avoid using telecoms that use Motorola tech. In North America that includes Verizon, AT&T, Bell, Rogers and Telus, possibly others. Europe has too many to even find.

Yes I understand all of that. I also understand that Motorola is a large conglomerate with several separate corporate divisions that are largely unrelated, so the buisness of one division has no effect on another.

But if you feel comfortable with mearly performic symbols of ineffective action, nothing I can say will matter to you.

As i said earlier nothing i would say will matter to you if you think boycotting a UN blacklisted corporate is debatable

But you aren't boycotting Motorola Solutions.
You're boycotting Motorola Mobility.

They're two seperate and unrelated companies.

And why exactly should I care?

As if your phone or whatever else hardware (And especially software) you own or use is "clean".

Because BDS works?

Wow, what an intelligent take. Impressive. Go change the worl, boycott a thing you don't really need and feel superior. As if I'd care 😁

Average .zip / zio user

no one is forcing you to care.

it just when you scream that you don’t care about children being bombed to pieces in schools and hospitals, this shows who you really are on a human level.

Yeah, that's more than my monthly income. Shit, a used recent pixel is pushing it for me, 1600 is a no go

Maybe the point is precisely to price out regular people. Nice try, Motorola, but ima stick to my pixel to sell drugs.

"see? privacy doesnt sell!"

Hopefully they eventually launch something that is actually affordable. Until then I guess I will have to stick to used Pixels.

It also has a glued in battery, for all I know.

This device is not longevity-oriented

"signiture" "signoture" the poor motorola signature 27 already has an identity crisis, flagships are a daft choice anyway.

A flagship with android? No thanks. Graphene is muuuch bettet than any other android, but it's still android.

Gimme a Linux flagship. Or anything else beyond crapple or google.

But Linux is far from secure. Although Graphene OS is also not very secure. We need an operating system written in Rust and with micro kernel I guess

Calling the safest OS in the world 'not very safe' is sure a take.

It may well be the most secure, but it's not enough. Palantir is watching people from all over the world

Do you have evidence that Palantir has cracked GrapheneOS?

My Pixel 6 with Graphene OS was acting very weird like overheating out of nowhere, disconnecting vpn over and over. I stopped using it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evidence

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