Recently, reports emerged that LG TVs are sniffing around your local network, and even listening to your local environment, even when the TV is purportedly “off.” Some of those voice commands were then stored in plain text and uploaded to the internet. LG’s response? To deny everything.
For decades now we’ve documented how while “smart” TV makers are obsessed with making money off of in-home surveillance (which is now more profitable than the actual TV), they do an abysmal job protecting the data they collect. They also routinely don’t respect consumer choice when users say they don’t want to participate in the full scope of hyper-commercialized mass surveillance.
That latter point is central to a new study out of Northeastern that conducted 5,943 experiments across twelve commercial “smart” TV devices. The researchers found that most smart TVs utilize automatic content recognition (ACR), a technology that captures audio or video snapshots of viewed content and then monetizes that data to help build personalized profiles of viewers.
TV makers insist that users are supposed to be able to opt out, but the choice simply doesn’t work across a large segment of TVs. Companies like Vizio simply ignored the consumer requests entirely more often than not:
“We find that the advertised ACR opt-out fully suppresses ACR-attributable traffic on only four operating systems; on Samsung Tizen traffic consistent with ACR activity persists in more
than 60% of evaluated scenarios, and on Vizio SmartCast a content correlated endpoint hosted on Amazon Kinesis continues to receive traffic in 100% of opted-out scenarios.”
These companies have been awful for a long while now, and U.S. regulation of the sector has varied between soggy and inconsistent. Many smart TV manufacturers fail to encrypt sensitive data, or remove features if you refuse to have your daily viewing habits measured and monetized (by say, disconnecting your TV from the internet).
Vizio was fined $2.2 million by the FTC back in 2017 for failing to tell customers that their televisions were spying on them. The company also wound up facing a $17 million lawsuit that wound up giving consumers somewhere between $13 and $31 (lawyers in the case saw $5.6 million in fees).
The researchers say since they can’t see the precise scope of what’s being collected due to encryption, they’re unsure whether Vizio is technically violating its FTC agreement (not that we have a current FTC that would care if they were):
“The opt-out setting has no observable effect on traffic sent to this endpoint; however, we cannot inspect the payload due to encryption so we cannot confirm whether this violates the FTC settlement.”
Results of whether opting out of ACR tracking actually stopped ACR tracking were all over the map. Roku, for example, ignores opt-out requests when users are watching Roku’s own channels. None of the smart TV vendors track Netflix viewing for fear of violating agreements with the streaming giant. Samsung’s opt out function was more likely to actually work when a user was watching antenna broadcasts.
On two Smart TV platforms, personal viewing data collected by ACR remains unencrypted, despite years of bad press and scandal on the subject. Many appear to be violating the law, but because U.S. regulatory oversight has been gutted, they see no meaningful accountability. That includes smart TV OS’ like VIDAA, which is most prominently found on Hisense and Toshiba smart TVs:
“VIDAA OS sends ACR data to servers run by Unruly over MQTT without encryption, so anyone on the network path between the TV and those servers can read it. Each message carries a Client ID, a permanent identifier for the TV that can’t be reset, along with the time zone, the app name, the input (antenna, HDMI), the antenna channel and an audio fingerprint.
The app name alone can be revealing. We saw ACR on apps such as VIDAA Kids, which raises concerns under the U.S. children’s privacy law (COPPA), and Christianity and Money. VIDAA’s own HOME OS app sent show and film titles in place of the app name.”
Keep in mind these researchers just focused on ACR — or video, image, or audio snippets taken to track your viewing and build a profile on you. There are numerous other ways smart TVs can track you — and numerous other avenues via which your traffic is being surveilled by everybody along the chain, including your telecom provider.
This persists because companies do not fear U.S. regulators, because U.S. regulators have been largely lobotomized via corruption. The United States also remains too corrupt to base even a baseline privacy law for the internet era or regulate the data brokers that further monetize much of this data. Still the researchers were nice enough to provide regulators a path, should they someday choose to do their jobs.
this is similar to the reason why you shouldn't enable Do Not Track in your browser: it's simply ignored and it becomes another datapoint to fingerprint you.
Used a Vizio television in the past. The OS is somehow worse then Samsung.
Honestly I thought that brand died out 15 years ago.
Update: They literally just sell televisions and speakers. And write the firmware for them. What Walmart saw in them that warrented slurping them up is beyond me.
anyone who hasn't used a vizio TV won't even understand exactly how right you are. the vizio OS is borderline unusable, even when nothing is "wrong" with it. truly the dumbest "smart" TV brand to have ever been made. and they can't even blame it on the OS being vibe coded, because their TVs have been shite long before chatgpt came around.
Yeah it's the worst piece of software I have ever used in my life.
Which is incredible because I occasionally program for ancient Qualcomm BREW mobile phones!
ah, so you are an archeologist. moth has always admired those who study The Old Ways (。•̀ᴗ-)✧
It's both rewarding and ass at the same time.
still, as a maintainer of the old magicks, moth must thank you for your service.
anyone who didn't assume they all do this was an idiot.
You are ascribing a level of technical knowledge to the general public that is unfare to assume and in doing so absolving these companies of this evil shit.
People like you piss me off so much.
This is literally just victim blaming. Most people are not aware how bad this shit is, and they don't have the technical knowledge to understand the extent and significance.
Your attitude of "people should know better" is literally the exact same argument people use to blame victims of other abuse.
Any new TV I get at this point is going to be put into its own network that gets access to nothing and that’s on top of simply never connecting it to WiFi. I know it can probably still sniff out SSIDs, but it can’t send them anywhere if it has never been connected to my WiFi.
In a just world this would amount to fines in the trillions
in a just world there would be no fines. everything anyone involved owns would be taken from them, nobody would inherit, and they would be returned a few feet of rope. then people who wanted could piss on them. surviving family would be made to look at the piss-bloated corpse and asked if they want to join it.
Welcome to capitalism
you have to be in the right countries for that to happen -- but then again, the countries that take action keep sentencing them to death :p
Don't forget the prison sentences for the actual people responsible for the deception, not the rank and file.
if you wrote the code you're guilty.
the nice thing about this is you can just not connect your TV to the internet. moth uses a Dell workstation pulled from the garbage bin of a corporation as a media PC. it's far more powerful than it needs to be in order to stream media, and cost nothing because it was basically stolen (is taking things from a garbage bin legally theft?).
check you local thrift stores for old "garbage" PCs that you can bring back to life with Linux. this is far better for your privacy than using a "smart" TV.
As somebody who fell for a clearance Vizio TV, the option to "just not connect your TV to the internet" is not available for my Vizio.
The TV will randomly power itself on asking for an internet connection. It will interrupt other connected devices to start internet setup. It will refuse any HDMI-CEC controls until you retrieve the Vizio remote to cancel the setup process.
AVOID VIZIO. full stop.
Or you could engage with the fact this is insidious shit and not just smugly assert how the simple plebs are just not enlightened enough of alternatives.
Like sure technically you are correct but none of what you said changes how fucked up and predatory this shit is. Ever since I first saw ypu post I have seen nothing but smug individualism from you and it makes me sick.
Ever since I first saw ypu post I have seen nothing but smug individualism from you and it makes me sick.
moth supposes that you enjoy twisting words to invent some ill intent you can lash out at. this seems like a personal problem you will have to deal with, and has nothing to do with moth. best of luck with becoming a better person, moth is rooting for you.
You're a reactionary piece of shit that mocks trans people. You are fucking scum.
https://hexbear.net/post/9727683/7514780
moth hopes you have a good day, and that your pillow is always cold. always remember that you are loved and important, even when being unkind.
Didn't LG also just get done for having a monitor driver auto install and show ads?
I bet it also sends the telemetry home too. (Or will do)
moth supposes that all TV brands do this, and one must take defensive measures if one wants to protect their privacy. until people decide to actually do something about it, this is the world we live in. most people care little for these things, if they think of them at all.
The smart remote control is awkward
Ruko does everything wrong, except for their remote.
Seriously: Identical IR blaster codes! Genuinely fantastic decision.
Their study https://watchingthewatchers.github.io/watchingthewatchers/paper.html
