We can not like each other okay. But we gotta live with each other. Figure it out. Or not. No big deal here.

they are going to hold trump to account… and by that i mean they are going to have never ending hearings as a giant circus, so they can do mostly the same things the republicans do with everyone distracted. but trump will never see prison time, neither will any of his people. ultimately they answer to the same people.

and then the next election they will claim it’s not the time for change, because the republican canidate would be the worse person ever, so they need to field more centrist democrats. and all the rightward slide we have suffered through will be solidified under their rule. just like last time

Remember Operation Paperclip? America imported Nazi scientists post World War II after we made a big show of punishing them in the Nuremberg tribunals, but that's all it was, a show.

Actually thinking even more recently, Merrick Garland endlessly delayed trying Trump for his endless crimes during Biden's time in office, then the Supreme Court ruled that the president essentially has unlimited power, so long as it's a vaguely defined "official act" (and as long as it's a Republican president).

"It's a big club, and you ain't in it." - George Carlin

Problem is they know they'll face no consequences for not doing that. Like the worst that'll happen is conservatives go back into power in 2028 with maybe a Dem president. Libs can go back to just ranking in donation money and telling everyone that the 2030 election is the most important one of our lifetimes or the 2032 one. What a few peaceful protests that last a weekend at most every few months will change their minds?

I promise you that—from the perspective of what the Democrats claim to stand for—they’re going to waste it, because they don’t actually stand for what they claim to.

Carville had famously said of Democratic Socialists of America (DSA), "I wish they'd take the word Democrat out of their name. I have no idea why the democratic socialists — if you hate the Democratic Party so much, well, then don't use our godd*mn. Go think of your own name.”

Wow, this guy thinks the word "democratic" is some kind of trademark invented by his party. How inward-looking can you get?

Carville can get fucked. He hasn't been relevant in like three decades.

Because liberals are right wing

and liberalism is a form of capitalism!

And they always will. The left has always been and will always be a greater threat to them than the Republican Party, because we’re a threat to capitalism.

Unfortunately, it's the only "left" we have. The true left needs to form their own tea party and start electing candidates, hold Democrat policy hostage, and using primaries to out the resistors. There does not seem to be the will or unity to do this.

You can't really hold the Democrats hostage because they're fully willing to lose in order to stop leftist insurgents. While Democrats can bash their left flank over the head with "blue no matter who!" the DSA-types can't do the same to centrists.

It's important for them to try, and demonstrate it can't be done, but I don't hold out hope for that as an effective strategy.

Constant censorship in this community. You're getting only approved opinions.

I go to other communities when I want people to scream at me.

No, you're describing .world. This is the truth.

they justifyably hate anyone that wants to take our money from us and waste it on an inefficient system

No, they agree with the right and the corporate system.

What do you mean?

the US government has not remotely shown that they can be competent at handling large amounts of money when not legally required to (like Amtrak and USPS).

The purpose of a system is what it does. The US government doesn’t serve us. It serves the wealthy, and it does it fairly competently.

Those hung up on binary opposition might think that...

One party will keep going towards the cliff, the other will run even faster towards the cliff.

Its really fucked up that I'm completely unable to tell if this is a joke or not

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