Well what if I ***French*** kissed you right here and now?
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TotallynotJessica
196Also, fuck France; not for being cowardly or anything else the British roast them for, but for being ruthless imperialists
All I read is she wants an omlet
If you leave a French flag out to get bleached by the sun and the rain long enough, does it turn into a Trans flag? Or are we going to be picky about its orientation?
If you leave out for even longer it turns back into a French flag! 🏳️
(I couldn't resist when the joke was set up so perfectly)
You know... The French Revolution of 1789 (!) decriminalized homosexuality in all of its terrorities, including its colonies. While the UK kept forcing its homophobic laws on its colonies and did not decriminalized homosexuality until 1992/1994. Meanwhile many states of the US still have sodomy laws on its books. Mock the French, but maybe not for that one.
Tho French did go around randomly adding "it's illegal to be gay now" on other countries' constitutions by late 1800s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBTQ_rights_in_Tunisia#After_1913
So you're saying France is its own pride flag.
Isn't every national flag a pride flag of you're nationalist enough?
And also hate flag depending on the country if you're nationalist enough
I mean being better than the states is not a high bar. I say this as an american.
Them being less depraved than the US and UK does not make them good.
French highschoolers are currently rioting over a shit school system. The French are hella based.
Name a country that hasn’t been ruthless and selfish. Please don’t say China, it’s too early in the morning for propaganda.
I'm confused. Why not say China? Are they not ruthless and selfish?
Bots Propaganda
Ah, got it. Ducking bots.
Fuck all nation states, including France.
I agree. Including China?
Did I stutter?
Last I checked, China is a in fact a nation state (and one that has historically thrown its weight around at that)
On the one hand, ruthless imperialism. On the other hand, beheading aristocrats.
Allons enfants….
On the other other hand 2nd gayest flag, after the US flag of course.
Per usual, fuck the nation, not it's people.
... de la patrie, le jour de gloire est arrivé!
And the best food, hmm
Not willing to go quite that far, but one thing I’ll gladly concede is that they are willing to put in the work.
Couldn't find the french coffee one so here's another for the enjoyment of all (better than nothing, or so I hope):
Impressive and a bit spooky how France absolutely destroys queers by having the gayest flag of all
damn wish i were queer (pretty) like that🥺
Why do you feel like they are ruthless imperialists?
When they wanted Algeria to be part of France mainland and wouldn't take no for an answer. Their involvement in the Rawanda genocide. Their schenanigance in western Africa. Etc.
Are they still doing that or is that a nation that has died and is succeeded by macron's french of today?
I don't think the sixth French republic has arrived as of yet.
The things you are listing are things of the past and french interests and ambitions have shifted a lot in the last twenty years. Change is coming constantly and we must look forward and judge them based on who they are today, what evils they are committing today, whom they leave unpunished and what are they reasonably doing to right the wrongs of the past.
Oh man, that's a great excuse! I'll use it when the police eventually catch up to me. I'm a different person now, no longer the one who stole from the orphanage and burned it and everyone in it to the ground!
Listen, if you don't own up to your past mistakes and analyse why you did them I promise you you will make those mistakes again. It's less about punishing the mistakes and more about learning from them and becoming better by taking the right lessons from them. And the first step is to accept that you were the one to make them.
Be like Germany and Italy, not Japan.
Difference is that you are very much a different person and the person that did the crime is either out of power, imprisoned or dead. Companies and countries aren't people.
That's the great thing about consequences. They will happen regardless of what arguments you throw at it. Only two choices, one could be wise about it, or you could be foolish.
Vietnam and Saharan Africa would like a word
As far as I know french troops aren't active there at the time. At least not in an unwelcome fashion.
French troops were just recently thrown out of a lot of Saharan Africa, I’d say within the past 5 years. That has left a power vacuum filled by a mix of Islamic terrorism and Wagner mercenaries from Russia. In my opinion, the French were thrown out at least in part due to their refusal to come to full terms with their colonial past.
That said, I live in a glass house. I live in the US, the epicenter of attempting to ignore your colonial past. Shit, it’s more like a colonial present.
Yes, for they were asked to buy the Russian backed governments who got to power by coups.
Not particularly imperialist to just get up and leave.
Fighting against extreme Dschihadist forces could also be considered good/fine.
It's imperialist to be there in the first place. The Russians were so successful because everybody hated the French that much
Being asked to provide security isn't necessarily imperialist in my mind, e.g. Blue Helmets come to mind. Doesn't mean you should give anyone a free pass, but Africa is particularly vulnerable to exploitation through its natural wealth and colonial past hence present poverty.
The whole "Scramble for Africa" bit
Not particularly current. Or do you mean the current scramble for Africa?
something that ended in the 70s is pretty current imo
And why are we even consenting to this user inserting an arbitrary recency rule? The nation states of today stand atop the atrocities of their past. I don't give my country a pass on indigenous genocide or chattel slavery just because they happened before I was born. Quite the opposite, they're fundamental to the nation state that encloses me today. Nationalism is fucking gross, individuals are distinct from the states that lay claim to them and shouldn't be confusing their own honor for that of the state, a trap I feel this user has fallen into.
That's halve a century ago. No person in any role back then still exists in a similar role. They are retirees at best.
Do you think geopolitical situations get resolved in half a decade or something?
Do you believe in the sins of the father? Do you believe in changing your behavior and being treated by your current self? Do borders of the past define your lawful territory and justify wars and claims?
It's not a blame game. The wealth stolen by the father remains with his children unless they do something to redistribute it. The British, French, and Americans could all massively improve the lives of those they formerly oppressed, including in ways that help them. Increase the opportunities and economic prosperity by limiting capitalist exploitation and unfair resource extraction. Eliminate diseases with well funded vaccination campaigns, reducing the risk of those diseases making it back to your country. Return stolen cultural artifacts, even if it destroys your own museums. Give straight up reparations for all the trouble caused, with no expectation of any repayment. When that happens, then you can rest easy.
They probably have a few Ruth’s.
Then they wouldn't be ruthless. Also I consider this a somewhat serious accusation. I only recall them being called that over the Mali/Sahel situation which is... Well the africa Corps calling them a neocolonialist bunch while extracting the wealth of Mali and committing enough massacres that al quaeda is hailed as their savors and are notable for upholding the rule of law better does not bode well. But that's probably not the situation Jessica is thinking about and you cannot start with that accusatory tone. Also the context was lost upon me as well when I first heard about that, so it would be a fair assumption, too.
