Proton is garbage that accepts blacklists at face value, despite Israel.

Im lost here, what happened?

Some people on Lemmy are retarded. They think saying things without justifying it means that people should care.

Does Proton give its users data and internet history to Israel? GhostVPN for example was founded by Mossad Unit 8200 for spy and report all anti-zionist users to israel. Is Proton the same?!

What I can tell you is that there are several dozen blacklists, and proton takes them at face value, with no appeal option, even though Israel puts their critics on there.

thank god we can still scan our face for lemmy

Meanwhile their CEO loves republicans and supports fascist influencers through money and by meeting up with them for videos.

Fuck Proton.

Why? They did not mention the reason. What do these companies do with our face scans?

I would post the super Mario 64 face, but that would be minimizing it

Who cares, they shouldnt have it or need it

Do You Guys Not Have Phones?

Looks like Diablo guy was a prophet

If an app/website requires a face scan I won't use it

Why did all the American companies suddenly start asking for my ID?

To protect the children

But the president is a pedofile protector, it doesn't make any sense!

The president protects pedophiles because he is a pedophile himself

Exactly. He doesn't actually care about protecting pedos. He just cares about protecting himself.

To fight terrorists

Yes! To stop the terrorist children!

Every single one of those websites is not crucial to existence even remotely. Let’s all collectively show them they don’t matter anymore.

The problem is that most people don't care about digital privacy and wouldn't think twice when asked to scan their face to access an app or website.

It’s true. There’s a whole chunk of mainstream users that won’t think twice about it. I don’t blame them though. Most people aren’t educated on the negatives and our government and tech oligarchs aren’t about to teach them. I work in tech and am terminally online, so I’m acutely aware of this stuff.

"They already have all my data anyway"

Not only are they not necessary, they're actually harmful to existence. Admittedly I use YouTube somewhat through privacy front ends, but quitting all the others has been great for my health. Using nebula has also minimised my use of YouTube.

YouTube is the only one left for me as well and I’ve been considering Nebula myself. One thing I do try to avoid though is all of the rage bait stuff. I actively filter it out and focus only on videos that teach me things. So a lot of science, food, carpentry, and other crafty kind of channels and videos. Oh, and a lot of animal ones.

I love nebula for a lot of the topics you listed, highly recommend it!

Any free alternatives for YouTube?

Peertube is probably the closest. I don't really use either, but I've understood that peertube is a bit lacking in content.

As you're here on lemmy.ml, I doubt it, but if you happen to be a "cryptocurrency enthusiast", then odysee might also be an option, though I'm not sure hiw much of it is open-source.

If longform video is your thing, I would highly suggest Nebula. I've paid £27.30 for a years subscription. Creators say they get paid fairly and can make content without censorship. It has been exactly what I'm into.

odyssey (keep in mind, no 1-1 alternative for youtube exists, yet)

I had to scan my face to access the $20k of I-bonds I already had with the Treasury.

WTF

DON'T give out information of people who use your service to the police.

Even when presented with a Swiss Warrent signed by a Swiss judge, and failure to comply would mean Proton is breaking Swiss law?

Yah, no

lol one of my gmail accts tried to get me to face scan yesterday. some crazy shit man, email does not need my face.

I hate to say this but I am an Instagram user. They asked me to scan my face to "check if I'm a bot", and they banned me even after I scanned my face. And no, I didn't post my dick to a reel. This is bullshit.

Instagram banned me when i started using a VPN and i never looked back, delete your account

However: none of my friends contact me now that i dont use META

Yeah, it's hard to find a friend irl who happen to use pixelfed instead of Instagram

Why would you be so stupid to scan your face?

I am locked out of the interface otherwise. I know it's a stupid thing to use Instagram in the first place

Deleted Reddit after I got asked to do this to Confirm my age.

I didn’t need ro access any 18+ content on that platform but for me this was the alarm bell that made me actually delete my account.

The problem is that Reddit NSFW is an extremely broad category that doesn't only include porn. So many posts and memes are tagged with it. Realizing that I'm now seeing a censored, inauthentic version of Reddit made me delete the app.

The whole brutal death metal community is NSFW because if the album covers, and I don't wanna flash my face to that platform just for the music I enjoy listening

My face gets scanned by city run cameras everytime i go to the super market, and then the supermarket scans my face as well, not to mention smart passports with face scanning or whatever were introduced pre 2010. It's too late

This is a sunk cost fallacy, it’s not too late

I mean...they already have thousands of images and video on us. Not saying we should give it to them willingly but yeah we have already been cooked. If they wanted to generate a video of you doing illegal things they could and youd be jailed in an instant.

Thats why on the surface its good to pretend to support the maga regime so youre not on their radar. Then dismantle it from underneath. Thats how I look at it.

Does that make the other face scanning more acceptable somehow?

Plus, you can at least wear any kind of face and/or head covering in those situations.

You’re helping the city cameras recognise your face by providing regular close-ups of how you look each day via your phone

To use Microsoft Excel 2028, please enter your login information and submit to a routine penis inspection.

I never considered buying a dildo until now....

2FA is really getting out of hand huh

I disagree; my penis is firmly in hand.

What do you mean I need two falluses to authenticate?

The penis is actually more unique than the face

What?

Aw man I just had to do penis inspection for slack

aks them to share the data with microslop, so you don't have to do it again.

Tell them they can find it in the latest Discord data breach.

Sadly if you want to travel these days face scans are unavoidable. I still avoid them for commercial services, but yeah. Fly to europe or any major US city and you are going to be made to submit to a face scan to get through security.

The last time I went through TSA (earlier this year), I no longer saw the signs saying you could opt-out, but I was still able to opt out.

The TSA agent got annoyed at me for not leading with that, though. Like... buddy... We exchanged greetings, and then I said no thank you to the face scan. It's not my fault that you jumped the gun. I'm trying to not be rude about another unnecessary invasion of privacy.

Some of them they don't even ask anymore. When you enter the US at certain ports of entry now they scan everyone as you walk up and they won't even ask to see your passport because they know who you are and will just wave you through. Because that's not fucking creepy at all.

I just say "no facial" which usually gets a smirk.

Yes, but at the very LEAST, it's being done by a government controlled entity that's subject to data security auditing and some sort of regulated process for handling that data.

These social media services are going to hold on to those scans, sell them for advertising data, and store them on dubiously secured servers.

I would posit that the government is even worse for handling this data. See recent FBI hack and not as recent OPM hack.

For all its problems, a democratically elected government will always be better than some rich guy who wants to rip you off and make as much money as possible.

Oh for sure I just wouldn't want anyone having my face scan personally. I'd love to have a law passed that designated biometric data as personal property requiring a warrant or explicit consent to collect.

Tell me you're from the US without telling me you're from the US.

without telling me you’re from the US.

I... mentioned the US in my comment?

Yeah but do it again this time without telling me first.

My school was in lockdown again this week for a possible active shooter.

It's written basically as if the reader is also expected to be American.

Which annoyed me.

But I've had a rough week. Never mind me.

Well I can't speak to what its like in places I've never been.

Tell me you can't speak to places you have never been before without telling me.

Are Americans the only non-EU nationals that have to go through EES biometrics when traveling into EU/Schengen zone? I'm pretty sure that's not the case.

Now, I wouldn't be surprised if many Americans don't know we've been doing this to non-US nationals visiting the US for years via our US-VISIT program.

Americans are the only ones who fly to American cities without getting scanned... Because it's an internal flight.

I don't think there's a corner left in the industrialized world where you can go through passport control at the airport without getting your face scanned. At least as a foreigner.

DON'T support fascist politicians if you actually value the privacy of yourself and others.

Oh wait, that was them.

Unfortunately, while the left is generally better on this, the mass surveillance state has bipartisan support among the ruling class. My state legislature is all dems and yet you still have to consent to share your info with Google, Microsoft, and a number of AI startups in order to check your EBT balance or submit documents online.

Are you implying the democratic party is left? It's not.

Leftest but not leftist.

Ok, ok leftest that can get elected.

They didn’t though . . .

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