Commies killed trillions!

Soviet rule killed tens of millions.

You really need to lay off the Black Book of Communism, a book which even the authors themselves have recanted.

Soviet rule killed tens of millions. And was not democratic.

Mfw I still belive "Black Book of Communism" numbers.

Are you saying Gorbachev should not have pursued glasnost or perestroika?

Yes. I think the mass death, destitution and loss of QoL caused by shock doctrine - which would not have occured without Gorbachev - was actually a bad thing. I think it's bad when we do something that creates a bunch of child prostitutes, but I suppose you're allowed to disagree on that one.

That the Berlin Wall should not have come down?

I wonder why the socialists in charge in East Germany felt like they might need to have some control over who enters crosses the border from a country full of nazis who, very recently, killed all of their comrades.

Let's see: Nazis in Germany post-war were hired and brought directly back into:

• Official posts within the federal government and its ministerial cabinets
• into the upper judiciary and magistrates
• into local governance
• elevated and hired into immense wealth in industry and finance, or just kept where they already were in industry and finance
• hired into forming the Nazi core of the West German intelligence and secret police agencies (which would become today's German agencies) under the protective auspices of the OSS/CIA; who made extensive use of their networks of executioners and collaborators to prop up US-backed dictatorships and cartels and use as anti-communist stay-behind guerilla terrorists by the CIA and NATO (and brought into the CIA and FBI themselves, and into MI6 and Mossad)
• into German academia and universities as faculty and professors,
• to write western history books at the behest and with support of the US Army and OSS/CIA to sanitize their own crimes
• all those hired into NATO and into the EU
• into positions of power in West Germany (and all the NATO countries, helping in and helped by Gladio violently purging the communists) in such saturation and such impunity that it caused the formation of left wing militant groups that would assassinate and kidnap them.

but other than all of that though!

(And that's not even mentioning the Nazis and collaborators which made up the origins of Radio Free Europe/Liberty, the "Victims of Communism Foundation" which grew out of the fascist-filled anti-Soviet "Captive Nations Lobby" headed by OUN-B Nazis from Ukraine, and all the Operation Aerodynamic, Operation Paperclip, Operation Sunrise, Operation Beladonna, Operation Lynx, etc etc.)

Given that, I find the berlin wall to be pretty reasonable.

Soviet rule killed tens of millions. And was not democratic.

Don't take this the wrong way but you might be in the wrong instance. Also, colonialism.

That's just simply objectively not true, and US global economic sanctions have killed over 28 million people in the last fifty years alone, according to the Lancet.

Soviet people's democracy was radically democratic in a way that no bourgeoise parliamentary democracy ever has been or ever could be. A cursory understanding of the origins and history of US 'democracy' makes it clear how completely absurd the notion is. The government is a committee for managing the affairs of the rich, and it has been since the very first moment that the worthy businessmen of the colonies gathered in each others mansions to split the profits of their stolen lands and conspire on how to keep the working class under control. The people of the United States have never decided a single thing in all of history, and the people of its subjugated colonies and vassal states have never even had the luxury of participating in its sham electoral pageantry.

There has never been a more brutally authoritarian, bloodsoaked nation than the United States, and the USSR is not only not close, is not only the opposite, but its violent dismemberment and the carving up of its society and economy by the US worldwide secret police actually did kill tens of millions of people - 16.9 million excess deaths by 2019 in fact, again according to the Lancet.

::: spoiler Furthermore, here is a map of the 1991 referendum on whether to keep the USSR :::

As you can see, an overwhelming supermajority of the population were in favor of keeping the Union together. However, Boris Yeltsin's CIA-aided, illegal dissolution of the USSR was forced through with extreme violence, during which over two thousand counter-protesters were killed - including members of the state parliament, the democratically elected body that tried to stop him!

::: spoiler Here's the House of Soviets after Yeltsin ordered tanks to open fire on it after the parliament impeached him and tried to block his illegal dissolution of the Union. :::

But we were talking about Germany, so did you know? A higher proportion of judges and government ministers were ('former') members of the Nazi party in 1973, than the proportion of active Nazis in the Third Reich in 1943? Did you know the first head of NATO, Adolf Heusinger, was Hitler's Chief of Staff? Or how about that West Germany had a social club for Wehrmacht soldiers that had invaded Africa.

::: spoiler Here's their badge! :::

The Nazis didn't lose the war except where the USSR got to them, everywhere else they were seamlessly integrated back into the western financial capitalist empire from which they had spawned. Lebensraum was inspired by Manifest Destiny and paid for by British and US banks. And now, US state media gets to come along, point at the results of their brutal political intervention, of their pet reactionaries trying to erase the history of a previous brutal military intervention, and by implication blame it on the nation they destroyed.

Tens of millions? Where who and when?

The Holocaust is specifically commemorated to garner support for Israel. Any other genocide committed by Germany receives no attention nor does anything except the Jewish victims of the Holocaust.

The West has turned the Holocaust into a convenient event they can use to guilt trip people into supporting genocide. Holocaust museums even support the genocide in Palestine and call those who oppose it antisemitic. It has turned into the biggest farce.

For more info: Holocaust Education is for Israel