People who actually lived under communism
(midwest.social)
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SocialismThe floor was definitely higher, and the ceiling was definitely lower.
I sold my apartment in '22.
When I first asked my dad what life was like in the Soviet Union, he stared into the distance and responded that life wasn’t as worrisome because the basics were always taken care of. His opinion of life back then is decidedly more negative today after fifteen years on the salary of a tenured professor instead of stocking shelves at Aldi.
People really don't appreciate how people in the Soviet Union never had to worry that they're gonna lose their job and end up on the street or that they couldn't retire in dignity. Pretty much everybody in the west lives under the gun. No matter how good your job is, something could happen tomorrow and you end up unemployed, and then your whole life can be turned upside down.
That or when they say "communism" they really mean Russia in the 90s, i.e. capitalist shock therapy.
I heard someone in east Germany talk like this, like they lost a war.
I guess they didn't care that for every 200 citizens there was one Stazi secret police surveilling them.
You literally live in a surveillance state and it is has far more information on you. At least the Stasi was stopping legitimate terror attacks instead of letting them happen to justify imperialist conquest.
I guess they didn’t care that for every 200 citizens there was one Stazi secret police surveilling them.
Rookie numbers, they could've been far more efficient with flock cameras
Yes, it's very important that they are being surveilled by a capitalist regime. That makes all the difference.
but but but but alL ThoSe ViCtImS oF ComMuniSM!!!! - liberals
She could've had fifteen kids to work for the delivery apps but selfishly chose to get an education instead. That's fifteen for the Black Book right there /s
This tells me they still have free health care, unlike the uncivilized USA.
Seeing you guys clutch your pearls and cross the street to avoid communist ideas is never not funny
it's weird tbh. in a wtf happened to that kind of person kind of way.
Scary to think it could have been me
i narrowly escaped too, stared some at that abyss. it wouldn't be good.
I think it's valid to point out that the majority of people that lived in the Soviet Union regret its fall, and that a good reason for that is the much better social safety nets that existed under socialism.
The vast majority of old people miss their childhood.
Sure. But if you listen to what people who lived in the Soviet Union have to say, they very clearly reference the more robust system, the pride they had as workers, and the high valuation on science and humanity. These aren't mere nostalgic platitudes, they were lived reality for hundreds of millions of workers. That's a valid feeling.
You'll also find people talking about the food lines and the rationing, the envy of western abundance, the countless crackdowns on freedom and liberties, the famines, etc...
Lol you will not, because this is a cartoon list of Commie Shit from someone who has never looked into any of it. Cmon man "crackdown on freedom and liberties"? Really? You sound like an animatronic of JFK.
One party system, the cultural revolution, the gulags, the great purge. I don't understand how that's even disputable.
Slavery, COINTELPRO, Vietnam, the Kent State Massacre. I don't understand how that's even disputable.
I don't know man, maybe because you're just invoking the mere existence of events and then just...not saying anything? Genuinely, what is your point?
the cultural revolution
Lol. Can't even keep your anti communist talking points straight
Call me woke, but I think feeding the people is a good thing. The capitalist alternative is just letting hungry people starve. Many did envy western trinkets, but when said abundance was built on imperialism, rather than the workers in the west, it's not exactly a sustainable practice. Looking above, the woman is reminiscing on free apartments and education. The advanced social safety net under socialism increased freedom and liberties, creating far more individual autonomy. No idea what you mean by famine, the soviets eradicated famine and for those who lived in the socialist bloc, famine is out of living memory.
Most western european countries had better social safety than the soviet union, and have to this day. If the point is that it feels the trend is getting worse, then I agree.
You required permission to gather above a certain number and only allowed if it were approved by the party, no matter how well fed you were.There was also a constant surveillance state, and state police enforcement, which yes, we are getting there now too.
As for the famines, you had holodomor and "the great leap forward".
I will not defend capitalism, but these issues were definitely a staple of most communist regimes.
"As for famines, you had (the last two famines ever to occur in their historically famine-prone regions shortly after communist takeover)"
If the communists took over a capitalist-owned neighborhood where stabbings had been a common occurrence for as long as anyone could remember, and then one more stabbing happened and then never again, would you say the communists caused stabbings or in fact ended stabbings?
Really? Cause I know a couple who don't. They were born during a forty year period of martial law and anticommunist terror where even expressing the desire for people to have their needs met could get you thrown in a concentration camp or disappeared into the jungle.
I also know people that lived through my country's fascist period and seemingly "things were better back then"...
These anecdotal evidences mean little, you'll find someone with the opposing opinion or experience.
You're right, data is king. So what does the data say about the opinions people who lived through those times? Oh right, you've already dismissed that as "old people missing their childhoods".
Of course, if they were saying the opposite, that communism was awful and capitalism was better, you would have no trouble taking them at their word.
You will not get me defending capitalism. But wont white wash communist regimes neither.
Nobody's asking you to whitewash anything, you are being asked to stop participating in the debunked capitalist blackwashing of communism.
Oh its a .world zionazi liberal, carry on
bye fash
