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LinuxWith the 2026.08 ISO release, Artix switched back to Xorg. The switch had been decided soon after the 2026.04 release, due to the unusually high amount of XLibre-related bug reports on our forum and started with our weekly ISO images. This resulted in backlash from XLibre and a veteran Artix developer, Artist, was targeted and harassed, which led to his resignation.
Those XLibre developers must be lovely people...
I am shocked, I tell you.
Oh wow xlibre was shit from the very beginning who could have predicted this? Super unexpected!
Reading the linked forum thread is a gift, so many crazy peope at the same place that accuse each other being DEI hires and lefties, but this is a gem:
You guys have no idea what a mess Xorg's source code is. I only made very small changes, but I had to spent HOURS on verifying each small thing, because changing only one line of code will cause some entirely unrelated part of the code to completely break in ways that you cannot even imagine.
You cannot even properly debug a lot of the time because you don't know which parts of the code use which functions. The code is a giant function pointer soup that is passed around everywhere and nobody knows which parts of the code use which functions as a consequence.
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So exactly the reason why wayland happened.
You guys have no idea what a mess ${THING}'s source code is. I only made very small changes, but I had to spent HOURS on verifying each small thing, because changing only one line of code will cause some entirely unrelated part of the code to completely break in ways that you cannot even imagine.
You cannot even properly debug a lot of the time because you don't know which parts of the code use which functions. The code is a giant function pointer soup that is passed around everywhere and nobody knows which parts of the code use which functions as a consequence.
Here you go. Now you can just do export THING=literally_any_piece_of_software_on_earth_you_want_to_complain_about and just reuse the template xD
I was gonna say, this sounds like a lot of SaaS I’ve supported
I am pretty sure this is just bait posted by someone from 4chan.
May I have some context? Too far outside of Linux to recognize who these people are (and usually assume "libre" usually means "good")
XLibre is a Xorg fork by an apolitical software developer who got kicked of the Xorg team for introducing too many improvements to the Xorg code base.
Ah! Another round of "drama!".
And the fun with neovim over the past day. I wonder if they use XLibre or Omarchy lol
you had me until I followed the link. the readme when xlibre was forked is a very reasonable, apolitical take and didn't have me immediately write it off.
I really don't understand the wayland issues. I get it didn't or doesn't have some features of X but that's how everything goes.
Sure, proudly claiming that your project is DEI free is just apolitical. Is anyone else hearing this high pitched noise?
Wayland was rough a few years ago and people who tried it then before switching back to X11 think it's still the same.
The Wayland devs have been hard at work hammering out all the edge cases and getting Nvidia's drivers working properly, so a lot of stuff that didn't work in 2022 or took effort to set up works out of the box now.
I also want to point out that the Wayland devs are, by and large, the exact same people as the X11 devs. These aren't white monster fueled hotshots working for a FAANG with a massive case of Not Invented Here. The people who knew X11 best designed Wayland from the foundation up to be the better solution.
Apolitical people doing apolitical stuff, I guess.
Lol. Skill issue of xlibre devs, eh?
I'd never even heard of them before TBH...
Basically, XLibre was a project that forked XOrg and tried to make it suitable for modern use. If you don't know what X11 (XOrg version 11) and Wayland are, in a nutshell X11 is an ancient display server for Linux that handled things like rendering windows. Being so old, it had lots of security issues, so the Wayland protocol was developed to replace X11.
Nowadays the majority of applications support native Wayland or XWayland, the compatibility layer for X11 apps, and both GNOME and KDE Plasma have committed to becoming Wayland-only. I believe Cinnamon (and therefore Mint) will soon switch to Wayland too.
However, there are a few people who advocate for staying on X11, perhaps they rely on a specific app that simply doesn't work with XWayland, or maybe they are just stubborn. Whatever the case is, somebody decided to create the XLibre fork, and the reason they did so was because they were booted from XOrg for promoting conspiracy theories (antivax stuff, COVID is a government conspiracy, WW2 was forced upon the Germans, that sort of insane stuff) and distasteful political opinions. XLibre broke compatibility with a lot of XOrg drivers, making it a bit of the worst of both worlds.
If you mean Artix Linux, I believe it's a version of Arch that doesn't use systemd.
