Hello it's me the 23-year-old jaded formerly famous detective

Then again, in this world you have 12-year-olds serving in the military so I guess it makes sense

how many video games actually features an older character as the principal character? the only one coming to mind for me is KOTOR 2 where the fact that your character already went on a hero's journey and is kind of sick and tired of that BS is a pretty major theme.

Nier: Gestalt had Dad!Nier, but they just used Brother!Nier in the remake.

As I recall Dad Nier was only ever a ploy to get Westerners to buy the game and was never in any Japanese version of the game

Kinda the other way around - Dad and Brother were console exclusives in Japan, with one being PS3 and the other xbox360, while western audiences only got Dad, as Japanese execs didn't think they'd be interested in a pretty boy protagonist.

I think most military centric games you play as a 30s character, some GTA characters are 30/40 too.

Every Yakuza game, the youngest main character in any of the games (except Haruka) is 29 at the time.

Metal Gear Solid comes to mind.

I love it when anime characters, that just hit 30 say shit like: "I've lived a long life." before they get got.

Ain't that the truth.

there's two kinds of character:

ones they say are 18 but are really 12

ones they say are 16 but are really 30

Almost all of the Scions in FF14 are at least 10 years older than it says to me when things start. And are about another 5-10 now.

I wish Japan would stop being afraid of 30-40 year olds.

Playing Final Fantasy X in your 30s hits different when everyone calls Auron "old man" and treat him like a geriatric when he's like, 32.

Not so young anymore, eh Snake? You're drowning in time!

(Snake is like 35 at that point)

I mean, 35 isn't 'young'. I wouldn't call 35 necessarily 'old' either but that line isn't egregious

Unc

It is made kinda funny by being said by a guy who then gloats about having escaped his own identically aged body by mindjacking a 70-year-old

To be fair, he is a clone that like, ages super fast or something right?

Nothing really visually clues you in on him aging rapidly in MGS1 and 2. He's just a handsome scruffy man with a supple butt

with a supple butt

dummy thicc made him fail all those stealth missions

He just like me fr fr

I mean it's just Tidus and Yuna who treat him like he's old, and that's because they've both known him since they were little. To Tidus he's a wacky uncle figure and to Yuna he's basically a legendary hero.

may I interest you in a nice Ryuu ga Gotoku in these trying times.

I've heard of this I think.

Turning 41 this year like

No no, that's Expedition 33 which is French. /kidding

I still get carded too! We're not that old ffs. Japan is weird.

I still remember people not believing when I was 30

I guess my life of proper skincare and avoiding the sun has helped a lot

That and the fact I can't grow a beard

Best I can do is a nice Solid Snake style stubble

I am 40 but I keep getting clocked as 30 because:

  1. Me transgender and second puberty really de-ages you.

  2. I'm a nerd that avoids the sun and when I go out I wear sunscreen.

  3. I have a thick beard but I'm also in Spain so it cancels out I guess?

Anyway Japanese games where the protagonist is older, uh: Hotel Dusk, Silent Hill 1 & 2, Shadow Hearts 1 & 2 have some olds in the roster. In Tokyo Jungle you can unlock a salary man. Persona 2 and the SMT games have some older characters, it depends.

Alphinaud and Alisaie will be 17 forever

They were not 17 when things started! They were at least 20. I mean they almost have college degrees and are voiced by adults -_-.

(Btw it'll always be funny to me that Alphinaud had such a character changing story arch that it caused him to change voice actors. That's one powerful redemption! Go from Sam Regal to British. )

Excuse me, I didn't check, they are officially both 16 forever

is like 60% of anime about literal children?

The japanese are so crushed by capitlaism and long working hours that the only people they can imagine going on adventures are high school kids on summer break.

Probably. "Shonen" is popular, which means anime/manga aimed at the demographic of 12 year old boys. It's not really surprising that this genre often features settings which utilize child soldiers and have children as main characters.

But when you are a kid you don't want to be a kid, you want to be something big and powerful, like a dinosaur, an anthropomorphic shark or the guy from gargoyles. It's usually when you are an adult that you want to be a kid, because work sucks, not me, school sucked even more.

Kids want to self-insert and imagine themselves in the role of the character though. Same reason Harry Potter was so wildly popular.

Come to think of it most of the extremely famous western kids books have been isekais aimed at kids. Harry Potter is basically an isekai of a normie kid whisked away into the world of magic. Narnia is basically an Isekai. Alice in Wonderland too. Twilight.

I guess you are right. Media named at kids does often have kid protagonists. The Heinlein juveniles also often feature teenagers. Now that you mention it, even dragon ball started with Goku as a kid. In that case the part of the saga were he is a deadbeat dad is more popular.

Kids do also like media about kids like them going on adventures though

There's probably just some cultural aspect to it as well. They weren't kids but I'm reminded of how its famously said that part of the reason why Kojima introduced Raiden in MGS2 was because many female Japanese players complained about Snake being too old and unattractive.

Also I'm reminded of something I once heard about Marlboro (?) having to swap rugged cowboys for rich ranch owners in advertisements in some foreign market (China?) because they were just seen as dirty farmhands, not aspirational figures

I remember when I was in high school, one time I was hanging out with older kids(college kids) and they were making fun of this girl(Italian doctoral student) who had adopted a very ugly kitten, and she said, "maybe the cats is like sean Connery, and he will get more handsome as he ages"

I guess that wouldn't have worked as a defence in those cultures.

But know that you mentioned it, the most Interesting man in the world almost didn't get casted because they wanted someone younger, untill his wife asked: "how can the most interesting man in the world be young?" Wich is sort of what the op is about.

Do children want that or is that what they get?

My biggest issue with JRPGs is that they almost exclusively have main characters that are 20-26. It's like they know old people need more polygons.

Edit: and that the story doesn't naturally select for that very narrow age range.

Fuckin' Valkyria Chronicles

I like the gameplay, but geez, everything else is like

For all the amusement you can get from the setting, at its core it's very "generic late 2000s/2010s anime." Every game has a literal beach episode as an excuse to put the (often underage) female characters in swimsuits and to animate them jiggling

excuse to put the (often underage) female characters in swimsuits and to animate them jiggling

Why is Japan like this

I blame, in this exact order, the Portuguese, the Catholic Church, Commodore Perry, the Daimyōs of Chōshū, Satsuma, and Tosa, Emperors Meiji, Taishō, and Shōwa, The Japanese Communist Party, General McArthur, Syngman Rhee, Harry Truman, and Hayato Ikeda for setting the groundwork for Japan's pedophilia problems.

We didn't start the fire...

Which is a big shame because the setting is a great opportunity to explore and criticize some great issues like independence, racism, historical materialism, class, penal labor, and whether or not the concept of Europe should have ever been allowed to exist.

You know, deep philosophy.

It tries to do some of those things sometimes. How the series handles racism feels weird. Most people are horrifically racist against the Darcsen (the broad analogue for the Jews/Roma), even on the Gallian side, but the protagonists seem weirdly passive about the issue even when its their friends or adopted family members being racially abused by randos in front of them.

Isnt' great that anime stuff has actually gotten worse instead of better? /s

Oh, I am familiar

I was like 18 when the first one came out

Doesn't it also have someone boning their sister or something

There are some secondary characters with some weird brother sister shit going on

just accurate depictions of nobility

He was so hopeful 2 years ago.

I am ever so grateful to see more anime or manga with characters that are in late 20s to even 30s. At least compared to forever high-school, that's a big upgrade.

What, you want stories set in a retirement home or something??????

Actually, yes. The best mystery stories are nosy old ladies solving it. Solving crimes between knitting circle and visits from the grandkids.


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I want to see more stories of people who died of really old age of 40 while at it

well keep up with my page and that might happen if I keep accidentally hurting my poor disabled body. This time it's a mysterious poison ivy infection and I can't figure out where it came from in the yard -_-

Could also be poison sumac, it's a lot less noticeable than poison ivy

That's true.

im gonna be real i need hana monogatari (manga, not the one by nobuko) to get a low budget anime so much

Japanese writers, stop

Unless you’re Murakami I guess, he’s alright

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