American right-wing, TYVM. Just over half us aren't that stupid, although I admit their number seems to be growing.

Over half of Americans aren't anti-capitalist, please be real

I didn't say that. The meme is about blaming communists for capitalist problems. That's almost entirely a right-wing thing.

I mean not true the democrats also like to accuse Trump as being the "true communist" I would agree they aren't "left-wing" but then they and the republicans are much more than half.

I don't know... plenty of "left-wing" in Amerika are still blaming Russia for everything and also being paranoid about Communism.

Its because the americans misguidedly lump the neolibs in with the left, and the neolibs make up a big chunk of the nominally left party

The USSR collapsed three and a half decades ago and you MLers are still trying to conflate fascist Russia with communism.

Meanwhile, back in reality, blaming Russia has fuck-all to do with communism, let alone being paranoid about it.

We're perfectly aware that Russia is capitalist, it gets no more credits than Germany for its communist past. The reason it receives critical support is because it's opposing the US, and the US hegemon falling is pretty much the gateway to socialism worldwide.

We're so clear about it that I don't even understand how you could possibly think we support Russia because we think it's still socialist?

The reason [Russia] receives critical support is because it’s opposing the US

From your link:

Critical support is supporting something while also being critical of its flaws. It is often used in the context of supporting bourgeois states that fight against imperialism or are under imperialist aggression.

The thing is, Russia is exactly the polar opposite of "supporting bourgois states that fight against imperialism" or being "under imperialist aggression." Those statements describe states like Ukraine, while Russia is itself also an imperialist aggressor.

You can argue that the US is also bad in that regard, but you sure as Hell can't argue that Russia is any better. Supporting Russia "critically" (which I'm also not buying, BTW: quite a lot of its support around her is distinctly uncritical) is doing nothing but advocating for trading one oppressing overlord for another.


We’re so clear about it that I don’t even understand how you could possibly think we support Russia because we think it’s still socialist?

Thinking that maybe you were still somehow confused about Russia being communist was being charitable -- giving you the benefit of the doubt. If you're saying that y'all knowingly support fascists, that just makes you irredeemably terrible people.

states like Ukraine

y’all knowingly support fascists

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel%E2%80%93Ukraine_relations

Whataboutism.

The undeniable fact is that Russia invaded Ukraine, not the other way around. That makes Russia the aggressor and Ukraine the victim in that conflict.

"Erm sir it is actually a heckin whataboutism to point out that I have aligned myself with Nazis"

History started in 2022. I am very smart!

“Four months into this thing, I like the structural path we’re on here. As long as we help Ukraine with the weapons they need and the economic support, they will fight to the last person,” said Sen. Lindsay Graham (R-S.C.) early into the war, accidentally voicing what the war’s critics have often said about the war — that the U.S. will fight it “to the last Ukrainian.” Later, Graham called it the “best money we’ve ever spent.”

Who the hell is saying Russia is communist? Certainly not Marxist-Leninists

Its crazy how you guys will hear some moron say "I heard communists believe this" and just immediately go "yup sounds true, stupid communists" with no investigation or follow up.

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