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World NewsThe Turkish arrest warrant accuses Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of 'crimes against humanity, genocide, aggravated deprivation of liberty,' and 'torture,' linked to Israel's treatment of activists from a Gaza-bound aid flotilla.
I hope they both lose.
Two scumbags hating each other. I really wish we could get them in a cage together and just give them enough food and water for one.
both netanyahu and ergogan are scum
But the worst person here is Netanyahu
Yeah, I still think the image is funny tho
Second worst.
I can think of a few I’d rank below Benji and above Ergodon
But I wasn't thinking of them when I said that, and there's no objective measure of morality.
For sure, wasn’t trying to correct you really, just weighing in
I hate Erdogan, but not as much as Israel.
I wonder what would happen, if somehow Turkey grabbed him, held him in secret for their own court proceedings, what the US would do.
Obviously sanctions and prosecutions for sanction violations. Threats, grabbing their citizens for kangarooing in the courts. Kick them out of the f-35 program they never should've been brought in on in the first place, probably cut off all weapons shipments and even hit kill switches in any us planes they have.
But what else? The president is nety's bitch, he will stop at nothing to prevent nety from outing him on the blackmail.
Both Israel and turkey are bullshiting and won't attack each other directly. Israel will continue to attack the turkey backed government and militia and that's all
Oh for sure, Erdogan isn't grabbing Nety, I was just speaking hypothetically. I agree they will at most probably trade some barbs, mostly for domestic politics, and attack their proxies.
That would be fucking legendary though if Turkey grabbed his ass somewhere and tried and executed the sentence of their court in secret.
That's the thing though, these assholes all play off each other. netanyahu hamas erdogan, (and unfortunately many other world leaders) they all have the common interest of making more money when there's more war and military action. They can all act outraged but take the human emotions out of it and logically it's just actors in a game all incentivized to escalate violence. The ones losing out are the People on all sides who see their homes destroyed if they're lucky enough not to be killed.
Even when the personalities really hate each other, like when trump had maduro captured. Who succeeded maduro?? Literally his second-in-command. Did the Venezuelan constitution have any changes? Literally none. in fact, the new president, delcy rodriguez has been in government for 20 years since she was first appointed by hugo fucking chavez. We killed more fishermen than actual members of the maduro regime.
There we go with all side are bad bullshit. Israel is the only one committing genocide. Hamas is a resistance group that surely did act of Terrorism but so the allies during world war 2 that make Hamas look like a bunch of no name thugs
It's not all sides, it's the war mongers versus the rest of us, that's the two sides.
Hamas is not part of the war monger, they wouldn't even exists if palestine was not colonized. Was resistance against the French war mongering by Tunisians and Algerian war mongering for you too
That's why they attack all those weddings and dance parties, because those are military targets and not civilian targets designed to escalate the military situation.
You are acting like there was zero military target during October 7 and many resistance group comited war crimes and atrocities during Thier resistance. Was the allies during world war 2 war mongers?
Maybe, are the US not warmongers and have been for most of their existence?
But I'll go back to what you said earlier
they wouldn’t even exists if palestine was not colonized
Right, so their continued existence depends on a continued colonization
Palestinians are Semites too!
Yup, and by that measure the Israelis are the biggest anti semites out there
Israel is fucking psychotic if they think they could take on Turkey.
Turkey has 10x the population and 10x the diplomatic pull. Not to mention any attacks on Turkey is an immediate and hard Article 5 trigger. The US may be compromised by Israel's pedophile blackmail on Trump, but the rest of Europe isn't quite so.
Edit: also not to mention the defense pact made with a nuclear power, Pakistan, and a potentially soon to be nuclear power, Saudi Arabia.
NATO will rather break apart than help Turkey against Israel. Putin is probably hoping for this conflict.
Have you even Iran?
Man, Turkey has fucked my region for 500 years.
And I'd still have their back against these genocidal cunts.
10x the diplomatic pull
Outside of being a NATO member I don't think Turkey has the sort of political pull that Israel has. Israel has literally been getting away with genocide for years now. Its functionally illegal to criticize Israel in many places.
potentially soon to be nuclear power, Saudi Arabia
Let's let the powderkeg of Wahhabism have nukes, that'll stop the Islamic Republic. No the clock towers will never fall.
- Israel gets away with genocide *
Turkey: "First time?"
Tbf Turkey's influence comes from having second biggest military in NATO, and just geographically being in a strategic location.
Meanwhile Israel's influence comes from being a convenient propoganda machine for west. Not as stable source.
Israel could straight up attack Turkey triggering article five and several NATO members, including the US, would immediately back Israel. You can point out how stupid, irrational, and illegal that would be all you want, and you'd be correct, but its still what will happen. That's the level of ideological commitment to Zionism we're dealing with here.
The rest of Nato won't do shit if the US beefs with Turkey. Saudi arabia won't do shit. Pakistan won't do dick.
But you are right that Turkey is no pushover, and they have their own leverage with the straits to the black sea there, which is the only reason they were brought into Nato in the first place I strongly suspect.
The US is stronger but we have such bad leadership at all levels, attacking Turkey is unthinkable, but so was attackng Iran so go figure.
You’re historically right, but I also suspect the US is in a much much more precarious position in terms of actual military power right now. Stronger still for sure, there’s a bunch of nukes lying around. But given the expenditure on Iran I think the reputation is carrying most of that weight
Just like with Russia, the superpowers are not so super now that they've degenerated so far.
To be fair Russia was always like this, and they've gotten their asses handed to them in both of the world wars, totally in the first, I think they lost like 5 million, and for a long time in the second, and they probably would have lost if Hitler didn't overrule the generals and change objectives multiple times with winter approaching.
But fascists and oligarchs and their ilk are just not great at running an effective prosperous country, or at running a war. They are quite eager to start them, but like Mussolini get their asses handed to them by much smaller and less advantaged marks. Mussolini got his ass kicked in Albania after invading it, the germans had to come in and take over. Then in Ethiopia they were losing too, until they started using poison gas on everything that moved. Which was outlawed internationally after WW1, along with a range of other things like the use of shotguns, (nasty wounds, especially when you use rusty nails and broken glass instead of lead,) I forget if that's when they also banned the triangular bladed bayonets, that might have been earlier.
Turkey doesn't have nuclear weapons and american aircraft Carr.... Hey where'd the us Navy go?
Broken clock moment
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bro just call him a dictator. you don't need to throw in antisemitic, that word as lost all meaning.
It's not meaningless, but consider the source
As a Jew, I've definitely experienced antisemitism. I've also been called antisemitic myself (almost always from boot licking Zionists), but I can tell the difference between brainwashed Jew hating fascists and brainwashed Zionist fascists
It certainly is annoying, because antisemitism is a real thing. Look at the mass shooting in Pittsburgh and the one in Australia
It never made sense really, semitic people are not relegated to jewish people, they are a minority. Arabs are all semetic (Iran eastward are "aryan.") Descended from the phoencians and later the carthaginians and the like.
Netanyahu doesnt WANT TO be the only anti-semitic dictator out there.
Just to be clear, this is most probably due to Bibi shooting off his mouth instead of any moral stance. It's the same reason he bans websites like Wikipedia or Facebook
I..I don't think Wikipedia is banned in Israel?
They he in that sentence refers to Erdoğan
This is funny because both sides are likely true. Netanyahu is a pos, the accusations from Turkey are right. On the other hand, Erdogan would love to be a dictator (he is already almost there) and chances are high that he is an antisemite, too since antisemitism runs quite strong in Turkish society.
He is already a dictator but get the hell out of here with the antisemitism accusations
