wait like a month and the pixel price will go down to like 600 dollars. that's what I did for my pixel 10.

Dont buy a pixel new. 11 pro is underwhelming anyway, weak af

What specs do you need? The cheapest GrapheneOS compatible phone you can get for before the Motorola release is a Pixel 6a, or 7/7 Pro if you need better specs. I use a Pixel 6 Pro and the specs are fine if it weren't losing support in October. If you want more longetivy get a Pixel 8.

I'll on the opposite side: will the Moto GOS be more affordable than a Pixel one? It seems they'll go the way of the Signature and beyond

The 10 pro still has graphene support. It'll be on sale here in a little while because the pro 11 is launching (same with their other variants, I think). Unless we get a for sure launch date for the graphene moto phones, I'd pull the trigger on a new pixel.

I just got a used pixel late last year and have been using that.

I will wait for Motorola.

A Pixel. I don't want the first generation of Moto/GOS. The 2nd or 3rd year should have fewer bugs.

If you understand what graphene is for and you need that then you wont wait.

Even if you don’t understand what graphene is for or if you need it and are trying to make a decision: graphene on new and used pixel phones works as expected now. It has been tested and proven against many different intelligence and surveillance apparatus. Motorolas new phone may not come out at all (it’s more likely than you might think!), may not end up supporting graphene (or graphene may not end up supporting it!) or it may have serious flaws that need to be addressed (it is a new hardware platform after all!).

If you need it now don’t wait.

Aside from how the phones actually compare, I think it'd be good to show there is a market for a factory graphene phone. I want companies to see the difference (financially) when they start taking privacy and other pro consumer ideas seriously.

FWIW, am using a pixel 7 pro, and don't feel any need for higher specs. Though I'm not doing any kind of demanding gaming.

Unless I needed a replacement now, I would wait. It’ll be the first phone designed with GOS in mind but also Motorola’s recent track record isn’t amazing. I’m also hoping they have multiple phones supporting GOS. If initial reviews aren’t great, then refurbished Pixel it is.

I'm hopeful. I want my next phone without Google or Samsung - and I really hope Motorola will deliver their promises.
And also that the upcoming phone have to have an extendable storage for me to buy. It is my main principle - unfortunately I had to give up on headphone jacks...

Swappa.com for a cheap ass used pixel...typed from my cheap ass pixel with GrapheneOS

If you want GrapheneOS without funding Google, why not get a secondhand Pixel?

If I just learned of GOS now and didn't have a Pixel, I would buy an unlocked unit cheap and used now. Motorola have gone quiet about their GOS phone in the months since the announcement. If it ends up flagship-priced, I'd have to settle for a used Pixel anyway.

But since I have a Pixel with GOS that is perfectly usable already, I'm holding out to see what Motorola comes up with. Either way, not too worried about specs since I don't use my phone that much. Would be nice to have SD card, headphone jack (bonus ease of security points over Bluetooth and dongles), and replaceable battery, but have also learned to (begrudgingly) tolerate phones without those.

It all depends on how badly you need a new phone. My current Pixel is perfectly serviceable, so I have no problem waiting to see what Motorola eventually has to offer. My current phone will almost certainly suffice until then.

With that said, if my current phone was actually broken or whatever, I would probably buy a cheap/old/used Pixel to tide me over until the Motorola reveal.

Same situation (current phone is dying) so I'll be watching this thread as well, sorry I cant contribute with an answer

I'm thinking of waiting for the actual specs of the Motorolla to make a decision, I don't want to give Google my money so a refubished Pixel is my other option

If they're saying beginning of 2027 I'd wait, unless you need a phone sooner.

If you have an ok phone now, there's no need for a new one unless it's interesting. I'd wait to see about the moto graphene phone. I'm quite happy with low end moto hardware (G series) but they will probably screw up and make the graphene phone a flagship, as someone mentioned.

I'm waiting. Not only because I'd rather use Motorola over Google, but also because I want to wait and see how the EU ID apps will work on GrapheneOS. If it won't work on GOS (which seems quite likely as of today), then I will ditch the phone as a social medium entirely and only use it for ID, banking apps and other proprietary garbage society forces upon me. I'd relegate my social life to a portable laptop or something, on which I have a far greater control of the software.

I am precisely doing that since my xiaomi drowned last month. Got myself a spare/ secondary phone that happens to be my primary at the moment. It has another feature I wanted to try: an eink screen, black and white, easy on my eyes (model: bigme hibreak).

I am happy with my decision :) it's like a digital detox in its own way... Most of my app consumption was text > sound >> video, and the latter doesn't look bad at all anyway, so... here we are. Only some content received via Whatsapp but I use the web version at my pc most of the day (e.g. videos of my family or photos from friends)

It's nice to have some other choices but, given all the current legislation suddenly appearing about requiring vendors to identify users, I think there's a good chance Motorola is rethinking this decision.

I used to really like Motorola but their lineup has really gone down the drain in the last few years. The last Motorola I had was a Moto G100 (2021) and I was reasonably happy with it until the battery started expanding in early 2025. When I tried looking for a new Motorola at that time I didn't find anything that didn't have completely disappointing specs, so I went with a Pixel 9 pro specifically for GrapheneOS. It was a really good upgrade. The camera is much better, the battery lasts longer and has fast-charging and wireless charging. I hope I won't be needing a new phone for the next few years but if I needed one right now I probably wouldn't go with a Motorola, even if I could keep using GOS on it.

Is its bootloader unlockable, or locked to Graphene? Graphene seems to be trading freedom for 'security'.

i bought a used 8 pro

Maybe, but probaby not gonna budget friendly, because of GOS hardware requirements for security and we all know how overprice a Pixel phone is

need a phone ? buy a used Pixel ?

I'm sitting on my Pixel 8 until I can compare the Moto Graphene phone and the next Fairphone. If I'm going to get subpar performance relative to Apple and Qualcomm, I'm going to at least get a removable battery in exchange. I want wired video out, which disqualifies the Fairphone 6.

I am waiting for now, for me, since I already have a phone. That said, if it's the difference between zero connection and the status quo, I would just buy something now. The status quo is better than nothing at all. But once Graphene'd Motorola comes out, it's a no brainer purchace for anyone who wants to own their device in deed and not just on paper.

Only on motorola flagships afaik, so no way in hell.

I like the idea of graphene, but I would never buy a google phone to degoogle, because logic. I already own a low end motorola, I'm not a fan of the brand.

iode. I wouldn't trust Graphene as far as I could throw its founder.

Motorola hasn’t released a good phone in decades and I wouldn’t expect them to get this one right.

Google and their fans are a bit insane considering the new Pixels are giving iPhone 11 performance at iPhone 17 Pro pricing. And you still pay with your personal data. Make it make sense.

If you don’t trust Apple, I’m really not sure what to tell you. You could get s handheld Mac… or you could take your chances with something far less reputable and hope. Nothing and OnePlus seem promising, but they also seem to under-deliver. I’d also be looking into the “Linux phones,” though I think those are just Android in disguise since they run Android apps?

At some point, you’re gonna get a cheap smartphone and not care what it runs because you don’t put any personal data on it, you just use it as a hotspot for a laptop running Linux, and you make calls through some web service.