Guilty. I think.
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VetOfTheSeas
General Memes & Private ChuckleOrange cats are the best cats.
He did that all on his own, he was a great cat.
Needlessly gendered, casual sexism. It's not "people" who are implied to be dumb and impulsive, just men. Cool, very haha.
EDIT. man, sure are a lot of people who wanna defend sexism. I think the real lesson here is that I should just block people earlier.
What do you consider to be "orange cat behavior"?
Pretty sure people like their orange cats?
Also if we're going by your interpretation of what the poster is meaning it's not really needlessly gendered. Most people on the site would be young men, and young men statistically make more dumb and impulsive decisions than young women, it's why we pay more for insurance.
The only issue I have is her saying "too many", as if it's a bad thing or something
Eh, variety is the spice of life. Monocultures are bad for the social environment as well.
I think that says more about how we view men as a group than anything. Why is "too many men" automatically a negative?
It's funny, I stumbled on this meme in the wholesome community just now that I think is fitting:
Because in this context it means there are more men than necessary that exhibit this. Otherwise the statement would be, "not enough men"
Eh I think it’s neutral personally.
It's a beige alert, your Neutralness!
Not sure I understand, are you implying that because insurance companies openly discriminate, that means it's not discrimination? So if a capitalist industry says it's true, then it's true?
Or, are you implying something along the lines to say that men are, by nature, dumber and impulsive? Like it's some fact of biology measurable by statistics? And not like, some kind of expected role placed on men to fit into society, encouraging them to be brash and aggressive? Boys will by boys and all that.
But hey, lets abuse statistic and this "by nature" argument a bit more, see how that line of thinking has been used against other groups of people, and see if it feels alight:
"Women are simply not as smart and are meant to be caring and loving mothers, its in their nature".
Hmmmmm, troubling. But statistically, at that time, true. Because women weren't allowed in higher education and were expected to keep house. So crazy thing, that's what a large statistic of women did. The weren't educated and grew up to be housewives as their only skill. And look at that, now I can use the artificially induced statistic as evidence and create this neato little feedback loop until everyone just accepts it an immutable fact of nature.
It's almost like... we have this society built on explicit gender roles and expectations. And trying to use those societal pressures as some kind of proof of nature, is pretty fucking dumb, and inherently sexist af. And flipping the roles so as to say "haha men dumb" doesn't make it any less sexist. And playing this dumb "what do you mean?" game is insincere bullshit.
Hmmmmm, troubling. But statistically, at that time, true. Because women weren’t allowed in higher education and were expected to keep house. So crazy thing, that’s what a large statistic of women did. The weren’t educated and grew up to be housewives as their only skill. And look at that, now I can use the artificially induced statistic as evidence and create this neato little feedback loop until everyone just accepts it an immutable fact of nature.
Comparing systemic sexism and centuries of patriarchal suppression of women to a funny tweet that's akin to the "golden retriever boyfriend" trope sure is a thing you can do.
interesting that you flipped the comparative metaphor to a positive one. Why didn't you chose a "funny tweet" that's derogatory? Do they have different connotations and thus are treated differently when discussing issues of discriminatory behaviour?
I think being compared to an orange cat is generally positive.
sure man, lets just play pretend that the popularly understood interpretation of a thing is not what's being implied. I think you're a bitch... waitwaitwait, I mean that in a positive way, like how bitches are motherly and loyal dogs. Isn't that what people mean when they say that?
Wow. You're terrible at arguments.
Come on, name calling is crossing the line and you know it.
Not sure I understand, are you implying that because insurance companies openly discriminate, that means it's not discrimination?
Discrimination usually requires proof of unfair treatment. Insurance companies avoid this by proving these metrics are mathematically and actuarially tied to risk rather than intentional bias.
Are you denying that young men are less risk adverse than young women, that young men do not injure themselves and others more than young women?
are you implying something along the lines to say that men are, by nature, dumber and impulsive? Like it's some fact of biology measurable by statistics?
Yes..... Testosterone is well known to effect mood regulation and decision making, including the ability to control and reflect upon impulsive behaviour.
line of thinking has been used against other groups of people, and see if it feels alight:
Yes because falsely equating modern medical science to something like phrenology is totally a legitimate argument....
Women are simply not as smart and are meant to be caring and loving mothers, its in their nature
That is making an absolute claim, which is not what I or the original the original post did.
Also, most all studies agree that women and men both have the same average IQ of around 100, but tend to be better at different aspects of the test.
The second part of your claim is not really something that can be statically measured? "Women are supposed to be loving mother" as opposed to what exactly? How are we quantifying what a loving mother is?
The weren't educated and grew up to be housewives as their only skill.
More women are seeking higher education then men currently?
Even your "pretend" sexism is moronic. So I guess you are being a little orange cat brained today.
It's almost like... we have this society built on explicit gender roles and expectations.
It's almost like you are dramatically over reaching to turn this two sentence post so you can turn this thread into an Incel soapbox about the male loneliness epidemic.
tldr: you really really really wanna justify your sexist views cuz they make with the funny.
No, just tired of people reaching for the worst excuse that they use to blame their ineptitude and inability to succeed in life.
You might have a lot going on with your life, you may currently be discriminated against for a number of valid reasons.... Being a man is not one of them.
There is no society on the planet where women currently have more institutional, economic, or social power than men.
ah, one of those "only men can be sexist" types.
I'm not going to play educator with a freshman gender studies edgelord. Do some more reading, get a nuanced view. Manhating is not feminism. Read up on intersectional feminism. You're one bad view away from being a full fledged TERF.
ah, one of those "only men can be sexist" types.
Lol, and when did I say that? You can experience someone calling you a derogatory name, or be depicted in a sexist way. What you cannot experience is systemic and life altering sexism that can functionally impede your ability to succeed in society.
Do some more reading, get a nuanced view.
Right after you work on your reading comprehension.....
Manhating is not feminism. Read up on intersectional feminism.
Hello, it is me...the man hating man. Just because I don't whine like a little boy anytime someone pokes fun in the direction of my gender, does not mean I hate myself.
I'm just not a angsty teenager that tries to equivocate my hurt feelings to the generational systemic sexism experienced by women, a sexism that's historically been backed by violence on a personal and state level.
You're one bad view away from being a full fledged TERF
Wut? Defending women equals me being TERF? Are you implying that trans women are not women?
Get the fuck out here dude. What line will you not cross to paint yourself as a victim?
Misandry doesn’t exist the way misogyny does.
No one is implied to be dumb and impulsive. The statement isn't exclusive to men, or even all men. This is far from sexism, it's humorously punching up.
If you're going to ignore the post and make up your own joke anyway, why don't you tell us what it is?
Are “dumb and impulsive” the only traits that orange cats exhibit?
No, but its whats implied by "orange cat behaviour". It has no real foundation in actual cat behaviour research, but its a tag or search term for orange cats doing stupid and/or impulsive things that people upload
Broadfern’s comment is a more wholesome interpretation that I think describes some boys quite well:
Cute, friendly, food-motivated, prone to getting into lighthearted mischief, and occasionally doing things with little regard to personal safety because the fun factor is more important.
thank you. That's exactly what most people mean by "orange cat": Stupid, impulsive, "sharing one brain cell".
Some (very insincere) people rushing in the comments to pretend "nono, that's not what it means". Because if it means, what everyone else thinks it to mean, then they'd have admit that they're a little sexist. Or okay at least with sexist humor targeted at men.
Does this mean I really am a Himbo?
I would love to get me an orange-cat-brained cutie to adore, regardless of gender.
Does anyone else feel like elaborating? Lol
Cute, friendly, food-motivated, prone to getting into lighthearted mischief, and occasionally doing things with little regard to personal safety because the fun factor is more important.
Sound like stuff we'd want more of that yeah? Reading into the too many men part of the statement i guess.
Eh the reckless part isn’t necessarily a positive we want to encourage wholesale, right?
This feels like a “golden retriever energy” type of post.
Seems like that's just describing boys in general
Oh nice I thought it meant drinking from a bowl and shitting in a tray
I like lasagna.
Lazy, sarcastic, loves lasagna, and hates Mondays.
Eldridch abomination
My single brain cell is offended!
