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Our age of bronze is ending!

I just burst out laughing at this line. I couldn't believe they let this into the script.

We're all just sea peoples in this Late Bronze Age

I haven't seen the movie, do they actually say "Our age of bronze is ending"?

Upon further research, it's actually "our age of bronze is collapsing", but yes. The people who watched the movie with me didn't find it as jarring as I did, but yeah, it's very odd

did they actually say that, christ

Not exactly what I said, lol

It was more like a musing about "our age of bronze" coming to an end, during a monologue towards the end of the movie.

The Odyssey was a well shot, well acted and well made film but it's very much a conservative film which makes the chud freakout over how"woke" it is even stupider

It's literally just Ancient Geek shoot and cry

The other darkly ironic hypocrisy of the film lies in the vey notion of violating "Zeus's Law" despite that being the closest the it actually gets to being progressive or actually woke

The idea that Zeus would give a shit about honor is kinda hilarious to anyone who knows the first damn thing about Zeus, Zeus was a fucking asshole in all his mythology

::: spoiler CW SA, incest, torture and probably some other shit I'm forgetting

First off Zeus is a fuckingremoved, like an unrepentant multiple offendingremoved, I'm pretty sure heremovedd his own mom even (kinda fucked Odipus still gets shit from everyone to this day when Zeus never does despite being waaay worse)

Also torturing Prometheus forever just for sharing a bit of the god's knowledge with humanity is objectively fucked up, if it weren't for Prometheus siding with him against the rest of the Titans Zeus never would've won his war against the Titans

Speaking of his war against the Titans, that was far from an honorable war and I would in fact say there are many parallels between Zeus and Odysseus in their dishonorable actions in their respective wars

The way Zeus overthrew his father the leader of the Titans to become the new king of the gods was almost exactly like the Trojan Horse itself only it was his father Cronus who was the Trojan Horse due to consuming his own children (as per the famous painting) in an attempt to prevent a prophecy that he would be overthrown by his children but in classic Geek mythology fashion turning it into a self fulfilling one

That and Hades is explicitly said to use a helmet that made him invisible during the war fightingfor his bother Zeus, I can't think of a more dishonorable tactic by Odysseus's standards :::

Now if it were called Athena's Law maybe it would mean a bit more

Either way the only real good message from the film is is that we the west and specifically violated some sacred law of humanity and the gods through our objectively dishonorable actions in all of our wars

It's literally just Ancient Geek shoot and cry

Swords and sandals shoot and cry lol

The ancient Greeks did not have our attitudes towards consent, women's personhood etc. Zeus is, even at his worst, still a righteous force. Even when he is acting against humanity at large. Even when he brought us all disease and death, he did so because we were wrong to think ourselves above our stations.

The ancient Greeks were a bunch of bigoted slaving pirates. Of course they have differing conceptions of right and wrong, of course their ideal guy is messed up.

Now if it were called Athena's Law maybe it would mean a bit more

No, it is Zeus' law. Zeus is upholder of laws in Greek understanding, and especially he is the protector of guests. Athena is also just as evil by any objective reckoning as Zeus is, possibly worse. Her treatment of women in particular is abhorrent. Arachne and Medusa specifically.

I wanna hear you rip on the Greeks more can you expand on the bigoted slaving pirates part

Good points, my bad

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