It's not enough that the imperial superprofits will never result in a peace dividend, you can't even buy guns right.

I feel like the next budget fight is unironically going to be "we need to get abolish Medicare to make room for more missiles in the budget"

Idk how that is different than the usual ones

Because the military industrial complex is just three pyramid schemes in a trenchcoat. You don't get healthcare OR a military

This is categorically untrue. The MIC is in fact three pork barrel schemes in a trench coat.

Heh heh fuck around and find out

kills hundreds of thousands of civilians

Heh heh this is why we don't have healthcare

kills hundreds of thousands of civilians

Heh heh you're welcome

kills hundreds of thousands of civilians

loses

The side we were pretending to save are at fault

"We killed more babies than them, so really we won the war after all."

Hyper militaristic society. Wages one war. Loses.

Surprisingly common occurrence.

Honestly, what the fuck are chuds doing if this is the result of their hog lives?

Like, admittedly, most leftists in this country are pencil necks with ZERO training, and yet we’re not far behind as a fighting force. Imagine if we did train lmao they fight for nothing, they’d be fucked

In an actual firefight, most chuds would die the second they had to run into cover.

History has proven over and over again that those who romanticize war fucking suck at war.

The closest person I can think of who's an exception is Napoleon Bonaparte, and even then, there's still more to it than that.

Almost always the best at war are those who will try not to fight it

Is that a quote? I know ive read something almost exactly the same by someone before. Probably just cause im far from the first person to notice this. Telling your populace they have an enemy that is weak snd strong at the ssme time can work until they meet the enemy, who time and time again turns out to know what the fuck theyre doing in their own land and csn defend it quite well or at least make every victory as empty and strategically meaningless as possible. And much like their prison system, the people they unfairly expose to war end out getting better at it.

Its a piss poor doctrine cause that's what gets the doctrine guys paid the most for the longest time. Those who profit from war usually also suck at conducting it. A big major trick to beong good at war id having a fucking goal.

I mean, sounds kinda like Sun Tzu's whole "win without fighting".

All the people they lost against still suffered devastatingly while the American citizen was just fine and dandy. They fought a lot and materially and human cost wise lost quite a bit more in comparison. America hust didnt get what it wanted after killing all those people. They can force a vert pyrric victory

an enemy that is weak and strong at the same time

Makes the whole "know your enemy" thing a lot more difficult

Not quoting anyone directly tho like you I'm sure I'm not the first to say this or express this sentiment

Something about it is dettimg off my 'ive resd this somewhere else' brain. It felt like a wuote by someone who i probably should remember. Most likely a coincidence but now I wanna know who it reminded me of, cause its someone

They would fight by making marketing slogans and setting narratives as they get shot

They wouldn't even bother to leave their porches

Ain't that fascism in a nutshell?

If I remember correctly, treating war as a boring logistics war (as callous as it is) is arguably MORE effective than what fascists want.

Be the biggest baddest dude and you win from sheer badassery.

Military history can be summed up by one group going "War is best fought by a bunch of people who would rather be doing literally anything else, like accountants, teachers, engineers, and logistics managers", followed by another tough guy going "Nah, war is about me being a glorious badass, and... ARGH! I'm dead!"

"Nah, war is about me being a glorious badass, and...

ARGH! I'm dead!"

I feel there's a mid-point here where they're like "Hey these guys can fight back! That's cheating! No fair!"

Basically the response of ex-military who went to Ukraine and were crying about Russians having air support; also the response of military today that Iran can give them a bloody nose

That’s the one I’m looking for!

Clausewitz talks about this at length, 90% of success in war is making sure shit's in the right place at the right time.

It's funny that Clausewitz became *the war guy' when his career consists of the Rhine campaign (Had to be bailed out by the Austrians), the war of the fourth coalition (loss), working a background role as the Prussian army was reformed along Napoleonic line, defecting to Russia and participated in one battle that he lost, going home to Prussia to negotiate Prussia betraying their alliance with France so he could participate in the battle of Ligny (loss) and the battle of Wavre (loss) at which point he retired from combat.

He was involved in a battle that resulted in the occupation of a major European capital 2 times on the losing side.

He clearly has a lot of experience losing, so he knows what's the opposite

TBH, he never commanded himself, just was a staff officer, and wrote a book drawing from his experiences on the dumb shit that resulted in defeats.

Those who can't, teach

He spent most of his time as a teacher on sick leave because he was shitting out his doo doo ass, and most of the work on the thing he's most known for ("On War") was done by his wife while she was also busy having two other jobs. Incidentally she also got him his promotion to colonel and his teaching job.

The man was hard carried through life by his wife.

I was about to say "well, at least he had the ability to self-reflect and write about why he lost and all the fuckups he made" and then you reveal that it was all his wife lmao

You got it ...Thats it. Thats the meme

  • Metal tube
  • Some explosives
  • A microcontroller

Yeah comes out to about 110 million per missile.

Guess that sounds a bit too high if you HATE OUR COUNTRY.

Tech is decades old

It never gets less expensive

I FUCKING LOVE INNOVATION

the money actually goes to superyachts for defense contractor executives

Say we spend all our money on war

Can't do a war

Its because its actually going into politician and oligarch pockets not the military industrial complex, at this point that is tape and glue too.

Ancient history is full of weird nonsense people used to do for cultural or ritual purposes; can't we do a modern day silliness where our military does an elaborate wargame and we pretend it was a war and declare ourselves the winner without actually going to war and ruining the lives of millions? The politicians and oligarchs still get to take all that money but we're not ruining the lives of millions.

We should rid ourselves of the people enriching themselves on the backs of the oppressed globally.

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