https://xcancel.com/ContraPoints/status/2082660029509829063#m

Look, I don't think she's a "Genocide loving Zionist", I think she genuinely thinks what's happening is bad.

But her response, which essentially amounted to nihilistic resignation and a perceived inability to do anything about it, means she's giving tacit support by trying to remain neutral on a moving train.

She bemoaned the supposed impossibility of making a video essay on the topic, but such a thing feels incredibly straightforward to me. She could easily have leaned into that feeling of nihilistic resignation, and explored it. What do we do, when met with horrors that are genuinely difficult to comprehend? Idk talk about Camus or some shit! Explore those feelings! Have some curiosity about them!

But she won't do that, because she's penned in by her liberal politics, petty bourgeois patreon class position, and persecution complex surrounding the fact that she just can't log the fuck off of twitter

I genuinely do not understand this behaviour or why it is so commonplace. Like, just ignoring people calling you out doesn't mean they have "no argument" it's like failure to understand object permanence but for discussion, if they plug their ears and go "lalalalala" then there are no arguments against their position because they personally refuse to listen.

I could understand someone doing this to protect their own ego maybe, but to then try and act like they're the "clever intellectual" who no one can possibly defeat in a battle of wits by just ignoring any arguments against their position, presumably thinking it makes them look smart or something, but it's genuinely the dumbest behaviour I can think of. Wilful ignorance makes you look stupider than anything else, but so many people do it, and brag about it even, thinking refusing to listen or learn makes them smart or something.

It's my sincere opinion that this is just meaningless attention-seeking by a person who everyone here already hates and nearly no one even talks to a sincere fan of, so there's no actual point in posting this except to recreational get mad at someone who is basically irrelevant because they can only preach to the choir. What other use is there? It's not even interesting because it's just the same disingenuous bullshit she always does.

She believes that the Dems will protect her, but she wants to look progressive to get money, so she will say literally anything to serve those two purposes. Every single thing that she has said for years falls into this category outside of even-more-meaningless ragebait about how opium addiction is so much more romantic than alcoholism or whatever the fuck.

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i bet you weird leftist with your purity tests didn't even think about how this affects a privileged white woman

Why do this? She knows exactly what she posted that got people mad at her, and there were hundreds of people in the replies at the time explaining exactly what about the post got them mad.

Rage/engagement bait. Only way for her to have any relevance anymore is to post ridiculous shit like this to stir up engagement.

or to put out video content more than once per year (you know, the way she got famous originally), but she refuses to do that because that would be work and she's on her coasting girlboss passive-income phase

Like look at this, 5 videos in 4 years. Entire 200 million dollar full length studio movies are made quicker than her talking into a camera with bi lighting. Why does someone this lazy feel so entitled to the limelight? She's also getting 1/3 to 1/4 of the views that she used to, probably because her original fans and subscribers have died of old age.

probably because her original fans and subscribers have died of old age.

Nah, her original fans are all way more radical than her. She moved right into Liberal Brunch territory, while the cohort of people who supported her at her peak, have since radicalized further left.

But yeah, girl is definitely coasting on her former (and quickly evaporating) good will

You wouldn't believe how much relevance she still has among some of the "illuminated" leftist people here in Arg

I honestly think she's just addicted to drama and attention. Unless she's got a nasty coke habit or something she should have enough dough to retire by now, she clearly doesn't have anything meaningful to say, she's just a fucking diva.

Unless she's got a nasty coke habit or something

She had an Opium addiction at one point. Which like, I don't want to minimize anyone's struggles with substance abuse, but opium feels like a very bougie addiction to have in the 2020s.

I honestly think she's just addicted to drama and attention.

Imma be real, that ain't the only thing she's obviously addicted to.

Her admitted opium addiction is not something we should mock. Addiction is a serious issue. The fact that she started doing it because she likes the aesthetics of an opium den is a bit funny, but being an addict is a disease and not funny.

I was implying alcoholism, and we can talk about how addictions effect judgment and behavior. That's one of the defining things about drug/alcohol addictions.

That would still be an addiction, still be serious, and still not be worth mocking.

If you feel so strongly about it, take this post down and never make fun of her again.

Mocking someone for having a bad take and mocking them for their disease are not the same

Obviously I don't know her irl but I get the impression contra isn't an alcoholic, she just likes drinking a lot. There's a distinction there.

The accusation here is alcoholism specifically, and I object to mocking someone for their disease.

Egotistical people have a way of completely failing to absorb information about the thought processes and motives of others even when explicitly explained. I knew just such a person once and we would regularly have conversations that went along the following lines:

Him: "Why do you think/do A?"
Me: "For reasons X, Y, and Z."
Him: "Okay, but why do you think/do A?"

May I never become so vain that my ego is my jailer

I bet it already is to some extent one way or another

She's obviously ragebaiting in order to grasp whatever scrap of relevance that's still left

People who only ragebait eventually destroy their mental health

I would say the poor mental health begets the ragebaiting, rather than the other way around. People don't fight for this sort of attention when they're doing well mentally.

Invoking Gamergate is always such a flashbang to any discussion.

The most recent proof contrapoints has publicly shown what side she's on in the Palestinian genocide

~___~

I think it's ironic and an excuse to do "art hoe" shit. I don't think she actually liked Lindsey Graham.

Like she's still a ghoul, but this is just an attempt to be an edgy lib.

Yeah, she's just doing stuff the redscare duo would do at this point. Oh god, nightmare blunt rotation

Fun fact, Anna Kachiyan's dad (Leonid Kachiyan) is famous in my specific field of study. So when I heard her name I was like "is she related to the Ellipsoid Method Kachiyan?!" and when the answer was "yes" I was a bit disappointed, and then told my supervisor who was also a bit disappointed

Now I'm sad. I didn't want to know that.

Red Scare joke from five years ago

So she's openly doing the whole "ironic" scumbag thing and then getting mad when people perceive her and call her a scumbag? All I have to say is

It's just not that different from 4cham edgyness or whatever. All those jokes are ironic. Everything I do in public that seems to support Israel is making you mad??? Ha gotcha I'm being ironic. Of course I don't support Israel. Just everything I do in public indicates I do. But it's like ironic.

As the saying goes the point of a system is what it does but applied personally. If everything you do supports one side you saying it's ironic is actually not relevant.

She's as pathetic as 4chan types

je n'ai pas le temps

Are they unironically in mourning of a war criminal legislator?

No. They're ironically doing it because they think they look hot doing so.

Big Yikes

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Uh, I support evil things out of ✨Pragmatism✨, which makes me a good person, actually

> claims to be a pragmatist
> still eats Ls like no tomorrow

Doubling down

Ok girl, but consider for a moment that the genocide is real, and the shit the gamer gate chuds were mad about...was fake

Contrapoints is morphing into the harry potter terf lady. At least contrapoints isn’t a billionaire.

Natanyahu can just stop posting about this. just stop being insufferable and stop acting like the victim.

Damn I’d dislocate my spine if I tried to reach that far

What a fucking bozo

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