How many Europeans own their homes.
(midwest.social)
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How do so many people own a home? There's no way that's right. How is this being counted? Is this a percentage of adults? Does it take the number of home owners and divide it by the number of adults in the country? Does it count adult children living in their parents homes as "owners"?
I need to see some methodology.
Commieblocks
wat?
Commie block buildings were sold by the unit after the fall of communism in Europe. If ownership of those counts (seems likely) than that means a higher percentage of home owners than western Europe, where apartment complexes are usually rentals only.
my honest reaction to this:
To be fair, you too can own a house if you're willing to settle for what the average house in Russia is like. In-fact you can often get the house for free and only have to pay for the plot.
That's just not true. Most permanently inhabited houses/apartments in Russia are quite well-built and well-insulated because otherwise you wouldn't make it through the winter. They may be ugly as fuck but you can't get anything similarly well-built in western europe for less than 100k in the middle of nowhere, and most people can't really afford that (how are you going to pay the mortgage if you are in the middle of nowhere?)
If you settle for the "european-quality" home or apartment with more cracks than walls and a slightly leaky roof, sure, you can probably afford it (which I actually plan to do at some point). But most people prefer to rent than to live in a place like that.
Most permanently inhabited houses/apartments in Russia are quite well-built and well-insulated because otherwise you wouldn't make it through the winter
No they're not. They're cold as fuck and heated by a single gas or coal stove in the middle of one room. They can't afford insulation, and good building materials can't be shipped to the middle of nowhere.
That isn't true at all. I'm not from the area, but I was watching a guy recently discussed the town he lived in. It was a series of giant apartment complexes from long ago.
They're insulated from the ground by standing on stilts because they have to be otherwise they'd melt the permafrost and sink. They also have centralized heating that gets pumped each of the buildings.
It's a giant-ass country man, there's probably lots of ways to live. I'm not going to claim all of them are great but they clearly don't all resemble what you're talking about.
Dude you are talking out of your ass. I have lived in plenty of apartments and houses in middle of nowhere Russia and on average they're much better built and insulated than even modern houses and apartments in Spain or France (can't speak for Germany). Besides, almost all apartment blocks even in tiny towns have central heating and not an individual stove, just for efficiency reasons.
Because, once again, you will fucking freeze to death if your house is not well-insulated and it's -35 outside.
Slave labour doesn't build better construction. You're not really a Stalinist are you?
how was bulding homes "slave work"? do your propagandized ass know eastern block had best worker rights in entire human history?
You're thinking of the White House or Ivy league universities. Not Russian apartments.
Most housing units in Russia are apartments in "Khruschevkas", built long after Stalin. They look really ugly, and the quality is not amazing but it's actually pretty good if you renovate it properly. Speaking to a couple people who worked construction during the period (friends of my parents), both of them were quite happy with the salary and benefits back then, and they still live in Khruschevkas they helped to build themselves so that's kinda nice.
BTW, "Stalinkas" (apartment blocks built for communal living during Stalin's time) are actually revered as literally the best housing options in both Moscow and St Petersburg due to thick walls, high ceilings, good floor planning and high-quality building materials. I'm not pro-Stalin, I think he's the second worst leader of USSR (after Gorbachev). That said the quality of construction was actually pretty good back then, even though there may have been some near-slave-level labor used to build them.
are you a trostkyist?
Why have you lived in plenty of apartments and houses in middle of nowhere Russia? Even average Russians haven't lived in plenty of places.
I was born & grew up in a small town in Russia (we moved apartments twice during that time), moved to Moscow to study (had to move apartments there as well), then spent a year in St. Petersburg, then came back to a small village next to my hometown where I lived in my grandparent's house and started to build my own. (in the end I had to flee the country when the government started to crack down on any opposition)
It's not an unreasonable amount of times to move.
My old bosses dacha sounded nice until he pointed out how cold it could get in the winter as it was essentially only heated by a stove. I guess it's nice for a summer getaway from the big city - a bit better than a tent.
41% of dutch houses are rental. Then there are people that own more than 1 house. There's no way 68% owns a house here.
41% of dutch houses are rental.
But, according to statistics only about 30 % of all people in NL do rent their home https://www.statista.com/statistics/544680/tenants-among-population-netherlands/
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/de/web/interactive-publications/housing-2025
Ok.. so that means there's a lot of vacancies? And I am assuming this doesn't account for people living longer with their parents cause they can't afford rent/buying.
Or a bias towards single person households living in a rental. Apartments are probably more likely to be rented, and single person households are usually going to be in an apartment.
That (ai?) image of a 'European' home doesn't give me great confidence in the map. I live in a communally owned, non-profit apartment complex which is common where I'm from. So I'm guessing that counts toward red in this map.
does having a mortgage count as owning a home?
Sure, you own a little bit more of it with every mortgage payment.
You own 100% of your home the moment you sign the purchase. The mortgage is a loan that you have to pay or you'll stop owning your home.
Ah sweet I love these kinds of maps that show which countries are better than others!
Now do income inequality, life expectancy, and democracy.
Now do income inequality, life expectancy, and democracy.
you can post them, whats your point exactly?
oof, wonder what sources they used
no shot it's accurate for Poland
https://www.statista.com/statistics/246355/home-ownership-rate-in-europe/
thanks, now I can check where they took data from
Their source is Eurostat
Ah, it seems to be the same data, yes.
cries in swiss. I think it's even lower than that. In order to buy a home for 1 million you need 200k equity and an income of 180k to get the credit. And a million swiss franc (1.2 million dollar) is not even a lot..
Makes a lot of sense. The more "prosperous" countries aren't really prosperous for most people.
We actually decided against buying a home, because we are still young and our family is still growing, so we don't know what we need in ten years from now. Also, we know that our needs will change once the kids have moved out, so getting something permanent (or at least less flexible) doesn't make sense right now. Of course, a bought home can also be sold again so it's not completely permanent, but it's much more easy to switch to a different rental. And then, it seems like ETFs are a potentially better investment than real estate right now, so why put money into real estate?
All that being said, we are living in a "right to dwell" system right now that is different from rental in that you can't be evicted as long as you pay rent. So the owner of the building can't just throw you out for other reasons. So it's different from a normal rental where the landlord basically can make up all kinds of reasons to get you out.
I guess it depends if you have a maximum number of kids your planning on. But a family of four is pretty likely to stay put for at least 10 years which should be long enough to iron out any short term fluctuations in the market. I'm not overly worried by the slight dip in valuation since I bought my last house because a) I have somewhere for my family to live that is secure and b) whenever we do eventually sell the capital will cover the next house.
How many of those owned homes don't even have a toilet?
How many of those homeowners have alcoholic liver disease?
What other eastern european stereotypes/social ills should we call out here?
I think the numbers used to be higher, but they get shipped off to die in Ukraine before the liver disease kicks in.
my god, you're dumb
Hey, want to know a good way to boost those home ownership numbers even higher?
Dead Russians lmaoooooo 🤣
