What about the woke mind virus?

Prayer has a hundred percent cure rate for that.

Yes, but…what about bringing back eradicated diseases with anti-vaxxing? Ain't that a miracle.

I prayed for god to eradicate or decimate those diseases, and he in his infinite wisdom created scientists to do so.

Checkmate atheists.

That's why I light this and pray to St. Carl of Ithaca every night.

I grew up in the church, they will tell you that since a human(s) eradicated a disease, it was clearly god that worked through them. They always have a workaround bullshit answer

Given that that were true; their god also created the disease and is responsible for all the suffering. Their god is still at a net negative.

This is also true when Epsteiner auctions off a 13 year old

They can't see a bad guy without trying to be them.

I mean if we accept the hypothesis that God exists, and that he created humans, he created them with a reason.

That reason? Kill off every living thing god created.

But didn’t he create it all for us though? Which then becomes a good excuse for us to consume it all.

I mean, we're supposed to be stewards according to the teachings, but all those dumbass children hear is, "hey this is yours ..." and just kinda space off the rest of everything said...

exactly, that's why arguments like the one in this meme doesn't work

No rationale argument works on the irrational. The goal is to plant the seeds of rational thought. To appeal to people who aren't completely gone, yet. The meme works perfectly fine.

Had a buddy mention that his friend has cancer and was talking about "I don't think this doctor is good for me I'm thinking about switching to this other one" and he stopped her and said

"Well when are you going to give it to the real doctor. Jesus?" And went on to say basically don't even worry about it or explore other doctors just put it all in gods hands!

I fucking hate religion.

first thought that came to mind.

I'm too tired to be mad about this or the changes that will happen to remind people of how important science is...

But I can always see in my minds eye, some future leader saying. "There's no way we could have known."

And that keeps me at a simmer.

  1. Thought
  2. Empathy
  3. Compassion
  4. Humanity
  5. Caring
  6. Not abusing other people
  7. Not raping children
  8. Loving thy neighbor
  9. Not murdering people who believe something else
  10. Letting people be who they are unmolested

Ethics exist independently of any deities even if they did exist.

If ethics didn't exist separately, and God is actually the source of good, then we would have a lot of logical paradoxes to solve.

For instance, let's assume God is who defines goodness and educates us on it, and goodness does not exist without God.

Thus, we recognize we don't have inherent ability to define what's good or bad. But that also means we can't prove God is good, because we already recognized only God can define what's good.

I might have butchered the logical fallacy a bit, logic is hard, but I remember it roughly being stated this way.

You mean to say that the only thing keeping you from r*ping children is fear of God?

It's the only thing stopping them, and it's not even working.

Is this supposed to be in the prayer category?

No this is the list of things religion has eradicated

Agreed, but sadly the religious people don't see it that way (as I'm sure you know, I just hate how disillusioned they are).

Social diseases.

Well #10 is kind of a gimme; molestation is sort of their whole thing.

couldn't have said it better myself

To be fair, you wouldn’t know the diseases that are eradicated by prayer since they’re stripped from our timeline when looking backwards.

There could be dozens of them!

Well, I don't see too many demon-possessed people or witches around today, do you?

I see some witches around sometimes

I do have a witch friend, their population is tiny though

Or dragons.

And that's supposed to be a good thing?

Or tigers!

Well that's a fundamental misunderstanding of science if I've ever seen one.

Which ones were eradicated & which ones were decimated? Getting rid of 10% of a disease doesn't sound super effective.

Maybe in January of 2020 we should have told everyone to stay home and pray for three or four months.

As per science, prayer (or anything "metaphysical" can't be measured, as it has no physics or physical evidence)....

....so effects of prayer can't be measured/known. I guess that means it's theoretical, unprovable.

That which is presented without evidence can be dismissed the same way.

Prayer and the CIA, however, are gtrwat at spreading them and undermining these efforts.

Oh, when you look at miracles, they do heal a lot! Some of it is even scientifically proven IIRC. Human mind is a funny thing.

But in all cases, faith works on small scale, and quite often simply individual. So yeah...not even a start to science.

There’s no way to scientifically measure faith or miracles as you’re describing. Saying “miracles do heal a lot” is an absurdly meaningless statement.

On the other hand, there is some evidence that people don’t work as hard at their own recovery when they believe people are praying for them, so believing in mumbo jumbo can actually hurt you.

But in all cases, faith works on small scale

so you're saying it's not statistically significant then? makes sense, most farces aren't

I mean, true. But at worst, faith worsk as a placebo, forcing our minds and bodies to fight harder for some unkown reason. At best, there were unexplainable cases. May as well assume it's faith until proven otherwise.

In all cases, statistically insignificant xD

But at worst, faith worsk as a placebo

No. At worst faith will be the reason a parent don't bring their child to an actual doctor, which causes unnecessary suffering or death of an innocent child. Faith should be countered everywhere and every time.

Nobody should be expected to believe in faith. Religions claim that something is true so it is on them to prove it. But it cannot be proven thus their claim should not be given due consideration. So the assumption is that science is real and religion is not.

We may as well believe in science I guess.

What even is science if not a cult of cause and effect?

This may help answer your question

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/science

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