I'm not sure how much of this is my difficulty with the health care system due to autism vs an overall issue related to healthcare for people who menstruate but I'd like to have a little rant. I hope this is okay to post on this community given that it's not exclusive to women but I do think it's a byproduct of misogyny in healthcare.

About a decade ago in my early 30s I went to the doctor about irregular but heavy and painful periods. I got a referral to a gynecologist who ordered ultrasounds, but nothing abnormal was found. I had been on various forms of hormonal birth control for around 15 years at that point and when my IUD was due for removal, I stopped. They thought maybe my body was adjusting to ending the BC or maybe it was a very early perimenopause so the plan was to "keep an eye on it".

I have not had consistent medical care throughout my life. A misunderstanding led to my belief that annual physicals were no longer available (in reality they have changed and are called "Periodic Health Visits" now) so I simply haven't had one ever as an adult until this year. I've moved to a different city and have a different doctor. I saw they were an available appointment type so I booked one.

Turns out I have a rather extreme case of vitamin D deficiency and this is known to be associated with irregular and painful periods.

When I mentioned my periods and suspicion it was perimenopause to my current doctor during this health check he kind of shrugged, but to his credit he had ordered a broad range of tests based on our discussion so in retrospect I understand not wanting to guess at things until he had the results back.

I can't say for sure when the vitamin deficiency started. I don't know if it is the cause. I'm just really disappointed that I wasn't tested for it earlier. I found some old lab results from around the time I first brought it up: one from two years prior when I had cyclospora (how topical, lol) and one from the same time as the ultrasound. Neither included a test for vitamin D. Even with my current testing I think it was included because of an injury I had last year and the radiologist notes on the X-ray indicating potential bone loss.

I typically have one or two nights of sleeping less than 3 hours each time I have a period. This is a result of the pain or "feeling wrong" so strongly that I cannot relax. I can't help but wonder what an improved quality of life I would have had if this was caught earlier. There are other impacts low Vit D has likely had, but this one is currently driving me mad because it appears to be a well established correlation. I understand doctors are overworked and only human but it still sucks.

I don't recall if it was my previous doctor or the gynocologist who mentioned that these problems weren't immediately concerning because I wasn't trying to have children. It's uncharitable, but this makes me think that menstrual concerns are not a concern to general medicine unless it impacts the ability to make babies. This is why I consider it a result of misogyny. (If you are able to suggest a better word that reflects that not all women have periods and not all people who have periods are women please don't hesitate to correct me in the comments. I could use the assist.)

I now know I have trouble quantifying and communicating my pain levels as a result of differences related to autism but I didn't know I was autistic back then. Therefore when doctors shrug something off I just assumed I was wrong and was being a wimp 🤷‍♀️ . Maybe if I didn't have these challenges they would understand that it has deeply impacted my life and more investigation would have been done.

Thanks for the space to rant. I hope that this will also help other people who may have mysterious menstrual issues and haven't looked at this potential cause yet.

I have PCOS and Endo, I've been dismissed and invalidated my whole life. I know women that have died due to sexism in medicine. I've seen them misdiagnosed and called hysterical. Missed cancer because she's being dramatic and its not that bad. They probably still teach that women feel less pain in medical school, like they say about black people. It's bullshit. Advocate for yourselves and don't give up, don't let them gaslight you if you know something is wrong. Report and find new doctors, keep at it. Could be your life at stake.

I can identify with doctors shrugging you off, not feeling like you communicated well enough, or like you're blowing things out of proportion.

I had very similar experiences dealing with period pain and cycling through doctors and medications. It's rough, and it took me a while to understand my treatment was due to misogyny inherent in the system.

You're not wrong, you did everything you could, and it took a lot of hard work to get where you are. You deserve to be happy and healthy.

Damn, seems like such a simple thing to test for. Ought to be standard practice. I didn't know it could have an effect on menstruation, either, never heard of it, despite having had terrible periods for decades. Yeeted the uterus in my 50s, bye Felicia! But it would have been helpful to know. I can't help thinking it's because there's no big profit in it.

It's just a blood test! I am in Ontario, Canada and it is only covered when the patient has:

  • Osteoporosis and Osteopenia
  • Rickets
  • Malabsorption Syndromes
  • Renal Disease
  • Patients on medications that affect vitamin D metabolism.

I just looked up the cost from a local lab and it's $78. I would not have been a financial hardship to pay for this. Being off work for several months (cause likely exasperated by the deficiency) is orders of magnitude more expensive. I have been on lithium in the past so I don't see how there would have been an issue ordering it given the potential for bone loss while on the drug (I had to get bone scans anyways).

I will reserve my rant about the absurd challenges in accessing surgical options for birth control or gender affirming hysterectomy but I am happy you were able to yeeterus.

I need a shirt with a cartoon uterus flying thru the air with a shocked look that says yeeterus

I've shared many of your experiences.

I started peri menopause not long after I stopped taking drugs and doing sex work. I struggled with depression at that time, too, and my weight was ballooning.

Doctors were no fucking use at all. Because of my health history, outside of the STD clinic I was treated like something that was stuck to the bottom of their shoe.

In the end I paid to get complete set of blood tests done for myself at 4 points during my cycle, and then shoved the results under the nose of a private GP. An actual diagnosis was a big help, and I felt motivated to start exercising so that my bones didn't weaken.

Once periods had mostly stopped I went on HRT, but again I got bad advice from an NHS GP and was given only enough to keep me alive ... it's only thanks to trans ladies on Lemmy that I actually got the right combo for HRT to feel 100% like myself again, last year.

So, tl;dr - we've gotta take our own initiative to get proper sound medical care. By supporting each other, and advocating for ourselves with the medical system!

I'm so glad you found a dose that works and I'm sorry to hear of your experiences.

It disgusts me how often moral judgements about the patient impacts their access to care. I can't decide which is worse: totally unfounded judgement or denying someone care knowing they are at risk because of their history. Either way 👎

I absolutely hate that I've paid for private healthcare related to ADHD/autism but I couldn't wait another year after my first referral was cancelled because the Dr left the practice. I have a feeling I'll be doing it again for menopause 😭

Yeah, one of the positives of moving to another country is that my medical history is a blank slate here. When healthcare providers don't know, you suddenly get treated much better ... I've still had to advocate for myself in order to get care a couple of times, but it wasn't malicious.

If you're in the UK I feel for you, the NHS is, from what I hear through friends and relatives, a complete shitshow. Private was the way for me.

My heart goes out to trans people there, too, because they're really getting shit upon in much the same way I was ... and they haven't even done anything illegal like I did!

Canada but similar situation. The public healthcare system is being systemically dismantled and blamed on the professionals themselves in some cases while private options keep popping up. I can afford it but I feel like I am part of the problem.

Anyone seeking gender/reproductive care or mental health care is in the same fight I am in so I can only see them as my comrade. It's not a zero sum game and I'm not interested in being divided and conquered.

Yup, it seems like all the capitalist assholes are singing from the same hymn sheet now :-(

I'm so sorry you had that experience. I've found that doctors just don't take women's symptoms seriously way too often.

Thank you for the sympathy. An awful combo of being socialized to not complain and lack of training/research in the medical field to help guide clinicians.

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