The hate in these comments is abhorrent. This guy was literally a victim of gay conversion therapy before he preached it. He renounced all of it in 2008 and has been married to a man for 12 years now. People change y'all, and this guy changed for the better. Celebrate that

What has he done to reconcile all the lives he's ruined

That is the cool thing about propaganda. It keeps ruining lives long after you changed your opinion.

A monk decided to meditate alone, away from his monastery.

He took his boat out to the middle of the lake, moored it there, closed his eyes and began meditating. After a few hours of undisturbed silence, he suddenly felt the bump of another boat colliding with his own.

With his eyes still closed, he felt his anger rising, and by the time he opened his eyes, he was ready to scream at the boatman who had so carelessly disturbed his meditation. But when he opened his eyes, he was surprised to find that it was an empty boat that had struck his own. It had probably gotten untethered and floated to the middle of the lake.

At that moment, the monk had a great realization.

that he was gonna have to go launch a whole investigation to find out who the boat belonged to and who didn't tie it up securely so that he could tell at the correct person?

This is my new favorite way to say "Google it lmao"

I would say demonstrating he was wrong publicly every day for the last 12 years is a fucking solid service to society

I hope he reached out as much as possible to all the people he preached to tell them how wrong he was and apologized. No he didn't? Oh well, at least he looks happy.

Conversion therapy is a form of torture. It's as stupid as expecting someone to change their blue eyes, to green eyes. You can't blame people for genetics, and you cannot just decide, as a blue eyed person, that you are now a green eyed person. It's not a decision, there is no therapy or medication or surgery to "fix" what is not broken. It's just abuse.

We have already been through this with Left Handers. Being left handed is normal. Gay people are normal. Religion does not exist to help people, it's purpose is to control people.

Thank you for attending my Ted Talk.

Growing up in the USSR they forced everyone to write with our right hand. You get beaten if you don't. Was really hard for my cousin because he's left handed. He just learned to fake it for the teachers.

This was common globally (yes, even the US and Europe) until frankly frighteningly recently

It happened to me and I'm not even 40 yet, and yes I'm from Europe

How did he fake being right-handed?

I'm naturally right-handed and I've tried to do things left-handed before and it is insanely difficult, maddening really.

Developing ambidextrous talent I guess. I remember when they are watching he'd use right, then switch to left for the rest and homework.

Finally, a Ted Talk that didn't suck.

If you count Apollo Robbin's and that guy with the spam mail rant (which really is quite fun) that brings the count up to... three?

I agree that it's a form of torture, but someone can't ever have eyes be a different color because of the trauma. People do act like and belive they're straight because of the trauma forced upon them from conversation therapy.
They also often gain hatred of those who are like they "used to be", and there's no real mirror for that in eye color.
And just to be clear, I say none of this to minimise the horrors of conversation therapy.

Did they renounce their cult and do anything at all to help the victims?

Or are they pretending "progressive christian" is a valid ideology, forgiving themselves and moving on without actually fixing any of the root problems?

Pastors are not good people. They make their living lying to people and almost never face accountability for it. They just shift the lie to suit their needs at the time, at everyone's expense.

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Usually the ones loudest about the gay thing are in the closet. It's because they feel a certain way when they think about it. Then they feel shame because of their backwards ass religion and overcompensate with a bunch of other in the closet religious nuts.

I actually had a friend sorta like this! He never went gay bashing or anything or he wouldn't be my friend but if anybody asked if he was gay or made any inkling he'd freak tf out! He'd also be super weird and uncomfortable if there was anybody gay around when most of us really didn't give a shit one way or the other. I'm not talking about somebody hitting on him, just "this person is gay" and he'd get all uncomfortable and weird. This was middle school to highschool btw so maturity levels should be taken into account.

Years later he came out as bi. Good on him for working on his inner demons I guess.

My theory is they assume everyone else has gay thoughts like they do, so every man married to a woman resisted the urge to go balls deep in their homies, instead choosing to get married to a woman they aren't attracted to and have children as their show of devotion to God. Because they're so sexually repressed, and only talk about how gay their thoughts are while getting fucked by their other gay religious friends, they never put 2 and 2 together that most people actually don't have an attraction to the same sex the way they do.

I don't think that homophobes have to be closeted to be envious of queer folk who are being true to themselves and not living a life of conformity. Of course some of them are though.

I’ve found that what I’m most critical of other people is what I’m most critical of in myself.

And this was learned behavior from insecurities of the people around me while I was growing up.

if this is true, then why am I not genocidal against people who can’t get none

I think it means like on a personal level

Apology not accepted, happy for you tho

Do we allow him at pride?

Part of me wants to say yes but like also I feel like the fucker needs to repent.

Only if he does actual work to undo the bad stuff and makes it his mission to spread gay acceptance within his religion, and I doubt that's the case.

So, he got the gay cure after all

The gays got to him!

I got a fever, and the only cure, is more gay!

I wonder if the people who suffered for his bigotry will forgive him

Fuck that guy

I was trying to find an article to verify this info and this was in the top results:

https://sfl.media/former-gay-cure-ministry-leader-arrested-after-allegedly-trying-to-meet-14-year-old-boy-in-florida-sting/

This is the article I could find about a "gay cure" pastor having a gay marriage:

https://gay.blog.br/en/gay-en/former-pastor-who-preached-gay-cure-now-lives-in-marriage-with-another-man/

It might be a different pastor tho?

I think both articles are different people. It appears this guys name is John Smid https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Smid

Looks like it, thanks for the assist!

I didn't think the first article was him, but it is just another instance of a "beacon of morality (Christian pastor)" trying to commit one of the greatest evils. Great documentation to show people who think "secularism" indicates a lack of morality.

there’s a great documentary about a case like this called ‘this is what love in action looks like’

wikipedia

Talk about a redemption arc

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