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LinuxI am just going to tell you guys a story of my linux journey, if you are interested, you can read.
So i have a laptop, which have intel i3 7020U, 4gb RAM and a 256gb of storage. Windows 10 lagged a lot on my laptop and windows 11 was even not available for it. So i switched to the iot ltsc version, still no difference. Then i switched to ubuntu my first ever linux experience. It was very fast, snappy, i started to love it but i leaved it, because my touchpad was not working very well on it (yeah i just leaved it for some touchpad issue) then i tried linux mint, zorin and fedora, the touchpad had the same issue. Unless i switched to opensuse, my touchpad worked great on it. After some days i just got bored and i wanted to distro hope again and i found out fedora just got a new update and the touchpad was working great! I remained there for 2-3 days but i hated gnome experience Even on a laptop. So i switched to mint and then zorin and then i thought to try something new. I tried Arch. I used kde with it, and i just loved it the most. First two install of arch was manual and then after that all the installations was using archinstall. I have reinstalled arch 100+ times i don't know i just like to do that. I tried xfce, i stayed on hyprland for so much time, i tried lxqt, and so much, Then shifted to kde again. And one day on fmhy i find a index of linux distros in which cachyos was ranking out of every distro. I just tried it and what the hell it was sooo fast, I just don't know what to say but i am still on it (i have reinstalled it like 20 times) but I love cachyos from my heart. On my laptop with that specs i hit 200+ fps on minecraft in max settings and max chunks which is great.
I even recommended linux to my friend, now my one friend use Arch and he doesn't want to switch to cachy because he didn't like the name :). And on my friend laptop i installed cachyos and he is loving it so far he said this laptop was unusable and now works super fast
it's super snappy and fast isn't it?
I've never gotten CachyOS to run well. I've tried a few times and it's either updated at some point to an unbootable situation or I had to try installing 2-3 times with different bootloader, FDE, and DE options before it would comply.
I work for a living, so having a more stable, tested platform is important to me. Fedora KDE always just works for me and is reasonably up-to-date with the latest mesa, kernel, etc.
Then i switched to ubuntu my first ever linux experience. It was very fast, snappy
Coming off Windows, even modern Ubuntu feels "snappy" (nice I see what you did there).
Will never understand such lines of thinking
I have reinstalled arch 100+ times i don't know i just like to do that.
But why do you reinstall so much? I don't understand 🤔
I just like it. Possibly you also like something which can sound stupid to someone and fun to someone, and for me it is fun ;)
Doing the exact same thing over and over again with no reason to be doing it doesn't sound very fun... Usually I can understand why someone might enjoy something.
When I was a student I had a period when trying different installations was fun. Disto hopping or reinstalling can be a nice hobby.
I can understand distro hopping, to try to find the best suited for you. But why reinstall the same system if it's working? That I really don't get.. But to each their own I guess!
I'm with you here, I've never done the over-and-over installation myself but since you can take different paths with Arch, I can see someone enjoy exploring those paths.
Yeah the main thing I liked about arch is I could have the same install on a system for like 5 years. I installed basically everything so I knew how everything worked and could tinker.
Since you liked Fedora but not GNOME, sounds like Bazzite or Fedora KDE could have worked out well too. Just something to consider if you want something more stable and less cutting edge
I can't understand where this "unstable" image comes from. Just because it's a rolling distro? I've been on CachyOS for over a year now. I update on most days I'm using the system (which is also most days). I had basically no issues. I have significantly less issues with it than I have with Debian on my servers!
Did you have a negative experience with CachyOS or arch in general? Or are you just repeating what you heard?
I think the issues are more likely to happen if you update less frequently. I used an Arch distro on my secondary PC for a few months. I admit I never ran into any major breaking issues, but every week or so when I did an update it sure felt like I would run into an issue since the updates were massive. I didn't even have that much installed. Also reading through PKGBUILD and changelogs was annoying, but if you didn't do it and ran into an issue the forums would just blame you for not reading them.
So while I didn't run into any major issues myself, I could sense that maintaining it was more work than I wanted. And later on I read this lemmy post which validated my decision: Realizing Arch isn't for me after updating broke VLC.
Compare this to the update process of Bazzite. It happens in the background, and automatically applies when you reboot. You don't even need to be aware of it. You can easily rollback if something breaks. And it's pretty guaranteed to be stable because all Bazzite users have the same base, so it's well tested before being released.
I also have a laptop that runs CachyOS, and I use that very infrequently. So whenever I do, it's a sizable update (still runs through faster than a normal windows update though). That system also never had any issues, and also "just works". Like you say, you also never had any (real?) issues. Just having a "feeling something might break" doesn't actually means it's unstable either, just that you're scared it might be, while it actually isn't. It's obviously fine if that then isn't a distro you want to use, but don't call it unstable if it has been perfectly stable for you? Do you know why you have that feeling, and could it maybe just be that it's people always just saying "it's unstable", perpetuating that "feeling"? I can also imagine that it was much less stable in the past, or there may be phases that are less stable, but I just got lucky and the last year happened to be rather stable in comparison.
I personally don't have an issue with the reading of PKGBUILDs when I'm using the AUR, as I have like 2 packages from there or something, which also update comparatively infrequently. Everything else is base repo (CachyOS or Arch) and if there are Arch news you should obviously read those, but that happenes so rarely it's really not an issue either (for me), and usually it's there for a good reason like the recent AUR vulnerabilities. As for normal changelogs, I assume for packages in the main repos, I don't even know where to find them. Never needed to read them either.
Its unstable as a target platform for development. You never know when it will break API/ABI compatibility. It's why most containers target Ubuntu, Debian, Alpine, and UBI. The versions can be locked and you can be assured that your software won't randomly break one day after and update.
For some reason people have taken that as being unstable to use as a system, which hasn't been the case for me either.
I agree that that's a perfectly fine reason for container base images, but has nothing to do with my normal desktop system. Or 99% of peoples normal desktop systems. The question there is only "does my stuff work", and at least for me the answer is "yes". That's the context of this thread (at least how I understood it).
Maybe that really is the real source of the instability claims. I mean I'm not setting up my KVM virtualization server on a CachyOS-install, but honestly even if I did I'm not sure I'd actually run into issues. Or just use Arch directly for that, which quite a few people also do. I have no idea how often those have issues, I assume they wouldn't stick with Arch if they did, but I truly have no idea about the practicality of that.
The reason I'm asking is that literally every source you look at for comparison of linux distros will tell you "unstable" for CachyOS and/or Arch. It has been the literal opposite experience for me: I have significantly fewer issues getting stuff to work (which is also a form of stability) compared to Debian on my servers. I wouldn't say I'm angry about being misled, but I'm certainly still confused where the claims can come from...
Bazzite is more like a distro for consoles and for only gaming. Fedora, i don't have a strong reason to not to use it, but i just don't like fedora from my heart
What kind of touchpad issue did you run into?
If each install takes 10mins you have installed 200 times that is 2000mins or ~34 hours.
When you say fast you mean while gaming getting more fps or do you just mean when on desktop and changing Windows/starting applications?
Both. Edit: i am not very much into gaming, i just installed minecraft for benchmarking (And i didn't purchased it because it costs more than $0 ;)
For me gaming on Cachy is literally faster than it was on windows 10. Of course everything is snappy, it’s Linux, but gaming was very noticeable.
It's quite excellent even on some pretty old hardware, but I've had a couple middle aged laptops consistently fail during installation but I put zero effprt into diagnostics as it was mainly just trying for the hell of it.
Its my desktop daily driver though and its probably going to stay that way for the foreseeable future
does Cachy use AUR?
It can through paru but it's reccomended to use the cachyos repo through pacman
Yes they use aur also recompiled aur packages i think
Yes. Comes with paru preinstalled.
