MeanwhileOnGradThe term Tankie has a clear definition that Cowbee likes to ignore:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tankie
Tankie is a pejorative label generally applied to authoritarian communists, especially those who support or defend acts of repression by such regimes, their allies, or deny the occurrence of the events thereof.
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I'm banned from a bunch of places cuz of an interaction with cowbee. If you haven't checked out the account it's kinda wild, like 20k posts in two years or something. Averaging like 30 posts a day, every single day, for two years.
Some might think they're a paid ccp shill or something but I think they just do it for the love of the game. Always feel vindicated when I see other posts calling out cowbee's shit.
It's kinda sad when you look at it that way. I couldn't imagine being that online. I couldn't imagine being that online and still having time to engage with my actual life. And when you factor in the complete political weightlessness of their beliefs in reality, it just, damn. I couldn't imagine putting that much effort into an online "movemen"t of like 100 people. The herculean task of moving a hamster wheel.
Glad someone else has noticed the uptick of this stuff, I saw a "meme" that basically said they are against Israel and Ukraine??
Ukraine, much like Palestine, wants to mind their own business but can't because they're being invaded. How do you hate Israel but also support Russia? It's madness.
I filtered out .ml.
I just got so sick of the constant pro-China bullshit, and their disingenuous arguments
They are a disinformation cesspool and don't hesitate to brigade.
Cowbee was the first username I learned to recognize. This shit is either his job, or there are multiple people running it, or even both.
My Lemmy experience has been a lot better since filtering .ml.
Using less effort and time with each step. The point is to waste their time/energy for a laugh:
- Step 0. They give some BS about your comment/post
- Step 1. Recognize their BS.
- Step 2. Directly call them out on it.
- Step 3. Refuse to engage with the change of subject.
- Step 4. Refer them to step 2 in future comments.
I've said it before, but what kind of braindead retard unironically supports the Russian Federation. Like bro, the country is not only an authoritarian shithole, but it's also weak and on the verge of collapse. If you're gonna submit yourself to warlords, at least pick a winning side.
The whole point is that communism is anti imperialism. The US is the empire and Russia is fighting it, ergo they support Russia. Despite Russia itself being an empire
Why though? There's nothing communist about the Russian federation at all.
Soviet Union was "communist", and it used very authoritarian methods. Tankies have worked a lot in order to justify USSR's authoritarianism and grave inequality. The Russia is directly continuing the same methods, and therefore all the "justification" applies to the Russia as well.
Tankies were okay with those means in 1960's, and they are okay with the same means in 2020's. Regardless of the underlying economic system.
But there is the authoritarian part. They love to lick the boot.
Like saying the Nazis were actually socialists. But nominally the Russian Federation is theoretically a democracy. A democracy that is an oligarchy and kleptocracy in which the same candidate will always win, the opposition is mostly token, and is in fact an authoritarian dictatorship.
Tell that to a tankie.
I find it very hard to believe, given CowBee's constant proselytizing, that they do not understand the distinction being made here.
I guarantee you they 100% understand. They simply don't care and are just being dishonest. They believe the ends justify the means.
almost like words don't mean anything to them...that kinda reminds me of this other group of extremists that don't care what words mean! almost like they've got something in common or something....
tankie doesn't mean "communist", it means red fascist.
and cowbee thinks, by his own admission, that's the same thing.
That sweet Kremlin dough...
I mean he's not what they call a useful idiot.
You think cowbee is being paid by the kremlin?
In some way yes, and/or China.
You'd be astonished how many people went to Moscow just as "tourists", especially before the 2022 full scale invasion of Ukraine. And got favours, got baited, and so on. Tim Pool (one example just on top of my head) got millions of dollars, we know because he got caught.
The kremlin can literally spread dissent by paying thousands of dollars which is insanely cheap, and that's what they have always done so no "news" here.
They do it for the love of the game.
Or being paid by parties in the US who want to make "Communism" look bad.
I think that's the real source for a lot of tankie bullshit.
Well following communist ideology doesn't mean you have to be a bootlicker for authoritarian states! No excuse honestly
like how thier are "true conservatives"
It's hilarious reading their "arguments" and then posting facts they can only handle by banning you. The delusion dripping out of these "people" is so sad and painful to watch. Holding up America to make China or Russia look better is just like holding one turd to make the other look better.
All tankies are communists (purportedly), but not all communists are tankies. Tankies believe in Stalin-style militant communism, and will do or say anything to support their ends regardless of if it's objectively true or not. They will deny all harms that are caused by anyone who claims to be a communist.
Basically they're MAGA in a different claimed direction.
And Nancy Pelosi was a progressive.
Tankies are really bad communists tho. They support countries with an authoritarian elite that crush their own public. Thats not in the spirit of the ideology at all.
Yeah, the countries purged communists immediately
Basically they're MAGA in a different claimed direction.
You mean...like....."BlueMAGA" LMAO they were the bluemaga all along lolol
Projection all the way down lol
Wait…pretty sure contemporary Russia is CINO and even then just barely as they’ve gone capitalist in the ‘90s. I could understand the pedantics if it was expressly the USSR (Don’t agree with it, as an anarchist obvs, but still) or “critical support” for China, but here-and-now Russia?
Always has been 🌍👨🚀🔫🧑🚀
Communism is classless and stateless. Somehow I find it hard to believe when the political class from a given state says they're communist.
strangely you would think they welcome anarchy, but they dont.
Well yes if communism was actually their goal. The problem with these revolutions is that they never actually end. And they try to govern via revolution as well. All change to the revolution becomes counter-revolution and therefore the enemy. Ultimately making their goal their enemy.
Lol I like the computer lingo of != But id say it's better to say "isn't".
Sadly, but ml instance has also communities that are focused on non-political themes like tech stuff, so for now it has sense to block each community on ml except the normal ones.
The "normal" ones are also affected.
Whoah... The situation is even worse than I originally thought.
yea i noticed that, its the ml accounts that participate in those politics are the problems.
I haven't really missed any tech stuff although I am subscribed to zero .ml comms.
There's enough activity in the sane parts of the Forumverse.
Blocking all ML is the best solution. They offer nothing
Okay, taking into account that many people here are longer than me and are actually seem to be solid right, why instances then don't simply defederate themselves from ml? Like they have done it with hexbear instance?
The Lemmy developers created .ml making it the "flagship" instance and giving it a high user count unrelated to it's politics. I've also seen some people express fear of some sort of retribution if they defederate from ml, but I personally think that's a bit overblown
Oh the retribution is real. ML are disgraceful humans. But they’ve got accounts on every instance, so the only thing an ml defed would accomplish is fragmentation.
A few have, but it's been brought up before
Some don't want to because it's a "flagship" instance and ther fore has many old comms on it (But on that note, it's only by subscriber count, which never goes down unless a user actually unsubscribes from a comm, so .ml memes might have 50k subscribers, but the absolute vast majority of that is gonna be dead, deleted and maybe even alt accounts, if we go by Monthly Active User metrics like off of lemmyverse.net you'll see that very very few .ml comms still beat their non-ml equivalent.)
Some don't because of fear of retribution from dessalines or at the very least "slow walking" of any issues that might come up, not likely to happen with smaller instances. But if you're as big as say .world, then that could be a potentially huge problem and would be the exact kind of instance dessalines would choose to flex this retribution on as a message.
Some don't because they prefer to have their users decide for themselves (e.g. dbzer0.com) or have an alternative such as lemmy.zip's default block which block the whole triad for new users. Which is fair, there should be instances on the Threadiverse that are unfiltered for uh "Politically thick skinned users" but they should not be put forth to prospective users from Threadiverse advocates looking to bring users from reddit.
And then there are some that do, infosec.pub and Lemmy.cafe are the 2 that come to mind, but I'm sure there are more
Thanks for the info.
Some do. More should.
Many have.
Or, for every community that lacks a mirror on a sane instance, create one.
Well, until these mirrors are created my statement is valid, I guess.
There's a mirror for nearly every .ml comm of note, and in a lot of cases a few different mirrors across a bunch of instances.
For example, linux (in order of size) has !linux@lemmy.world and !linux@programming.dev and !linux@sh.itjust.works and !linux@sopuli.xyz and !linux@discuss.tchncs.de
I also crosspost all (good) .ml content to drive comm activity off .ml to non-ml equivalent comms and whenever I do encounter one that doesn't have a non-mo equivalent I make one
So lmk what .ml comms you peruse and I'll tell you the closest non-ml version or I'll make it myself if it has recent activity or you could also use Lemmyverse.net which is a fantastic tool for Threadiverse comm discovery
Okay, thanks.
Doing gods work man. Let them live in their cesspool alone! Alone and bitter
Be the change you want to see in the world.
You can say the same about 4chan, it's not a great defense.
