Seriously tf did they expect?
(midwest.social)
Lefty MemesShe was dating a merc with nazi tattoos, I won't shed tears for a nazi lover that found out nazis are bad.
If you're willing to date a nazi, you're a nazi too.
And it if utter bullshit that nazi killing brown people is a respectable career choice in America, but we draw the line at hurting a nazi woman.
Rape is bad
Rape is bad. Nazis are bad. I think the moral is: don't date bad people if you don't want bad outcones.
If it's a one night stand, that's bad,
but she knew he was a nazi, she thought nazis are good, she was a nazi.
And nazi lives don't matter
it is, but I y'all decided rape is bad and didn't give a fuck about nazi mercenaries killing brown people for money.
Because you considered a white nazi woman to be worth more than brown people.
and everyone is clutching pearls that I refuse to shed a tear that a nazi lover was hurt. but refuse to acknowledge that every single one of his supporters was a nazi supporter.
A LWer defending rape as long as it's someone they think deserves it.
Why are liberals such fucking disgusting pieces of shit?
"sexual violence against people i dont like" is not, in fact, a good position.
I try to be against being a nazi merc and to be against rape.
The problem is, most people here are only against rape, and are still making excuses for him being a nazi.
It isn't one or the other, I'm with you.
but damn, so many nazi supporters.
All Americans are terrorists by their own admission. I also donât understand the surprise.
If he will lose he should drop out. The world doesnât care either way, youâre all bad.
All Americans are terrorists by their own admission
excuse me? i'm american and i certainly have never admitted to being a terrorist. one of the things i hate about the right wing government i resist is that it fosters and supports the terrorists (ICE, the klan, various incel groups) i've been seeking to undermine since falling victim to their violence. so i have to ask, to what are you referring?
As someone who did defend Platner, I will not shy away from the fact I was wrong. Whether or not he has changed since he was a mercenary really is irrelevant at this point. Rapists, whether reformed or not (and I do not believe be is reformed given his statement), should not hold positions of power. Platner needs to drop out and take accountability.
Platner needs to drop out and take accountability.
As someone who did defend Platner, I will not shy away from the fact I was wrong.
Did we study the same praxisâ˝ Why aren't you vanguarding his dropout right nowâ˝ All of Maine should be out and replacing ALL the rapist candidates with an intersecting class.
Why are you still here, TAKE ACCOUNTABILITYâ˝
You're wrong, no? Go reparate!
This is a crazily aggressive response that makes a lot of arrogant assumptions, and all at someone who is admitting they were wrong about half-heartedly defending a politician. No wonder people never admit when they are wrong.
Because you did not do shit.
You supported a nazi, knowing he was a nazi, because "People can change UWU". Not even because he changed, but because theoretically people can. And all you did what "I acknowledge I was wrong". And? are you in the streets protesting for his resignation? are you doing anything besides telling us you are cool with nazis as long as they don't engage in sexual violence towards white women?
No, you are just trying to get sympathy online with zero praxis.
I was a zionist growing up. I went to Israel when I was 18. I saw apartheid with my own eyes and have been trying to make reparations.
I participate in a local anti-war orgs help organize, protest as often as I can, I write antizionist articles and essays, I organize a local Jewish bund. Why? Because I have to, because I still feel guilty for the things I said when I was 18, because I wont stop feeling guilty until Palestine is free. If I was like you I would say, cool, glad I learned and don't have to do anything about it.
Where the fuck is your accountability?
As far as it sounds, you are a nazi supporter that happens to be against rape.
Admitting being wrong is just useless chatter unless your actions show it.
half-heartedly defending a politician Comrade_Spood
Wait, what's the display name for then?
I am an anarchist, and anti-electoralist. All I have ever done to defend him was say that it is possible he had changed, and that I didnt like when people cherry picked quotes without also showing his later statements on those quotes, and that I was pissed about all these people outside of Maine all of a sudden having something to say about Maine politics.
I do my part in my community. I do not need to add electoral politics to "reparate" onto that list.
sorry, but if at any point in his life he changed, he would have covered up/removed that tattoo. keeping it was a choice he made every day in his life.
that isn't reformed. and giving a Blackwater merc with a nazi tattoos a chance is some MAGA bullshit. but apparently, it's only bad when they have Nazis in their party.
Arguing with someone admitting they were wrong, and doing it as a two part comment, is genuinely insane.
He is saying that he changed is opinion after the rape allegation.
I am saying that is still bullshit because he supported a Blackwater merc with nazi tattoos.
There is still a major difference, No, you don't get points for allowing nazis, but drawing the line at rape
if he changed. then he would have covered up his tattoo way before getting into politics.
there's zero excuse.
no, getting a cover up when called out by the public doesn't count, too late, it should have been by his own agency before national pressure.
Maine dint stand a chance with anyone left of Mills, its either her or collins. Maine needs to choose and verify thier candidates better.
WHY DO LIBERALS KEEP JOINING ANARCHIST /c/Sâ˝ GO VANGUARD EVEN BETTER CANDIDATES THAT AREN'T EITHERS. THIS IS YOUR TIME TO JUSTIFIABLY REVOLT.
There comes a point where it feels like people online are screaming at the collective will of the voters themselves. Chuck Schumer endorsed Mills, so that would have absolutely been the establishment choice. She was polling so poorly and having such a hard time raising money that she dropped out. The people wanted Platner; he was just shittily vetted. Does that suck? Yes. But clearly, the primary voters in Maine wanted someone with a similar message to what Platner brought to the table. It's just a matter of employing better investigators before someone achieves national prominence, because holy fuck what a shit show this has turned into.
Well let's get more of the usual types then, let's not try to step outside the mold and adapt. Let's only ever run milquetoast neoliberals who want to tow the party line, that'll show them damn libs.
If only there was some sort of middle ground between geriatric neoliberals and Nazi rapists...
The primary for this race sucked, it was this fucking guy vs a 78 year old...
Even if this turns into a milquetoast-off, some other races look better. More progressive candidates might make it to MI Senate, WI Governor, and a bunch of House races.
What fucking monkey paw wish is that.
"I don't want milquetoast neoliberals"
gets a rapist nazi mercenary
It is fine that anyone can run, but he should have been laughed the moment anyone asked what did he do for a living, or what is that Tattoo. And never get even close to the news. Besides a local Maine headline "Maine nazi tries to run for dems, gets shamed out."
Yet he got endorsements from Warren and Sanders and others.
Nah libs and republicans are dancing on the grave of his campaign
For months libs were making excuses for that cunt.
Ryan Grim is still doing it. I figured he'd possibly change with this red flag but Ryan's also attacking the victim and publication.
Bullshit
Even Sanders endorsed him.
Agree, total bullshit.
Famous liberal Bernie Sanders
You don't get to gaslight me, the DNC was rallying behind him despite him being a mercenary with nazi tattoos. They were making excuses. And suddenly they are all surprised when it turns out he was a bad guy (to a white woman, killing brown people for money was OK)
Did the DNC endorse Platner? Last I heard he was saying the national party was not talking to him.
no they dint, they tried everything along with the gop to discredit him. they finally found that in a sudden accusation of acquataince of his. people were willing to overlook the obvious NAZI tattoos and blackwater involvement , up until the accusations came out.
A few did, most notably Bernie Sanders
People can, and should be allowed to change for the better. People often change their minds on things once they get more information and/or have time to sit with it. We should expect our politicians to do the same, and giving regular people thatâve made honest mistakes but are committed to changing for the better an honest shot is admirable.
It just so happens that in this particular case, way too many chances were given and no honest attempt to change was made.
That is 100% bullshit. and you know why?
If at any point in his life, he regretted his Nazi tattoo, then most tattoo places offer cover up of Nazi tattoos for free. He was a mercenary, he could afford laser treatment. There is absolutely zero justification for him going into politics with said tattoo. And in interviews he reminisced about being a mercenary.
People can change. but he didn't. And using 'people can change' regarding people with nazi tattoos is some gaslighting bullshit.
Does this imply there are good guy mercenaries?
More like a cumulative human shittyness.
However bad a nazi is, and however bad a mercenary is, he was both combined.
It's been disappointing seeing all the so-called left of the US form the same sort of American supremacist cult of peesonality around Platner as did MAGA around Trump.
For democrats, Nazis are only bad when the conservatives have them.
Abolish entryism
it's great that everyone can try and get in.
but a mercenary with nazi tattoos should have been laughed out way before it even got any media attention.
This is actually funny, but I doubt platner intentionally got a Nazi tattoo, or that it is a Nazi tattoo.
Your doubts are stupid
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3rd_SS_Panzer_Division_Totenkopf
Maybe he didn't know when he got it, but there is no fucking way he didn't figure it out before he run and people pointed it.
And he had his whole life to get a free coverup (most tattoo parlours will do cover up of hate symbols for free) , or get it removed. Keeping it was a choice he made.
So toten Kampf represent 6-25k German troops. I was curious how obscure of a Nazi symbol it is.
I have a tattoo of my own design on my back and no one ask what it means (I might tell them it's how life has origins in geochemistry), so I can believe that no one told him. I only know of that symbol because of platner.
Platner did cover up the tattoo and apologized for it ... Which makes his response to rape allegations like an admission to rape to me
No. Aside from being in the insignia of that particular unit, the totenkopf was in much wider use in the SS, including as their universal cap badge. The SS totenkopf is a common nazi symbol.
doesn't count, he covered it up after national outcry, not because he changed as a person.
every day in his life since he got it, he chose to keep it. there's no excuse.
Ignorance would be an excuse an excuse
That is wilful ignorance.
Maybe on platner end. Buuuuut platner being a mercenary is pretty bad. Mercenaries are just never been seen as good people. The Geneva convention had to outlaw mercenaries starting wars for gain contracts
Several reports from people who knew him where he bragged about the tattoo and called it "his Totenkopf".
Seriously, why are you bending over backwards for this guy? Every sign points to him being a piece of shit.
Also on every single person who supported him.
They tolerated his nazi tattoos and his merc career. And based on the conversations I had with them, they still tolerate that, and at best they draw the line at raping a white woman.
It is painfully sad that blue liberals only care if the Nazis are on the other team. And yes, they are liberals and not leftists. because a lefty would punch a nazi not vote for him
Idiot.
WHY DO LIBERALS KEEP JOINING ANTINEOLIBERAL /c/â˝ WHO INVITED YOUR POPULIST ASS? GET OUT OF HERE IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO THROW ALL 7 POPS OUT!
Are you saying he is a good guy? or that it is unexpected that a nazi mercenary would be a bad person?
No. I'm saying you're an idiot. You don't understand anything about politics. Liberals hate Graham Platner for his politics, not his past.
He did get a few major endorsements, and was considered a serious candidate. Despite his policies, and despite having nazi tattoos.
Name a liberal that endorsed him.
Name anyone who endorsed him knowing he was a rapist.
Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Ro Khanna, Ruben Gallego, Ed Markey...
They were all cool with him being a Blackwater mercenary with Nazi tattoos. Now they have to backtrack because Nazis are cool, just as long as they don't hurt a white woman. Because brown people's lives are worth nothing compared to a white woman's tears.
damn, wasn't expected so many pissy twats who are upset at me because they supported a blackwater Merc with nazi tattoos.
i guess a nazi killing brown people is cool with them, just as long as he doesn't hurt a nazi loving white woman
The more impulsively violently irresponsible and willing to hurt others he is, the more I want him in a room full of congressmen.
Platner for whatever he's running for; electoralism of the deed.
Congress is already saturated with war criminals
I just hope he snaps on them.
You really think a nazi mercenary is going to suddenly become a conscious man and be good?
He is one of them.
I think he's a violent unpredictable thug who's going to hurt the people around him, does so pretty regularly. I'm sure its more complex than that, but it looks like its also that.
And I would like him to be in rooms where he is around the worst people. I don't care about his politics. Those don't matter. The system cannot be fixed, but this is a fun new problem it can have.
I really hope this is a joke, otherwise this is the dumbest shit I have ever heard. Like dumber than MAGA voters.
I am blocking this horseshit.
Have you perhaps considered crying about it as well?
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Hur dur dur. Another block.
No need to be so gay about itđ
This is a goldmine for blockable idiots.
That was always an option
I blocked the person. Easy peasy.
Iâm blocking everyone. Everyone is blocked. Fuck you, everyone.
I like you, not blocked. lol
making sure, if it annoys you, you have failed to block me.
And nothing of value was lost.
Thanks for giving me a reason to block you too. Nothing of value indeed.
Found the lib.
I write this guilt free because you should have blocked me as you said.
You really seem more interested in being derisive than actually solving problems.
I don't think Maine is thoroughly class conscious enough to throw the entire race out, and pick themselves as the next Senate + Governorship. They are still playing populist FPtP.
Yeah idk the solution either, I just know being a prick to people isn't helping.
I don't live in Maine to be able to vanguard them an intersecting class. I am just aware their political literacy needs major improvements.
I ain't trying to solve shite, this is just a "I told you so" to all the liberals who supported him. either because they thought a Blackwater merc with nazi tattoos was acceptable or because some lesser evil bs.
Hmmm weird that you also seem to be fine with that.
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