Ouch. Yikes. 🤦
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TankieTanuki [he/him]
Slop.https://xcancel.com/ProletariatRis1/status/2074259936167756184
My guy I don't really like the invasion of Ukraine but fucking Northrump Grumman is unequivocally fucking evil. Northrump Grumman could helping fund the next socialist revolution and they'd still be evil because they're funding fucking Israel. Protest the building you coward.
This is why I tell people Ukraine is the real barometer for whether or not you're a leftist or a radlib.
Palestine is a barometer for people that have a heart. Ukraine is a barometer for people that have a brain.
History seems impenetrably complex and contradictory outside the lens of class struggle. The DSA needs Marxism if it is to amount to anything
Bombs that kill Palestinian children: 😡
Bombs that ethnically cleanse Ukraine: 🥰
The AFU stands for Armed Forces of Ukraine. These artillery shells would be targeting Russian soldiers.
I want you to ask yourself what caused the regions of Crimea, Donetsk and Luhansk to go into open rebellion against the Ukrainian state. What caused the population of those regions to feel they need to fight? Really think hard about this, ask yourself how bad things would need to get before the people around you start supporting open rebellion against your state.
Then I want you to watch this CNN clip from 2014 of some people from Donetsk talking about it.
This went on for 8 years before the Russians invaded. And it has continued throughout this war. You have a very incorrect view of Ukraine's conduct.
Then perhaps, if you have some time:
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/30/russia-ukraine-war-kiev-conflict
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/may/13/ukraine-us-war-russia-john-pilger
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/29/ukraine-fascists-oligarchs-eu-nato-expansion
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30414955
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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28329329
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https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/europe/2021-05-04/ty-article/.premium/ukrainian-official-changes-tune-on-unacceptable-march-honoring-ss-unit/0000017f-e0e2-d7b2-a77f-e3e7ee990000 (https://archive.ph/ckwv4)
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https://www.ft.com/content/7191ec30-9677-423d-873c-e72b64725c2d
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https://archive.is/sec6l
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http://www.errc.org/news/anti-roma-pogroms-in-ukraine-on-c14-and-tolerating-terror
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https://archive.is/AaQ2u
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https://www.hrw.org/news/2014/10/20/ukraine-widespread-use-cluster-munitions
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https://www.npr.org/2023/01/31/1152743054/human-rights-watch-ukraine-landmines"
I know what I said
What does no war and dismantle the war machine mean to you? Azov can have bombs as a little treat?
I can't believe it they all use the same logistics supply chain whose surplus will cause even more imperialism abroad??
I've run into a few of these types of people
When i pointed out the ICJ is investigating Ukraine for its ethnic cleansing campaign, I was told "Don't believe Russian lies"
When i pointed out the ICJ was the same group investigating Israel for genocide, they just short-circuited and vanished
Do you have a link to an article describing the investigation against Ukraine? It’s really difficult to find more info on that via search engines
Here is the notes on the official investigation directly from the ICJ
It's very lengthy, but as of December of last year (2025, if anyone from the future is reading this), the court found that Russia's claims against Ukraine bore merit and that Ukraine had to provide evidence against Russian claims
So far, it's crickets
A British "socialist" once told me that he was torn on Palestine Action because while he did oppose the genocide in Palestine he didn't like the fact that Palestine Action attacks factories that create job opportunities for working class brits.
A socialist who prioritizes nationalism. One might even call him a national socialist.
Can we please stop using this lib-ass gotcha? The Nazis called themselves socialist to steal away support from the actual left. In practice there was nothing socialist in their politics - they broke trade unions, privatised industry, destroyed whatever meagre workers rights had been allowed by the bourgeois state. They weren’t on the side of workers - not even Aryan ones
Ultimately imperialism has to be opposed in order to oppose capitalism; imperialism and imperialist production is an extension of capitalist development, conquest, and extraction of the global south.
If one's "socialism" doesn't oppose imperialism, and thus the imperialist war machine, then one's socialist beliefs and actions ultimately end up as a recuperative force to make a nicer capitalism for those living inside the imperialist nations. This is social democracy. Fascism also represents a recuperative force for capitalism and the bourgeoisie, and arises due to internal crises of capitalism and bourgeois control over society. Social democracy and fascism both act as a recuperative force for capitalism and do not challenge capitalism; this is why people say that social democracy represents the left wing of fascism.
Ultimately, no, the comparison is apt. The imperialist nations enforce a holocaust against broad swatches of the global south, just because they're brown and out of sight for Britons doesn't mean it's not just as bloodthirsty a view.
An enlightened centrist
And left unity types want us to ally with these. They can't even figure out the screen people might be lying about a blatant white supremacist puppet state.
Forget Ukraine, how about starting with getting every DSA chapter to actually BE dedicated anti-zionists, instead of the suspiciously silent chapters or the Johnny-come-late bandwagonists who still talk out the side of their mouths about "Arabs in Michigan"
This is why the PSL makes you take an entire education course before you can become a full member
Some chapters have education courses, but that's precisely the problem; it's not centralized, it's not standardized, it's not enforced. Some chapters are well-oiled machines that would make Lenin proud, and then others are personality cults bizarrely centered around one dude who just happens to know the ins and outs of canvassing. Then there are the liberal chapters that straight-up just need to be purged, tho I admit they're not as widespread as the cynics assume; they're just annoyingly located at strategic locations
It's like setting up a party based around roulettes, LIB, BASED, LIB, BASED, only the gods decide where the ball lands
Workers of the world except Russia, unite!
Two cakes?
2 for 1. Nice
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Maybe should go into electoralism for DSA reasons but the linked poster seems alright.
Gosh, maybe these things are connected? 🤔
Naw, couldn't be. Must be a coincidence. 🫠
