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Electric VehiclesI would definitely have gone for an Ioniq 5 as well if money was not a question. But at the end of the day, the Ioniq 5 was overkill for my use case so I ended up going for a used Hyundai Kona. Still very happy with my choice, even if I would've loved an Ioniq 5. But it did save me like 60.000 DKK.
I think this is what “want an EV, research it heavily” folks tend to end up with, where Teslas leans more “want an EV, don’t research it quite as heavily” crowd.
Not that either brand makes bad cars.
I just mean the Hyundai/Kia EVs are less “sexy” on the surface. Their charge and range is lower, but if you look into it, it’s an engineering compromise for faster charging. Hyundai isn’t a very “glamorous” brand, but their recent cars have been excellent, and if you actually look into Tesla, well… gestures at X. Lower end Teslas are priced somewhat attractively and tend to have better resale value than Hyundai at the moment, and it’s quite rational to assume “well, they’ve been making EVs longer.” But if you research it, Teslas have a more hidden costs over time, and even though some systems like the heatpumps are less refined than Teslas, Hyundai engineered the heck out of the car.
The only downside I know of with the Hyundai is that their single pedal driving controller interprets US law about braking strictly and does not turn on the brake lights unless you dump the pedal, engaging the brake rotors. So either just don't use single pedal driving mode, or have faith that US drivers don't drive distracted (this is an endorsement for not using Hyundai's single pedal driving mode btw)
My wife's Ioniq 6 turns on the brake lights when it is doing regeneration braking, so you are misinformed (unless it is a recent change; hers is a 2025). I can't imagine that your version has ever been true, though.
Also their failing ICCUs. They keep trying to fix it, but people keep reporting it's not fully solved.
This is a feature to maximize EV resale value by getting you a big cash settlement when someone rear ends you.
It's selling even better than Cybertruck?
I noticed the cybertrucks trucks disappearing in my area.
Along with fellow humans giving CT drivers the bird and snarky notes under their one dumb windshield wiper, they're also just... not very good vehicles. The steering is vague, the acceleration is ass because the vehicle is so heavy, and they get the gremlins if they get wet and they weren't set to car wash mode. So some drivers are going to be quietly trying to trade them in for shame, and some are going to be perpetually in the shop getting fixes for problems they never should have been allowed to have in the first place
Test-drove one when I was looking for an EV. Nice car but the turning radius is ridiculously large, which along with the general size of the car made me go for a Kia EV3 instead. I guess those points wouldn't be much of an issue on American roads though.
We nearly bought one as well but went for an EV6 instead (which is basically the same car in a different shell), in the UK. The turning circle was definitely a concern but honestly has been fine.
I have an Ioniq 5. It’s great. Highly recommended.
Those are pretty sweet. Was looking at those before I bought its cousin the Kia EV6. Best vehicle I’ve ever owned.
Even with the iccu ?
They offer 15 years of warranty for that part, I wouldn't worry about it.
You have to make sure to stick to the service intervals and that a used one had all services Döner in time, if you plan to buy one. A few hundred miles over the service and the guarantee will be void.
Hmm... kebab...
I nearly got an Ioniq 5 as our second car, but ended up getting a BMW i4 instead. I was very impressed with the Ioniq 5 - it's a fantastic car. We already had an iX though, andI figured it'd be best to stick to something with the same UI. I'm mostly a frontend developer and UI quirks really get to me, so I'd rather just deal with one set of quirks.
How's the i4 (and iX) been? Any complaints or issues?
I bought one last year and it’s been a delight.
I have many complaints about it and they’re all incredibly petty.
I have an EV6.
Those paddle shifters are so annoying! You want to accelerate slowly to drive your grandma around? You better hope she likes stiff braking! What's that, you want sporty responsive acceleration? Better combine it with an anemic brake response! Who tf came up with this?
No complaints about the adaptive cruise control and lane centering, though. Best I've ever used.
Man I love mine but I do have a lot of complaints. Like a bunch of things that just don’t make any sense, like the doors unlock when you walk up but don’t lock when you walk away? You also can’t lock the doors using the door buttons if you want to lock and walk away, so fucking annoying. There’s a lot of small things, but it charges so fast and it’s so nice inside.
These kind of little things, plus the iccu and driver awareness sensor on 2025+ is what made me buy a '25 Mach E instead. They each have their quirks and the I5 is a better car on paper, but the Mach E is better in practice. I'll take a reliable ICCU, more sensical battery preconditioning, and driver profiles over the 800V architecture that DC charges slightly faster.
And it locks the doors when you walk away like you mentioned. It's the little things.
I want an EV and I like Hyundais (having owned one in the past), but reading comments like these reminds me that having a "modern" computerized car would drive me nuts. And that's on top of the surveillance and lack of right to repair being deal-breakers.
Hey bruh, you wanna skip forward a song on this playlist? Toggle down on the steering wheel control.
You. Dirty. Mother. Fucker.
This kinda makes sense because you're going down in the playlist... But other cars use left and right 🤷
Hyundais other cars use up. Even their other brands like Kia use up. It makes no sense.
Up makes less sense to me. If I'm going to the next item, why would I be going up? Next should be either down or right, consistent with how we read in English (to the right, then down) and consistent with playlists in media player apps (and YouTube, etc)
I guess using up for next is so it's consistent with volume, where up actually makes sense?
Media players have always used left for previous track and right for next track, so it's frustrating when UI designs try to change that.
I wish that all car manufacturers would start using UWB technology with their keys. It lets the car detect the physical location of the key, accurate to within 10 centimeters (4 inches).
This allows for very accurate automatic lock and unlock, and is essentially completely immune to relay and replay attacks. Even if the car receives an unlock signal, it won't actually unlock unless the key is also physically close to the car.
It also lets you use your phone as a key with the same automatic lock and unlock features, as long as it supports UWB, like the Pixel Pro, Galaxy Plus and Ultra series, and iPhones excluding the SE.
Or just bring back metal keys and drop the insta steal bullshit.
Pretty sure the Ioniq does use uwb. You can use your phone to unlock in other countries. Idk why it doesn’t work here. And with the keyfob backup it does know where the key was.
Huh, I didn't know that.
I'd like to see all cars use UWB though, even low-end ICE ones. Some people want a new car but can only afford low-end models, and they should be able to get the same security and key functionality as on higher-end models.
What do you mean you can’t lock using the door buttons and walk away? What happens?
Walk up to your car. Doors unlock. Open door and hit the lock button. Nothing with happen. The door lock buttons on the inside do absolutely nothing unless the key is inside of the car. It’s insanity. Like, what if I realize I didn’t lock my car and I’m outside without my keys. I have to go back into the house, get the keys, then come out and lock the car. You can’t just open the fucking die and hit the lock buttons. It’s fucking stupid.
They immediately unlock again. Or the button does nothing. I forget exactly. Basically, it's impossible to lock the key in the car. I imagine that's the logic.
As far as not locking when you walk away from the car, I have no idea. There is a 3rd party device to fix that though. I installed mine in about 20min, and I was being very carefully methodical with every step. It's easy.
But you can still close the tailgate just fine with your keys in the truck. And guess what, the car will just unlock itself. So clearly they already have a solution.
So many contradictions in this damn car.
Also, doesn’t that device cause other issues? I’ve thought about getting it but didn’t like the compromises. Don’t remember what they were though.
Never had any problems, been working perfectly. Close all the doors, walk away with the key, 10sec later the doors lock. Unlocks again as you'd expect.
I installed it in mine. What other issues? I have a 2025 N-Line and it's been fine.
That’s ridiculous! Mine doesn’t do that with either the fob or digital key. Once I lock it I need to walk a ways away before a proximity unlock. I have a 2026. If you yeet the keys away and use the door lock I assume it stays locked?
I’d bitch at the dealership if mine did that!
No worry about the iccu?
It got an update in fall of 2024 that is supposed to fix it. Hasn't been a problem so far.
Real Subaru 'we fixed the head gaskets, for real this time' vibes
The update in this case was software. It reduces the charging rate and runs fans during charging to lower the temperature the ICCU has to endure. I bought my car in early 2025 with the update in place and never ran the ICCU at the older, higher temperature. I suspect that a fix like that wouldn't help anyone who had already baked theirs for months or years.
I did too. Then my iccu failed 4 months later.
Did you have the car before the update? Or did you buy it new with the update in place?
With 15 year warranty, you forgot that part.
Sure. It was at the dealer for 2+ months.
But I've also heard they take a long time to complete the repairs
The N variant is a beast
