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laser is funny cause it's like "i thought you said it was gonna hurt" and then they get to the centre of your face and it's like somebody punching you in the eye. T_T
i dont miss it at ALL
Super important note for anyone interested in future laser or electrolysis (from my friend who is a professional in the field): any removal method that rips the hair out of the follicle (tweezing, waxing, epilating) can over time warp the hair follicle making it far harder to treat with more permanent methods.
Electrolysis relies on a technician sticking a probe down into each follicle, and if your follicles are curved/warped then it becomes far harder for the probe to reach the base. Likewise laser requires heating up each hair via laser such that they are destroyed at the follicle - warped follicles reduce efficacy of this method as well.
I am at point where I can use this on every spot of my body, given that the skin is not flappy, ask me how I know. The result is worth the pain, and the pain lessens with repeated use for me
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Please revered seer, tell me of this device. What is it's purpose?
It's an epilator. Basically, a bunch of tweezers on a spinning thing to yoink out your hair.
Mein gott...
Sounds effective. Like more than just a torture device. But it also sounds like hell.
if you're used to plucking then it isn't as bad, but if not, it feels like death by a thousand cuts. you can build up a tolerance to it but you'll still have to deal with the pain
on the plus side, you don't have to do it nearly as often as shaving
I used epilator on my armpits and it hurt a lot. But I hate the fact I'm so hairy as a woman (thanks, PCOS and genetics, I also now have to shave my mustache), so I just take it. To your point, I prefer to use waxing strips on that area because it's less painful as it rips much more hair off in one go.
After a lot of pain a chosen one will get a smooth hairless body and all others will resemble a plucked chicken.
I fell under the plucked chicken category. Was truly an awful experience.
The Emperor Protects.
Is the chosen ones soul sacrificed to the Machine God, the Omnissiah?
The pain is already the sacrifice. The Omnissiah is graceful in the end.
Praise the Machine God. 🙏
I tried. I really tried. The feeling i can only describe as having your skin flayed off. They say it gets easier but after the fifth try i gave up. I would be sweating from the pain. On top of that it really doesn't last long enough to be worth it. A week at most for me.
For me the trick was to minimze the amount of hair that gets plucked per session. The idea is to first get to a state where you have plucked the majority of hair (this is the hard part). After that you can continuously epliate once a hand full of hair has regrown.
So for large areas like the legs, I inititally only epilated so much until I've had enough and continued the next day. I also would at times move the epilator in direction of growth; by this hairs are more likely to break off, but it reduces the density of hair on your skin at that moment and makes the epilation against direction of growth a lot more tolerable.
After this point, the number of hairs that grow in the first week or so should be greatly reduced. Epilate those, rinse and repeat. I usually epilate once a week, which doesn't take too long (esp. compared to the initial step) and doesn't really hurt because each time there are only a few hairs there.
Mine worked fine on my legs, hurt at first but gradually got to the point where it didn't even hurt that much. I only stopped using it because I am too lazy to clean the darn thing. Was horrible for belly hair though. Kept getting ingrown hairs.
I used one of these on my face weekly for years and it didn't even slow the hair growth down. Everyone kept telling me that constant plucking/epilation/waxing would destroy the hair follicles eventually but it fucking didn't, if anything it made me grow more and even thicker hairs.
And epilatiing won't even end up that smooth either as it will break off random hairs instead of plucking them and then miss those hairs during next passes over as they're too short.
If you can take the pain, electrolysis is the most effective (and most permenant!) way to remove hair.
electrolysis is the most effective (and most permenant!) way to remove hair
Also the most painful and most expensive.
Source: my entire beard went grey/white by my early 30s.
I am so sorry... :O
Source: my entire beard went grey/white by my early 30s.
Yup that's kinda what happened to me too. I had dark brown hair as a young kid, it really suited my colouring, then bam, traumatic shit starts happening and I lose a whole bunch of pigment.
And to add insult to injury, I didn't even get that badass looking 'hair turned completely white from fear', just this ugly and weirdly warm blondy looking colour that makes me look all washed out and kinda jaundiced.
Oh and then when the facial hair started growing in, every other one of those gross thick hairs was unpigmented and clear, and every other hair between those clear hairs was pitch black, because fuck me right? Lmao.
Damn, that sucks! I'm sorry. At least if half the facial hair is thick and black, you can get that with laser, which will probably still be quicker and cheaper than electrolysis, but I appreciate that's only really a bright side after the fact and not before the fact.
Also, I like your display name.
Ah sorry, it's been a weird day so far and I was just letting off steam by ranting about unrelated shit. None of that is really stuff that bothers me much any more and I've had tonnes of electrolysis over the years which got most of the facial hair, so I'm good in that regard too.
Thankies for the compliment, cat emoticons are the best /ᐠ > ˕ <マ ₊˚⊹♡
No worries! Feel free to rant away!
yeah hairs on the face are different than body hairs. they dont respond to damage from pulling in the same way, as you learned the hard way. epilating is supposed to eventually reduce leg hair but it seems to take quite a long time. ive been doing kind of a combo of laser and epilating on my legs. ill laser it when it grows, then epilate like a week later. it probably doesn't help much. mostly i just hate waiting for it to shed.
I tried this with lidocaine cream (the numbing chemical in most ointments) and it was still fucking painful.
Gonna be real whoever posed with a fucking smile for these products obviously haven't tried these at all as they're self-inflicted torture devices.
0/10 would not recommend.🖕
just began skin-testing my at-home ipl, i really hope i won't have to shave so much anymore, i hate the prickly feelings i get
Pro tip, for transfems and transmascs and enbys (and yes, cis too!) all alike, here's some tips;
::: spoiler Skin & Hair wash routine Don't go overboard with all those complicated skincare routines (unless if medically necessary), despite what the pharma want to tell you. Just use warm/lukewarm water and soap (while showering), maybe body lotion after.
Use sunscreen on days with high UV levels, or if you're going to spend a while outside.
For washing head hair, apply shampoo first on wet hair and let it stay for a few minutes before washing a bit of it off. You know you're doing the shampoo right if you can go through your hairs easily with your hands.
Conditioner is mostly a thing for giving the hairs volume. If you use it, do it after the shampoo's washed off a bit, and use it sparingly. I think it goes on the hair ends, but correct me on that if needed.
If you feel your hair is dandruffy, you're washing it too often or too little; if it's getting twisted and hard to go through, maybe the water is 'hard' (full of calcium), and you'll need a filter. Or comb after shower-washing. I can rec föhning your hair while you comb it, it makes the hair much easier to go through and also fuller.
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::: spoiler Body hair shaving Use a "women's" razor (often pinkish, yeah, I know... but those are better designed to shave the legs, even if hairy). Shave in the direction your hair grows. So if it goes ///, then shave -->. Don't press on the skin, go just such that you barely can feel it.
Your hair might be slightly longer then, but they'll look a little thinner and the skin is not going to be as irritated.
Because body hair shaving takes a fairly long time (30 min), I usually do the legs first, and the more sensitive areas last.
Shower then and gently dry after, and then moisturise with a body lotion, preferably non-alcoholic.
All hair, whether bodily or facially, grows in cycles of about six weeks. Typically, they'll be more visible after half that. If you want to shave more often, that's okay, too. But remember to moisturise, especially if your skin is sensitive! :::
::: spoiler Facial shaving
If you want it all gone:
Use a manual razor where the head is a throwaway, they tend to be able to shave to the skin. The electric bigger ones don't really do so. Wash your face first, dry gently, and then apply shaving cream. I recommend a non-alcoholic basis one, those don't hurt if you get a small wound by accident.
Apply the cream everywhere where the hairs grow. After that, put a bit of cold water on your razor and shave; don't press hard. You should feel the skin, but it shouldn't hurt. If it does, stop and put a bit of warmer water over the hurt area, then continue for the rest and then wash it off with warm water.
If you do the area above the upper lip, then start with that, then the cheeks, then the rest, and once done, wash off with warm water. After that, apply aftershave.
If you want it shorter or to maintain it:
Above tips apply, but the cream is less important on a beard/moustache area if you want to keep that. If it's a stubble, still use cream.
Use an electric razor wherr you can adjust its length. You can press more against the skin, as the knifes won't cut much.
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::: spoiler Waxing/Epilating/Laser Waxing is temporary, or it just reduces hairs a bit after doing so often. It's not as painful as laser, and more affordable. So that is also handy.
Epilating is the most affordable of all three options, but also hurts more than lasering, in my opinion. If done often enough it can permanently reduce the hairs, but I'm not sure about removing it.
Laser is better if you have the funds for it, and want it gone altogether forever. It is much more expensive and it does hurt (like pincing hairs but x5). But an ice compress helps a lot, and it takes about 20 min per session. The hairs will be gone completely for multiple weeks, and if done often enough, will be reduced or gone altogether (6-11 sessions). The most painful areas are the mouth, crotch, and front legs. The first session will hurt most. I can say that, though it felt freeing afterward.
Check your insurance; some places allow you to reimburse for lasering, though might ask to send pictures. In my case I did not want to do so, and so paid it out of pocket.
It doesn't matter much whether you do it before or once on HRT (though on estrogen dominance, hair is a bit thinner, and vice versa with testosteron dominance), though it does matter whether your hair is easily visible against the skin or not. You might then need a different laser. :::
Hope that all helps!
Thank you for your wisdom birdwing
I used one of these on my face once. For my sacrifice the Omnisssiah blessed me with a very good reaction to laser. Now the laser is on its higher settings and I am once again proving my loyalty to our machine god in hopes of being welcomed into its blessed wiring with open arms.
oh my god did it rip off a chunk of your face? i cant imagine epilating my face and ive been doing electrolysis on myself.
How is auto-electrolysys working out for you?
its going pretty well all things considered. now that ive got the technique down and have a nice magnifying mirror its pretty easy, just kinda slow. the only real problem now is reaching my neck and sideburns is really hard due to the angles and how hard it is to see what im doing. well that and having the motivation to do it.
Christ I can barely do eyeliner without stabbing myself in the eyeballs, i don't think I'm gonna attempt that yet. Impressive though!
The full answer to this is actually quite lengthy, as I just had kinda weird facial hair my whole life.
Short version is 0/10 would not recommend, if you care that much just go one at a time with tweezers.

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