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SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
chatI lift a lot of stuff from it because they have their finger on the pulse of slop. But like I've seen a lot of casual antisemitism coming from them whenever anything jewish adjacent pops up. Ableism too, like real bad, slurs and all. Yes I know reddit and all that, but it feels like hexbear is the only place on the net not infected by shit.
I've always seen it as the cth refuge for people who really want to be able to say slurs and remain on reddit
its like a bizarre 50-50 mix of DSA libs and 4chan brained chuds
every other post is like "zohran isnt perfect but hes doing a rent freeze" or "did you know that jews got kicked out of 109 countries"
I was reading it for a bit a few years ago but they seemed to really hate trans people. I remember at some point they were posting pictures of Natalie Wynn and picking apart her appearance as to whether she was passable or not. Just a general lot of commentary about trans people being freaks and stuff. It was intolerable.
I've seen a lot of casual antisemitism coming from them whenever anything jewish adjacent pops up.
Well, do they assert that regular Jews going to a typical synagogue in the US are worthy targets of anticolonial violence, and then dogpile and ban you if you disagree while maintaining an anti-Israel stance?
I've seen a lot of posters straight up blaming "ZOG" and shit like that, so yes, in a way, they're implying that ALL jews are targets.
That's plausible but a bit of a leap from A to B.
For something concrete, take the case in which 3 .MLs and 3 Hexbears a) line up in support of someone who tried to indiscriminately kill Jews, b) argue for guilt-by-association of how if your place of worship has ever had a shitty take, you and everyone who's ever attended there all deserve to be slaughtered, and c) call someone (who is vocally anti-Isra*el, donates substantial amounts to Palestinians, and has put emself on the line in solidarity demonstrations) a "Zionist" for being against a strategy of tension. (don't click if you want to keep high faith in this instance)
I clicked the link and it appears to just be you pooping in your diaper and then saying "uh oh, stinky"
How is it wrong to say that lethal violence should target discernable figures of a movement instead of random bystanders, and to say that we should uphold the distinction between diaspora Jews and Israel? Lay it out for me.
Why would you link to yourself getting pantsed over and over, do you have a humiliation fetish?
They still weren't valid targets and if you think they are, you have a "kill everyone with the tiniest arguable amount of associable guilt" approach to leftism.
It is a correct stance to say that donors to fascist causes are donors, that minorities are minorities, and an attempt to make a blanket equivocation of the two is part of what drives the cycle of violence.
It is a correct stance to say that there are varying levels of guilt in Zionist oppression, that individuals with discernible stances and impacts are better targets than a general population, and even that the typical Christian megachurch is more Zionistic, and more complicit in Isra*el's worst abuses, than the typical Reform synagogue is.
It is an incorrect stance to claim that "when you kill people, you make them less determined to do violence to you. I'm sure that poster would never claim that Hezbollah or Ansarallah, or the VNPA, or the Iraqi resistance (the list goes on), had a reduced ability to fight after being killed in greater numbers.
It is an incorrect stance to claim that "people change their minds and shy away when you kill them or threaten them, and they don't double down or find new ways around it". This is one of the few clear lessons in history. It applies to everyone, not just whatever historical forces you like best.
People go to a place of worship because they're looking for community, not because they select an ideal institution by analyzing all the history and political stances. Their biggest deciding factor is usually how close or accessible it is, not whether they took a certain stance 85 years ago or what their financials look like. Perhaps someone who's never been religious wouldn't understand this, but then they should refrain from talking authoritatively about it.
Hamas and PIJ operatives on October 7 were like "we are Muslims, we will keep you safe and treat you honorably" to those who had directly benefitted from oppressing them, or worse.
Random fediverse members with a penchant for violence are like "yeah if a Jew in America went to the wrong synagogue, they deserve to die".
I would have said all this therein, but a power-gluttonous stranger to green grass (no one who does any actual organizing IRL cultivates these opinions) banned me, not for what side someone takes, but for someone on their own side having anything less than total bloodthirst.
My count of people on this instance who don't understand this and choose a simplistic "just kill everyone in opposition" increases to 4. Maybe there's a pattern of why we didn't see the growth that other instances did.
stop going on reddit
Seriously, the reddit frog pot has been violently bubbling, lid rattling as jets of steam escape, for awhile now
but i have 10 year old tech support questions
its fine for that and porn but don't scroll it habitually
:yea:
i need information that only r/shrimptank can provide
I know this is probably a joke, but just in case it's not, there's a ton of old fishkeeping forums that are still accurate and more often than not have a better ratio of good info to chaff.
we have had this classic banger forever: if people need the reminder
I will continue to self harm thank you very much :^)
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Brace only stopped saying the r word because he thinks it's cringe because the right likes it too much now.
Like, explicitly he said this a few times.
On a chapo call in episode one of the calls was about how they keep having to defend chapo to their friends who say they use the r word. One of the chapos said "if we're still gonna get flak for this why did we even stop saying it?" To which brace replied "i never stopped saying it!"
I love the show but they've been problematic the whole time
everyone on reddit is a stupid asshole
Hexbear is pretty much the only Internet place I still respect. Ofc it's not perfect but I swear there's not a single other Internet third space that's actually principled
Hard agree, even other supposed leftist spaces have all kinds of bs and or ableism that keeps pissing me off or at least making me tired. Today I had 2 Portuguese mad at me and being racist in a post about GTA lol, and saw some members of the clan I'm in in Warframe discussing fucking eugenics because someone bought up some bs Switzerland is doing, good thing me and another user were countering the bs there.
Every other social media platform is the YouTube comments section and should be treated as such
The entire world is a YouTube comments section
Hexbear is real life, everything else is computer. When someone tells you to touch grass what they are actually saying is that you should post more on the bear site
Yeah nowhere is perfect but at least we put in the work to not be scumbums sometimes.
Im certain there are various discords and even smaller forums that enforce no slur usage but as I said most of those arent Marxist or even leftwing afaik.
This is a Christian server
i thought we were taosits against hentai
It's the only place thst still kinda feels like web 1.0. I still think we should be a BBS style forum.
Those libs banned me for DTA posting. They are so scared of getting the chapotraphouse treatment. At least r/cth died on its feet and posting untill the end. Cowards. Libs.
Ableism
Podcast: has slogan "be normal"
Podcast's Subreddit: is bigoted against people who society considers abnormal
Brace Belden, an overwhelmingly normal dude
I'm banned there
Yeah it has a lot of semi-"ironic" cultural tailism (that is sometimes actually not ironic). They take the "be normal" dictum to mean using the slurs of the "common person" and just generally don't police many of the reactionary tendencies common on Reddit.
There's also good posters there that reject this and there's regular cross-posting there and here from among those ranks. But yeah I don't go there anymore.
Much like the sub that this site spawned from, it is supposed to be a space for left wing people who like edgy and vulgar humor. So yeah, there's gonna be a lot of problematic shit there. This community decided to move away from that legacy, which I think is mostly a good thing (there was a period I think we overcorrected a bit and you could be banned for even mentioning the existence of Cum Town).
It's not for everyone for sure.
I blame Young Chomsky, he's a mod
Not gonna defend the trueanon sub .....but a place like Hexbear is the very rare exception from the rule. Like there are places that dont allow slur usage etc but they are usually liberal or radlibs at best. The wider internet either doesnt really care or activley encourages stuff like slur usage.
Doesn't Brace use the R slur regularly? Or am I thinking another adjacent podcast?
He's stopped but only in the last year
And he said he found it "gauche" not that it was an offensive slur
Maybe I can listen to it again at some point then.
I kinda stopped listening to it unless they have a guest I am really interested in hearing from.
I don't get it he's funny af otherwise, and his politics are on the left. Like, drop the fucking slur from your vocabulary dude!!
a lot of casual antisemitism
super fans
I done never actually sit down and listened to t_a outside of knowing who Brace is and his shenanigans on twitter. So is she an antisemite or something?
No it's just a running joke Brace makes that she's a rabid anti-semite, him and Yung Chomsky are both Jewish.
She is Polish though, so genetically anti-Semitic
Ah, I think I remember reading about Brace being jewish, weird how some of their fans are kind of bastards.
I dunno how much to chalk up the slurs etc to being Redditors in a sub for the supreme shit poster, but for a real answer for the casual antisemitism I've seen from a few people I know in the past couple years. You have to gently explain that the Jewish population that's against having a settler colonial ethno-state do not get any media coverage and it's easy to see the amplified voices of the Zios being indicative of the opinions of the whole.
The Fairness Doctrine should mean that I get equal airplay time to talk about Jewish Voice for Nuking Tel Aviv.
good idea but i think they repealed that about 40 years ago
This is why.
A good chunk of the sub doesn't even know there is a podcast
Unlike us who know our podcast so well that we all have a Gorkamorka-style shrine to Nima and Adam
Gorkamorka-style shrine to Nima and Adam
Nima provides informative citations while Adam provides well-cited information
POP ON DOWN TO THE WHITE HOUSE, MR CHAPO
You spelled Nick wrong
like the drug kingpin?
Its a great podcast sometimes. They do get into some stuff others dont but also sometimes entertain cranks. I'm a fan of the podcast, knew about Brace from his MRR articles before the podcast and I saw Warkrime (his old punk band) once. We're the same age and have a lot of similarities in our youth experiences regarding being drug addict punk rockers. The 5 Part series about Synanon and the Troubled Child Industry called The Game is like...next level. Brace got taken from his home in the night at age 14 to the middle of nowhere to a camp made to correct troubled teens and its a deep investigation into how those came to be that even involves them going to the house of the guy running it at the time to confront him. It is amazing journalism and an absolutely harrowing personal story combined with a highly weird history to what led to these child concentration camps where weird experimental psychology based on abuse was and is still done to kids. It is fucking harrowing but it's something I think everyone should listen to and easily my favorite podcast thing ever. Blowback is second to The Game. Cw just in general. This is not an easy listen
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7oZ269xU9gKCcWS8meDtrjVO_VtxPWm6
We disavow
But if you do...
Always has been lol, there are some gems but it is generally pretty shit imo
It certainly hasn't been about the podcast/conspiracy culture for a while. I'm an r/TA refugee so perhaps things have changed but it really seems like the inevitable forces of reddit finally catching up with them. Memorable posters like throwaway numbers or opencommune disappearing, refugees from the latest banned 'left' subreddit not integrating, a lot of reaction/image stuff instead of interesting text posts, multi-thread discourse, etc. It's reddit.
Throwaway still posts, opencommune was BMF.
hasn't been about the podcast/conspiracy culture for a while
The episode threads usually get low double digit comments at most
This has been the case for a long while
