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Brad Lander, an ally of Mayor Zohran Mamdani, won the Democratic primary in a progressive New York House district on Tuesday, according to The Associated Press, in a race that hinged largely on the candidates’ different stances on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
With 53 percent of the vote counted, Mr. Lander, a former city comptroller and mayoral candidate who has criticized Israel’s war in Gaza, was almost 30 points ahead of the incumbent, Representative Dan Goldman, a pro-Israel former federal prosecutor who helped lead the first impeachment inquiry into President Trump.
Mr. Lander benefited from his deep roots in the 10th District, which covers Lower Manhattan and parts of Brooklyn. His victory makes him the likely winner of the general election in November.
Mr. Lander, 56, was one of three progressive primary candidates endorsed by Mr. Mamdani, with whom he has had a political alliance since last year’s Democratic mayoral primary.
The two men began as rivals, but cross-endorsed each other as the primary date closed in, saying they wanted to work together to keep former Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo from winning the nomination. Their alliance has elevated them both — Mr. Mamdani to City Hall, and Mr. Lander to the cusp of a congressional victory.
Mr. Lander reflected on the decision to team up with Mr. Mamdani during a televised debate last week, saying it had modeled a new kind of politics for New York.
“It unleashed a nice sense of solidarity,” he said on the debate stage. “People said to me, ‘Wait, you mean politics doesn’t have to be a sour, selfish ego trip — it can be a team sport for the values you share?’”
Among several closely watched primaries across the city and state, the contest in the 10th District was notable for the degree to which it was dominated by the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Both Mr. Lander and Mr. Goldman are Jewish and describe themselves as liberal Zionists, but they approach the issue in very different ways.
Mr. Lander has spent decades in the world of progressive Jewish activism, working with organizations like Jews for Racial and Economic Justice and cofounding the New York Jewish Agenda, a left-leaning group.
He has also been a longtime player in Democratic politics in New York City, and entered the primary with a committed base and a groundswell of good will in the district.
He spent many years running a community development organization in Park Slope, then served on the City Council for more than a decade representing several of the congressional district’s neighborhoods. After he left the Council, he served as city comptroller, during which time he chose not to repurchase State of Israel bonds that had matured.
Mr. Lander has been an outspoken critic of Israel since the start of the war in Gaza, which began after the Hamas-led terror attack on Oct. 7, 2023.
Mr. Lander has backed claims by human rights groups and a United Nations commission that Israel has committed genocide in Gaza, frequently using that word on the campaign trail, and has said he supports legislation to block U.S. military aid to the country until it meets human rights standards.
Mr. Goldman’s views hew more closely to the longtime status quo in American politics regarding the U.S.-Israel relationship. He is a critic of Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, but has said he supports continuing to provide the military aid that underpins the decades-long alliance between the two countries.
And he has said he does not believe Israel has committed genocide in Gaza or that its treatment of the Palestinians can fairly be described as apartheid — another word Mr. Lander frequently uses — calling them ideologically charged terms.
Mr. Goldman accepted the endorsement of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, a hard-line pro-Israel lobbying group increasingly shunned by Democrats, but was also endorsed by J Street, a more liberal pro-Israel group. :::
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/23/nyregion/ny10-primary-lander.html
this trash belongs in c/electoralism
bourgeois infighting is not politics
if you don’t celebrate zionists being elected, you’re an ultra
Guess I'm an ultra on hexbeanis.com ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Here's this moderate, presentable fascist explaining how he's staunchly against performing even the smallest action within his power to stop Israel from committing genocide.
He doesn't want to checks notes stop funneling money directly to Israel.
https://www.youtube.com/live/JKO-JWNQquc?t=664
Fashioning himself a “liberal Zionist,” Lander attacked Goldman relentlessly on the campaign trail over the perception that the incumbent hasn’t been forceful enough in speaking out against Israel’s war in Gaza, which has left more than 75,000 Palestinians dead after being launched in response to Hamas’ Oct. 7, 2023, terror attack. Lander has blasted Goldman for not supporting legislation to block more U.S. military aid for Israel and accused him of kow-towing to pro-Israel lobbying groups by not calling the country’s war a “genocide.”
In his victory speech, Lander kept taking shots at Goldman on that front — and even took aim at former President Joe Biden.
“Our party needs to admit that Joe Biden’s ‘hug Bibi’ strategy was a catastrophic mistake. I believe it made us complicit in genocide,” Lander said, refrring to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Neyanyahu. “Bombs we paid for killed more than 70,000 Palestinians — most of them women and children. Tanks we paid for left a million people homeless. Humanitarian aid still is not getting in.”
If this is where the 'liberal zionists' are, then this is a win; yes, one day this milquetoast bullshit will be viewed as the soft genocide denial that it is, but if the left can get Jewish American politicians in the heart of Jewish America to utter these words, then we're winning
If this is where the 'liberal zionists' are
Of course they are. This is the left wing of American liberal Zionism. They put the blame on Netanyahu, speak in terms of strategic errors in how Israel was supported, do not criticize the project itself and defend it instead. This is very on-brand for liberal Zionists.
then this is a win;
"Elect more Zionists!", says @CyborgMarx@hexbear.net.
yes, one day this milquetoast bullshit will be viewed as the soft genocide denial that it is, but if the left can get Jewish American politicians in the heart of Jewish America to utter these words, then we're winning
"He was the nicest Nazi and that's a win for the left", they said.
So "the left wing of American liberal Zionism" opposes genocide, apartheid, and US funding for Israel? You think that's on-brand for liberal Zionists? You're incoherent
"Elect more Zionists!", says @CyborgMarx@hexbear.net.
Zionists just ate compete shit with these three elections; you're literally delusional, who did AIPAC support in these elections?
"He was the nicest Nazi and that's a win for the left", they said
I'm so sorry material reality is so depressing for you, but if you think Jewish America is going to abandon its Zionist tendencies in the immediate future, then you're a utopian with no grounding in scientific socialism, so yes, American Jews who three years ago supported a genocide electing a Jewish politician who now after left pressure opposes genocide and funding for Israel IS A FUCKIN WIN
So "the left wing of American liberal Zionism" opposes genocide
Not entirely. The left wing of American Zionism currently calls the hot genocide on Gaza a genocide and claims opposition to it while doing little materially against it (and often materially supporting it). They do not describe Israel's history as genocidal nor the project itself as genocidal, they limit it to events since October 7.
So they oppose some forms of Zionist genocide but not others.
apartheid
They tend to still support apartheid but a smattering might favor one state solution and integration and so on. But that's a very fine line for the latter to walk. I'm pretty sure Lander explicitly defends Israel's "right to exist" as a "Jewish state", i.e. he supports apartheid.
and US funding for Israel?
Yes this is a fairly common left wing of Zionism position, usually something they put on quite a show about, "agonizing" over it. Though it's usually limited, e.g. "no money for bombs during genocide done by Netanyahu". Does Lander claim to be against all US funding to Israel?
Zionists just ate compete shit with these three elections; you're literally delusional, who did AIPAC support in these elections?
It does not change the fact that you're celebrating the election of a Zionist as, simply, a win.
I'm so sorry material reality is so depressing for you, but if you think Jewish America is going to abandon its Zionist tendencies in the immediate future, then you're a utopian with no grounding in scientific socialism
That's not a goalpost I have set. I am noting your modernized Nazi apologetics, however.
so yes, American Jews who three years ago supported a genocide electing a Jewish politician who now after left pressure opposes genocide and funding for Israel IS A FUCKIN WIN
He was the nicest elected Nazi, they said.
Not entirely. The left wing of American Zionism currently calls the hot genocide on Gaza a genocide and claims opposition to it while doing little materially against it
No they fuckin don't, the best you can get out of those rats is "peace and two states, peace and two states" a form of soft genocide denial and delusion, that's why Landers, despite being liberal zionist is an anomaly, not because he came to the correct position through his own intuition, but because the DSA leashed the fucker and forced him into running on soft anti-zionism in the heart of Jewish America AND HE WON
Nobody cares about the dipshit's personal beliefs or trusts him; we care that it's been proven he can be a useful idiot for the left, and a shield against smears. He handed us Dan Goldman's defeat and you don't have an coherent argument against that reality that isn't based in delusion that mirrors liberal zionists
No they fuckin don't, the best you can get out of those rats is "peace and two states, peace and two states" a form of soft genocide denial and delusion
You say "no they don't" and then just listed an example of how they do lol. But the left wing of liberal Zionism got dragged into calling the destruction of Gaza and the Palestinians living there a genocide over time. Hell even some particularly incoherent liberal Zionists call it a genocide even as they repeat islamophobic Hasbara and stoke fear about how equality would mean the death of all Jewish people. Ask me how I know that last one lol.
that's why Landers, despite being liberal zionist is an anomaly, not because he came to the correct position through his own intuition, but because the DSA leashed the fucker and forced him into running on soft anti-zionism in the heart of Jewish America AND HE WON
Those are some confident active verbs. He was leashed? Forced? You're sure he didn't just see an opportunity to benefit from the sea change, gambling on tying himself to Mamdani? To me, it looks like simple bourgeois electoral quid pro quo, though the quid and quo and all rhetoric and simply winning an election.
Nobody cares about the dipshit's personal beliefs or trusts him; we care that it's been proven he can be a useful idiot for the left
This is also a dressing up of the previous quid pro quo thing. Congratulations, Mamdani has a Jewish hanger-on in office. Regarding winning for the left, do you remember Mamdani endorsing him over the left candidate? Not that big of a useful idiot, more like someone that also got what he wanted at the expense of the left, but who benefitted Mamdani.
and a shield against smears
Already addressed in a different thread.
He handed us Dan Goldman's defeat and you don't have an coherent argument against that reality that isn't based in delusion that mirrors liberal zionists
An argument against what? That Lander won against Goldman? Is that what you think we're talking about?
You say "no they don't" and then just listed an example of how they do lol
You claimed liberal zionists are anti-genocide, anti-apartheid, anti-funding, actual real liberal Zionist bullshit rhetoric like "peace and two states, peace and two states" does not entail any of that
You don't even know basic facts about the enemy and you're yapping at me about purity of socialist politics
Already addressed in a different thread.
No you didn't, you made a bold-faced nonsensical assertion with no evidence, despite the fact Landers has successfully defused anti-semitic accusations against other DSA candidates, most predominantly Zohran, you have no clue what you're talking because you don't follow the actual course of the races
In a just world, anything short of denouncing Israel's right to exist should still get a politician sent to the Hague. It's depressing that this is as good as it gets.
if the left can get Jewish American politicians in the heart of Jewish America to utter these words, then we're winning
This is the main takeaway here. Lander still sucks, but the needle is clearly shifting.
jews can have a little fascism, as a treat
this is socialism, apparently
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Lander is a liberal Zionist
Better than Goldman, who is a megazionist
i would have hoped you got a better argument in the 6 months since they bumped the left candidate off the ticket
https://hexbear.net/comment/6744232
Israel was clearly not a top issue however. This is a "blame Netanyahu not Israel" kind of guy.
Would you rather have him or the "Israel did nothing wrong" kind of guy?
Malcolm X said the fox was deadlier than the wolf because the wolf doesn't pretend to be your friend while the fox makes you let your guard down.
You're assuming nobody knows Lander is a Fox; he's a Fox on a leash who will try to bite us later on, but he's also a useful shield that insulates DSA from anti-semitism accusations, which reality check, does hurt in New York
Surprise, surprise, now defending supporting a Zionist.
You literally want Susan Collins to win so Platner eats shit
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literal vote blue rhetoric that shows up everytime we discuss new york democrats
And I have actually been seeing a rise in just straight Zionism here. It's a bit disturbing.
not hard when the mod teams’ zionism was never dealt with. if you don’t cut it out, it spreads and festers, especially as arab and muslim users peep the vibe and leave the site
for example, the tolerance and celebration of a zionist being elected is zionist. the idea that jewish votes can only be attained through zionism is zionist. working with zionists is normalization of the colonial state
"Small genocide better than big genocide". Nah, fuck off.
Nobody said that, he's useful as a shield that defends the movement from anti-Semitism smears, you know that shit that tanked Corbyn's ass, and allows for real anti-Zionists to be elected more easily in the future
It's not theoretically, doctrinally or politically illegal for the left to have useful idiots
Nobody said that
Of course they did, it's what it means to lesser evil a liberal Zionist. Zionism is inherently genocidal.
he's useful as a shield that defends the movement from anti-Semitism smears
- Now *that" is a topic nobody was talking about.
- That barely works either. JVP was not particularly effective, for example. This is the logic given for working with or promoting JVP and every single person I organized with who had that logic became opportunist or was coopted into liberal projects and NGOs.
you know that shit that tanked Corbyn's ass
Corbyn lost for many reasons. Incompetency in responding to false smears of antisemitism was just emblematic of his meant strategic failures in the face of relentless media attacks. Having one Jewish guy saying, "I like Corbyn" would not have mattered. There werec meant Jewish people who did that. I know this becauss Corbyn had people like this, like Alex Sobel and JVL.
and allows for real anti-Zionists to be elected more easily in the future
Unprincipled liberal wishcasting.
It's not theoretically, doctrinally or politically illegal for the left to have useful idiots
The only case anyone can point to of the left trying to get Lander to do anything was when there was a campaign to divest from Elbit in his role as comptroller. He infamously pushed back and did not, and previously bragged about the investment.
"The left" is the useful idiot for liberals like him. He actually owes you nothing.
So to summarize this gish gallop gallery of doomer takes: Even if "liberal zionists" oppose genocide and sending money to Israel, that somehow doesn't matter and the fact American Jews voted for him over the ultra-Zionist is also irrelevant
The anti-Semitism smears somehow never hurt Corbyn at all and insulating against accusations and smears by centrists and the right-wing shouldn't be a priority for the American left
Anti-Zionists being elected is "liberal wishcasting", presumably because you think it's impossible or some shit, despite the fact anti-Zionists are getting elected?
And somehow the left are useful idiots for liberals like Landers despite the fact we just defeated an actual genocidal ultra-zionist and Landers was forced over the last year to change his positions and rhetoric on Israel
You realize you're just an ultra wrecker right?
So to summarize this gish gallop gallery of doomer takes: Even if "liberal zionists" oppose genocide and sending money to Israel
Why the scare quotes. That is a fairly common position for liberal Zionists to hold. Most of JVP is like this. Anyone who has organized on this topic it's familiar with what liberal Zionism looks like and questions of strategy when considering working with them.
PS, Gish gallop? What is this, a Sam Harris stan forum from 2008?
that somehow doesn't matter and the fact American Jews voted for him over the ultra-Zionist is also irrelevant
The Gish Gallop is "flooding the field", it's putting out so many points that nobody could ever respond in the time they have. It's an intellectually dishont approach to an in-person debate. I mention this because even though I am supposedly doing this, you are instead taking the time to invent positions on my behalf and respond to them instead.
The 2000s internet atheist reference of choice for this is "straw man". It is also a form of deflection, as you are specifically not responding to what I said. In our previous interactions this combination of invention and deflection was, unfortunately, the norm. But it is not comradely nor acceptable and I ask that you stop doing it.
The anti-Semitism smears somehow never hurt Corbyn at all
That is the exact opposite of my position. Please stop misrepresenting me.
and insulating against accusations and smears by centrists and the right-wing shouldn't be a priority for the American left
This is too vague to mean much. Of course protecting yourself from smears stated in vague terms is a benefit to yourself. It means the bad thing doesn't happen to you, or happens less. But that isn't what I'm arguing over. The deficit is in assigning so much significance to "this Jewish guy supports me", when that literally happened with Corbyn and it did. Not. Work. You are citing a future possibility as an important definite, I am pointing to the actual history you appealed to.
Anti-Zionists being elected is "liberal wishcasting", presumably because you think it's impossible or some shit, despite the fact anti-Zionists are getting elected?
Lander is a Zionist. What are you talking about?
And somehow the left are useful idiots for liberals like Landers despite the fact we just defeated an actual genocidal ultra-zionist and Landers was forced over the last year to change his positions and rhetoric on Israel
This is just going in circles. My proposition is that you look at liberal cooption as what it is rather than simply "the left" forcing him to do something. He hasn't actually done anything yet aside from use rhetoric to try and win an election and even then he is still Zionist. This is not a new phenomenon, not particularly to Zionism.
His name is Lander, by the way.
You realize you're just an ultra wrecker right?
I wonder what you even think that means in this context.
If being a liberal Zionist now means being anti-genocide, anti-apartheid, and anti-funding and then running on those policies in the heart of Jewish America, NY-10, and the winning on those policies, then WE THE LEFT ARE WINNING
Sorry the 'Nuke Tel Aviv' faction of the hypothetical socialist workers party in your head lost the seat to a liberal like Landers, but for those of us in reality who care about that a genocidal zionist monster like Dan Goldman ate shit, then this outcome is pretty optimal given current conditions
Now go back to arguing pseudo-Marxist semantics about why ultra-zionists winning is actually good for the Western left
Thank you for being a rare voice of reason here. Even if we don't agree with Lander on a truly critical matter, it's important that he supported Mamdani and defended him from smears. It's the opposite of what Elizabeth Warren did. It's good that he's being rewarded from this behavior.
Thanks, it's not easy but it has to be done, doomerism and anti-electoralism are dead ends, and people on this forum who wallow in that nonsense are simply self-marginalizing themselves from a growing anti-zionist and socialist movement out there
Socialists have to live in reality, not dreams of 1917
NY-10 is 25% Jewish, it's amazing to get someone elected in that district who has called the Gaza genocide a genocide. Lander is better than 99% of Congress on Israel
It is opportunism responding to a much larger and impactful series of world historical events and hard organizing work on the topic of Palestine. Nobody should be surprised that liberals will begin doing an apparent about-face to get elected via that strategy, nor that its form will be liberal Zionism.
bernie is better than most of congress on israel. still a settler fascist who believes jews have an right to palestinian land, just like lander
Who cares what he says? He supports the country doing the genocide. Biden called the Iraq War a mistake. That doesn't fix anything.
He would oppose anything that materially stopped the genocide.
>Jews for Racial and Economic Justice
>New York Jewish Agenda, a left-leaning group
Israel may have been a "top issue," but it's so curious how there are never disagreements on the """isreal""" 's right to exist. liberal colonist vs conservative colonist. makes sense given lander's own strategy though
Liberal or progressive Zionism makes no fucking sense. In order to keep Israel a Jewish country, that means settlements, concentration camps, murder, ethnic cleansing, etc. They want their land back, you don't. You can't both sides that issue, you can't fucking dress it up.
How do you do that progressively? Steal land but be really cool about it?
At the psychological level, you do it by ignoring the contradiction between personal ethnic supremacy and being cool with gay people and sometimes unions. Not being flippant about the latter, it's literally how they feel they're on the left and who the cynical Hasbara about "only gay bars in the middle east" and so on works on.
Liberals do this a lot, they're very inconsistent. "Progressives" in the US can't even muster being anti-war in (speech only!) half the time, let alone doing anything materially about it, even as their country invents reasons to invade and bomb others.
They're just controlled opposition. It's not supposed to make sense.
controlled opposition with a sizeable fan base on this accursed site
It's mostly CyborgMarx and company trying to gas up the latest socdem. Where's ZPoster when you need him?
Thought we lost them all in our last struggle session or two
No, the opposite. The site lost antizionists while the mods and admins ignored liberal Zionist rhetoric among them - and community rejection of this.
the zionists stay because they’re accommodated and coddled. why leave when you can celebrate radlibs while pretending to be marxists
it's a fucking joke. It's just less fashionable to be an outright fascist so they have to pretend to give a fuck about muslims
9 people at a table with a nazi mfs when you ask them about zionist/anti zionist coalitions
Many of the Founding Fathers has this idea that they were going to expand westward and take land from the natives in an amicable, voluntary way.
The "civilized" ones: "Hey, we want this land. I'm sure we can come to an agreeable business transaction, but if you don't, we'll kill you, and also, we won't hold to any of our agreements. Stop being angry! Can't you please be chill about this?"
"Hey so we let these settlers take some of your land and they weren't supposed to do that but also you weren't supposed to kill them so now we are going to 'reluctantly' kill and displace your entire people."
my best guesses:
liberal zionism makes sense to them in the context of being a status-quo guy opposed to both the expansionist greater israel types and to liberation.
it could stop expanding at any time and freeze the genocide in some stable equilibrium but the liberal zionists don't control the knesset or whatever it's called and the US isn't making them not expand.
progressive zionism would be that plus inter-jewish equality in israel instead of the racial and gender/orientation hierarchy they have now, and likewise rainbow washing the genocide by elevating the secondary contradictions in palestinian society.
it's all still genoicde, just maybe faster or slower and with or without gay marriage.
But even if you freeze it, you have thousands to millions of people next door who remember their parents or grandparents living right over where you are now, not to mention who remember their families being killed from every war Israel has started in the last 75 years including this one, and who are rightly pissed about it. They can't continue the status quo without the slow genocide they're doing now and the security apparatus that makes Gaza essentially a giant concentration camp.
It's like how Israelis love to slap people and then say ceasefire now, once they've had the last hit on their terms. It's really annoying.
The key is that apartheid has to be maintained. Even if expansion stopped, they could not remove apartheid without ending the core project. They actually yap about this all the time but they speak in terms of being "outnumbered" and "overwhelmed" if they didn't continue apartheid.
They went 3 for 3, everyone Mamdani backed won their primary. Apparently they also had hundreds of volunteers turning up to call and knock doors, to the point that literally everyone in those districts who voted Democratic in the past five years got contacted.
Brad Lander's liberal Zionism, in particular, is obviously irksome, but the fact that DSA totally swept these primaries is certainly impressive.
We'll see what happens once they're in office, but It'll at least be fun to watch chuds foam at the mouth about it, even more than they already were ¯_(ツ)_/¯
How is DSA winning a primary when a liberal Zionist Democrat is who won.
Edit: my question was rhetorical and I think folks have a misunderstanding so I'm bumping this here: Lander is not a DSA candidate. He's a liberal Zionist Democrat, he's been a Democrat for ages. His only proximity to DSA is that he endorsed Mamdani and Mamdani endorsed him.
So let's interrogate what it means to say the DSA swept.
because america doesn't have political parties, DSA doesn't run for seats under their own name, and they try to parasitize the democrats' institutional access but aren't doing ideological entryism thinking they'll change democrats as a whole.
it's cool they're mobilizing a bunch of people, it would be cooler if they used that outside of elections to do anything.
Lander isn't DSA at all what are you talking about. Lander is just a liberal Democrat.
This isn't a case of "using the party to get ballot access". At all.
i imagine it's "dsa sweep" on the headline because of his history with mamdani
Yes I think it's literally just that Mamdani-endorsed candidates won
because america doesn't have political parties, DSA doesn't run for seats under their own name, and they try to parasitize the democrats' institutional access but aren't doing ideological entryism thinking they'll change democrats as a whole.
This correct. The majority of DSA supports the so-called, "Dirty Break" strategy, where they'll break from the Democrats at some point in the future, while parasitizing them in the short term, and the conversion of DSA into a party now seems to be the majority position in the org, with various steps taken in that direction.
it's cool they're mobilizing a bunch of people, it would be cooler if they used that outside of elections to do anything.
NYC-DSA, in particular, is an electoral machine. It's impressive, but there definitely needs to be more going on. And to be fair, DSA is also engaged in a ton of labor and tenant organizing, through its associated mass organizations EWOC and ETOC, but that kind of stuff just doesn't get the same kind of air time, or focus as I think it should.
EWOC is a weird beast. While nominally a joint project with DSA there are instances with no DSA members and that actively avoid association with DSA. And many that are, unfortunately, little more than a LARP. There are still many that are good, though.
I mean, it's also a joint venture between DSA and United Electrical, so it makes some sense that there are EWOC folks who aren't in DSA.
I can't speak to elsewhere, but my local DSA chapter is very active in labor and tenant organizing. Tenant organising especially. Though I don't think we have local EWOC or ETOC branches
Yeah but I mean like an entire EWOC instance with like 8 members, none in DSA, where those members are actively wary of DSA and try to slow walk having any interactions with them whatsoever. Some DSA chapters have an... inconsistent and short-term labor focus and so many groups experience the "oh hey [local] DSA remembered we exist" phenomenon. Kind of a good case study for why it's important to maintain relationships and community embedding and not unique to DSA. These are the times when someone will ask, "why aren't we responding to this email?" and the answers will be filled with rumors, nobody present able or willing to correct them
Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Espaillat’s corrupt ass got primary’d.
'Prediction' markets in action lmao
neat
