I used to be an uber eats driver and lowkey
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On some of those late nights, especially when I picked up Indian food, I'd be hungry enough to genuinely consider this
wat? IDK how the delivery business works, but if I go to pick up a prepaid order for myself and they gave it to somebody else, I don't lose any money, they're fucking making it again.
$132? So he made off with a small smoothie and a side of fries then?
Gig delivery is a rotten model to its core. You are better off learning to cook, driving or walking to pick up your food, or calling the business directly if they have their own drivers. Its hard I know, but so is paying an extra tax on every item, plus service fees, just to have an app do it
Door Dash customer service is trash. Used them one time, driver dropped off the wrong order, best that customer service could do was a partial refund as credit. Did a charge back through my bank and uninstalled the app.
It's strange, I've literally had zero issues with them. I have had to refund orders a few times, and it's usually automatically done in seconds. Maybe it's different in different areas.
I used to live in apartments with an address set up of "(building) letter + (unit) number." Maps and GPS didn't direct people to the unit you put in, instead directing every address to the rental office, regardless of what building you actually lived in.
It made deliveries hell. If the space for written directions was available, I would copy/paste directions I had pre-written so the drivers could find my specific unit. I put those directions in both English and Spanish, since so many drivers spoke Spanish primarily.
I was in building L, but the address line wouldn't let you capitalize letters. So my unit would always print out as "l", which delivery drivers (who didn't read my clear instructions) would think was a capital i.
After twice having my food delivered to the wrong address and arguing with drivers about it, I gave up entirely. But both times I contacted Doordash to say my food wasn't delivered, and thankfully, I got full refunds on both. I should note that the Doordash account was a perk from my workplace, where the fees weren't included, so maybe having some kind of "premium" account factored into the response. Still, it just wasn't worth the hassle. The way I see it, the whole point of food delivery is not having to get out of my pajamas and leave the house. If I'm going to have to get dressed and drive across the massive complex to get my food anyway, I might as well just pick it up from the restaurant myself and cut out the middle man.
They do this so often yet they always get new customers from the dumb and lazy pool. They'll never go out of business.
how insulting a "partial refund" at least a full refund for the first few times.
If you’re still using this after it’s happened several times I feel like that’s kind of on you for continuing to use an obviously shit service
I even asked if they could just send another dasher to get my actual order, and they wouldn't do anything until the next day.
I was reading an story on Reddit about a guy who worked as a door dash driver, and he basically said that this is the requirement to meet the necessary ROI for a real job. He listed off a million tricks to maximize profits. If you refuse low-cost/low-tip orders, Doordash will tend to prompt you with higher value orders, and give the low-value orders to the people who won't refuse them, so you can gradually build your way into the premium customer base. If an order will deliver to a low-income area, it's not always worth the trip back to a high income area by the nice restaurants, so he usually refused those too. It was honestly an awful testimonial to read, everything he listed off screws over his fellow man because Door dash makes it impossible to screw them over for even a penny.
I’m convinced that the real goal of most tech these days is not to solve problems, but to make them someone else’s problems.
You’re a driver and think we’re not paying you enough? Sorry, our hands are tied, it’s all algorithmic.
You want sick time and health care? Sorry, since your manager is an app you’re technically not an employee but an independent contractor.
You want the food you paid for? Sorry, that’s between you and the driver and/or restaurant. We’re just a mediator.
And then they dupe some of us into blaming the consumers or workers. This is not a problem you can solve with market forces.
They act this way because the regulatory environment allows them to, not because they’re carefully watching what consumers think.
Remember, these are companies that are willing to burn billions to shut down any threats to their business models. By all means, be choosy with where you spend your money and who you work for. But don’t delude yourself into thinking that’s how we win.
I think this is just society at this point. So much of my therapy was learning to not let other people make their problem my problem, society seems stuck in that mindset too, you don’t need to solve anything just outsource your problems to someone else, you’ll still have problems but now you can be mad at a person no a concept or obstacle so that’s somehow… better?
This is 100% why these services exist. Running a.business with emplpyees who are delivery deivers is expensive, especially when benefits and insurance are required.
Hence the push for these bull shit "gig work" style apps.
Now you get people who maybe make 10% more as a Door Dasher than they wpuod directly working as say, a Pizza Hut driver dirrctly. Without realizing they are making basically halfnas much because they also get to cover all the backend expense Pizza Hutt wpuld cover.
The way we win is unionizing, that's why they're so scared of that.
Thats a nice way of putting it. I always just thought of it as inserting themselves into things that worked fine before but now they extract margin from everyone involved.
I used to just phone a local business and someone would who worked for them would bring me food. It worked fine.
our local thai restaurants have gone back to that model. they all share the same delivery guy, but they don't use doordash. it's more honest and fair for everyone involved.
A couple of our locals have now. Haven't used an app in years. It was always a terrible experience and way more expensive.
One of them you can pay by card on delivery, the driver brings a wireless card terminal. Works great.
It still works for so many places, all you need to do is pick up the phone and ask. Some have order forms on their websites too and you usually get a better deal.
But beware, some of those App companies create URLs for businesses (without their knowledge or consent) to reroute your search back to their App.
By all means, be choosy with where you spend your money and who you work for. But don’t delude yourself into thinking that’s how we win.
There should be a bot that responds with this every fucking time somebody says "boycott."
(I say as someone who has been boycotting several large companies for decades, to zero observable effect.)
yeah i can't remember the last time i bought nestle baby formula either
Pictured: every single commenter who came into this thread to blame the victim because they think $130 on delivery is too decadent. Yall should be ashamed of yourselves.
Spending ANY money on a food delivery service unless you physically cannot get it cause you’re laid up or sick or something is a waste of money.
$1 is too decadent, go get your own damn food or make some
Ok boomer
i mean, 130 on delivery is decadent. we all deserve some decadence though. life sucks and decadence is how some of us recharge.
I had this happen to me. The GrubHub driver parked on the curb around the corner in front of my neighbors house. Proceeds to take a photo of their house from the car as "delivery confirmation" and then literally peeled out taking off with my food when she saw me walk outside. I got lucky though, GrubHub refunded the order.
How many people you feeding for $132?
After delivery fees and tips, that's roughly a meal for 2 people, plus a dessert. And a drink, which the driver left at the restaurant.
I cannot, in any way, shape, or form, justify that kind of money on what you just said. Our grocery pickup to get us the next two weeks was $132 and we were being generous this time.
I knew several people who would have a smoothie or some shit doordashed to work daily while simultaneously complaining they can't afford food
Yeah, I woke up late for a meeting one morning, and figured I'd try ordering a doughnut and coffee from door dash (my wife door-dashed/grubhub'd all the time, so I figured it wouldn't be too crazy expensive), it was going to cost me 19 dollars to get a 6 dollar doughnut and coffee from a few blocks down the street. And then it suggested a 5 dollar tip for the driver.
Fuck that shit, I just went hungry that morning.
i am related to people like that. do NOT get me started.
Maybe they just love melted smoothies and cant figure out how to make them as good as doordash can
As a treat it's worth it once in a while but definitely not regularly unless you are quite wealthy.
What are you ordering? I've seen Michelin star restaurants with cheaper options.
Take whatever the price of your food is, multiply it by 1.3-1.5 because restaurants have to make up the 30% they pay the company, then add an extra $30 for taxes, fees, and a tip. Food delivery got boiling frog'd like rideshares after market capture and needing to stop subsidizing post-IPO. Funnily enough drivers are making less than they ever have despite all the price increases, funny how that works.
Wow sounds like a terrible service no one should be using because it sucks for almost everyone involved
I just checked and the most expensive restaurant I found in delivery platforms in Berlin costs about 35 Euros per person (with drink, taxes and delivery but without the tip). In most restaurants that would be the price of both meals. 100+ for delivery food is bananas, especially since the transportation is never kind on the food.
I love going to grocery stores in Berlin, the prices are incredible when you’re used to the US and the quality of vegetables/fruits much higher. Prices are close to twice as high often here. Restaurants only concentrate that price discrepancy. There is no way that I could get a full meal delivered for $40 including taxes and charges unless it was fast food.
I can’t imagine agreeing to spend $40 on fast food
It’s wild isn’t it?!
I can't even get two mains in Geneva for 35€ (well, CHF) most of the time 😅
I think it also depends on where you live. I would be shocked to see American food prices in comparable French or German restaurants. We are used to overpaying on the basics much less meal delivery apps.
uber eats takes a percentage out of the order, so the restaurants surcharges to compensate.
That could be a family of four or so. After charges, taxes, fees, and tip my husband and I often end up paying $70-80 for delivery food service in the US.
Restaurant bill for 2 yesterday was $350... It's easily achievable too if you aren't careful, and no single item seems that expensive until you add it all up.
That's more than our monthly grocery budget for two...
Must be nice. Our monthly grocery budget for two at the discount grocery store is $600
Must be nice to be able to spend $600 on groceries...
That could be a feral colony of lepers. After taxes and charges, my paramour and I often end up paying an arm and a leg for food delivery in antiquity
I often wonder. What happens if the uber eats guy drives up to your house, puts down the bag, takes a photo, picks the bag back up, and leaves with it?
This happens all the time. For the customer, they'll get a refund if it's the first time it's happened to them, but if it keeps happening then they'll likely be denied refunds after a while, as support will assume the customer is lying to get free food (unless they submit doorbell cam footage, which they often do). For the driver, nothing will happen to them, but if customers keep reporting their food as stolen then eventually the driver will be removed from the platform, as support will assume the driver is stealing.
I'm REALLY surprised that story hasn't already ended in a class action or some shit. I mean I charge back literally everything even slightly not as advertised and I've been banned on zero platforms other than reddit, but that was for pointing out the admin team commiserates actively with child sex slave traffickers.
Reddit will permabanned you for NOT being verifiably evil.
I got permabanned after saying apple isn't great for privacy (on r/privacy)
It’s what the other commenter said. Generally if you’re a good customer they refund you no questions asked.
I actually had a food delivery guy drop off my food but steal a package from my porch. Even with the footage, you should have seen how fast they clammed up.
So food theft, no problem. Other theft “get a subpoena”.
I rarely have issues with deliveries, but the odd times I have had issues I've been refunded in full to my card and received coupons for my troubles. No questions asked.
Most of my issues have been with the restaurants themselves. I have a very specific yet easily avoidable food allergy. So when I find said ingredient liberally sprinkled on top of my food for decoration, I know the restaurant simply didn't read my order.
As typical with social media comments, half of them aren't even concerned about the driver blatantly stealing food. It's about attacking the person using the service without knowing the details. And I don't think anyone brought up how shitty the drivers gets paid (the ones who actually do the job right).
I know the response - then get another job. That's silently approving the company's methodology, nice.
As a past door dash driver, tips should be upfront and unchangeable. It’s ridiculous how many times we’re get a big order and then never tipped, which ended up to be like 6$/h
It's on the company to pay you properly.
Heavily agree!
But in the USA they don’t, so that’s why we don’t live there anymore and why we don’t do that kind of work anymore either
The shop is just two street corners away, move your ass there and pay for it yourself
"Two street corners": https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Pita+Stop,+202+Joliet+St,+Dyer,+IN+46311/2600-2798+Squire+Ct,+Dyer,+IN+46311/
You underestimate american suburban development. Yeah, that's a 45 minute walk, each way.
Yes, it seemed smaller in the map the meme showed. However it is around 6 min by car, I wouldn't make someone drive that distance for my convenience.
You can’t make someone drive any distance for your convenience. That driver signed up for UberEats, made themselves available for deliveries that day, and then chose to take that particular order.
There are also people who have limited mobility. If it's 2 street corners away, whats keeping the driver which gets paid from making the delivery instead of fucking off to the other end of town?
but I am le tired
Well, have a nap! ZEN FIRE ZE MISSILES!!
I am le tired too. It gets so hot here, I don’t want to go outside.
Nah. Cuz frankly, if you are willing to pay that much for a delivered meal, then you deserve for some stupid bullshit to happen. Door dash would not be able to exist in a world with sane and deliberating consumers. You let them take advantage of you, especially if you know how they work and their reputation.
You’re right.
People talk about “voting with your wallet” then turn around and dump their hard earned cash into the pockets of rich tech bros while crying they can’t afford it and take zero responsibility for the fact they’re making the choice to eat worse, pay more and have shit like this happen left and right.
If you KNOW something is a scam and you still choose to interact with that yes you are partially responsible and yes you are contributing to the larger problem at hand, sucks to hear but sometimes we need to be honest with our selves so we can make better choices.
I don't care at all if someone rips off an evil corporation, steal away, but stealing FOOD from citizens is reprehensible, no matter who it is.
Doordash is an evil corporation that taxes idiots by middlemaning for them. By paying for a meal through them, you are enabling them to continue doing that. They are very literally stealing food from people, but they do it through the margins. Not tryna defend the drivers that do this, but they have to eat too and when you are employed through doordash, stealing probably is the best way to do that.
Damn. You are trash.
Dude has a point. 137 dollars? What the fuck are we doing? Why do we keep doing it? Its not entirely the users fault. But like, I dont use any of these services. They're practically cold food scams.
Is it actually hard to imagine someone ordering food for like 8 people?
8 people on door dash is more than 137, same with Uber Eats. That'd be closer to a 200 dollar bill. My cousin uses it everyday and it has increased his food costs by 40%. Thats insane.
8 was obviously an estimate. Replace with a different number. I have used it before and $25 per person wouldn't be common for people who aren't batshit insane with their money. Just as with most things, you can spend stupid amounts of money or you can be more sensible.
I mean just eating out in general is the most expensive way to feed yourself, does your cousin just not know how to cook?
I personally just have a shit ton of fake accounts so I can cycle through and use the 50% off "new customer" discounts, but trying to do that everyday wouldn't work LMAO it should be reserved for maybe a weekly thing, a treat for if you're drunk/stoned on a fri/sat night
My husband used to order most of his meals through delivery services just for convenience and because he earned enough so could afford it. I had never ordered a meal on an app before so we had very different approaches to it when we met. It led to a bit of friction until we figured out a weekly dinner compromise: 3-4 days of home cooked fish/rice/veggies, 2-3 days of easy home cooked meals like salad/pasta/pizza/frozen bao, and 1 day of meal delivery. It’s still not my favorite but my husband compromised his stance much more than I did so I stay graceful about it.
In the long run you’re saving his life. Restaurant food is so calorie dense compared to homemade
Idk, but if he does it everyday a shit ton of people are and thats a problem. I see it all over the place. The power of convenience must be immense for a lot of people.
$132 actually.
I just grew up poor and find the level of fiscal irresponsibility involved in ride sharing your meals appalling. Not one of those “pull yourself up from your bootstraps” guys (there are lots of forces that keep people in poverty), but you might aswell be lighting money on fire if you get doordash.
I grew up poor as well but I sorta also think you’re trash.
This person could be getting a catered bbq spread for a family. The idea that you automatically assume this is one person buying something for themselves shows you're just looking for a reason to be angry.
I could feed 10 people ribs and potato salad and it wouldn't even come close to breaking a hundo (I usually feed more on labor day). That is the power of doing your own cooking.
What if the customer is incapable of some or all of the chain of tasks required to produce the home cooked equivalent?
Could be they work pretty much their whole waking life, running 3 or more jobs.
Could be they're disabled and can't do grocery shopping, or food prep, or cooking.
Before you judge someone, spend a few minutes imagining why exactly the circumstances are the way they are, and aim for a bit beyond the hateboner fantasy you already had in mind, yeah?
You have really made a character there. My 90 yo grandma gets by on getting her groceries delivered. Most places do that themselves since the pandemic (or you can get curbside.) and you dont even have to pay doordash for it.
It is crazy how much of a price difference there is in between ordering and shopping/cooking. We’re really lucky to have a weekly farmers market with an incredible fish stand. They sell better quality and cheaper fish than Whole Foods so that compounds our savings too.
I just keep using their 50% off "new customer" coupons over and over through various means, they don't make a profit as-is and they definitely don't make a profit off me
Taking advantage of their coupons it usually costs about the same driving myself and ordering directly or sometimes cheaper (including tip)
I used to do that with the meal delivery services (like hello fresh) mostly to see where the quality and portion sizes were at. Even when they were heavily discounted the math didn’t math though, I could still go to a grocery store and get more for less. You pay a lot for convenience no matter what when it comes to food.
For meal prep services they definitely charge for convenience but the meal does end up costing less than eating something comparable at a restaurant or delivery. What I liked most about it was the you could indulge in variety with the exact portions already provided so you don’t have to buy a bunch of different spices that accumulate and loose flavor over time. It was also convenient for single serving meals when a lot of ingredients at the store are not packaged that way in the US. Agreed, convenience costs though, for me delivery services were worth the compromise when I was single.
I kept getting spam from Hello Fresh for 75% off if you reactive your subscription, so I did and promptly cancelled again. I repeated this for 6 weeks, for 6 meals for 2 people for $28 each week. It was great while it lasted.

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