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Ey ich frag doch nur
Lefty MemesI think this flag would be more appropriate here because its used by nazbols
Why not both? I just found the meme in the wild
Even just the wording reveals the idealism: "I believe in"... No one gives a fuck what you believe in. Marx never said "we must believe in these things". And this jumble of concepts contains elements that are in completely different categories. The recognition of revolutionary potential in the proletariat and the use of labor unions to express power is an empirical analysis, not a belief system. The recognition of human rights is either moral objectivism (which is a form of idealism and decidedly anti-Marxist) or it's a super structural tool and/or propaganda tool.
Leftism isn't virtue signalling.
Everyone has an ideology and values. Some are aware of it and reflect on them, others aren't able to do so. The latter group includes both tankies and neoliberals among others.
Indeed, everyone does have ideology and values. Tankies are pretty vocal about theirs.
So you do believe in something?
Imagine having no ideals and human values, like a nazi 🤭
You understand Nazis are idealists right? Like a common dog whistle among them is calling themselves "true idealist" or "actual idealist". You may not like their ideals and many of them may not actually closely follow their ideals but they do have them. Their understanding of the world begins with an ideal and ends in applying it to the material world, something liberals have in common with them.
Blocking that asshole was wildly satisfying
Imagine thinking "leftism" is "believing in things that indicate my goodness"
I don't understand your reply. I'm non anglophone and online translation didn't help
The image you posted indicates that "true leftists" are different from tankies because true leftists "believe in" a bunch of concepts that are socially constructed as "good things to believe in"
Yes. And? You think your constructed concept is good because your bubble tells you. What's your point?
I don't think my constructed concept is "good" at all. I don't use morality as a tool for evaluating geopolitics, revolutionary politics, and large timescale social movements. It's a form of idealism that obscures reality instead of clarifying it.
Marxism doesn't say anything about "believing in good things". It is a philosophy of understanding the world as fundamentally material, which precludes concepts like objective morality, and using that foundational understanding to do systems analysis on to understand how human society works, understand where it is headed, understand how we can change it.
Why change it if it's not good nor bad to change it?
You don't need to prove us that tankies brainlessly simp for authority and have no morals. That's pretty much the point
Yeah that's generally how ideology works lmao.
Not us though! Our god personally instructed us on the sacred sciences. It's not subjective at all.
Actually it's incredibly subjective. Objectivity itself is an incredibly suspect concept and the idea that we should all be striving to reveal the one single objective truth is a feature of failed philosophies and in particular fascist worldviews.
Marxism doesn't claim to be objective, it is a methodology for working with complex interconnected convolutional dynamic systems. Not all Marxists arrive at the same conclusions in theory, and they don't all interpret observations to indicate the same thing. However, as more observations are made and examined, Marxism provides the path to converging closer to a shared and comprehensive understanding, just like any science does, because it's not a series of factual claims but rather a process of developing understanding.
Well tell your mods to stop acting like fools then. Their thought policing makes no sense unless you have some "objective" sense that their exact understanding of the world is correcr.
Leftism isn't virtue signalling.
every REAL leftist knows leftism is about telling everyone online how hard you are
If that's Marxism, throw it out and start over because it utterly fails at a basic test of humanity.
So in a Marxist world nobody has any rights.
And we wonder why people recoil from it.
There is only one world, we think anyway. In the Marxist view of the world, Rights are human-invented construct that serve a function. If the only world you want to live in is one where Rights are an objective reality that inhere to entities by some magic, I don't know what to tell you
I’d like to live in a world where I can’t be hauled away for saying “fuck Stalin.”
