A meme
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This is how all of the libertarian left looks according to some people here:
You mean libertarian like anti-authoritan? People with that attitude [tankies] can't handle any form of freedom and will always simp for a Führer who thinks for them.
I'm using the actual meaning of libertarian, so yes in part like anti-authoritarian. BTW, I hate that there's even a need for clarification, American free-market liberals using 'libertarian' to describe their ideal of laissez-faire capitalism is so annoying.
Ya same here in Germany with the liberal (markets) party. But they erased themselves from the parliaments
I would like to remind you of rule 0.5, please add some alt text to this image. Something as simple as; "A man with a CIA hat typing on a computer" should do.
done!
Thanks!
Just as a tip for the future, markdown actually has a built-in way to include alt text. In the CommonMark format that Lemmy uses, you can format an image like this: ![This is alt text]().
It associates the description directly with the file, which works much better for accessibility than typing it as a separate line below, and keeps the content looking clean for everyone else. I don't know how much of a diffrence it actually makes though, I don't have first hand experence with a screen reader, just what people have told me.
Fixed! I had a feeling that's what that was for, but I didn't want to mess up and look like an idiot on the Internet!
Real af they doing everything to delegitimate commies by making tankies a slur. It's so mask off at this point it's actually funny that libs and other leftists fall for it hook line and sinker.
Are you really that paranoid that you think I'm some CIA dude? Or can't you believe that hate just always has been dismissed by leftists? Tankies never were accepted within the left spectrum. Of course tankies claim otherwise because they want to pretend to be supported
I don't think anyone's actually mistaking you for CIA, just some dumbass liberal parrot who can only say "tankie bad".
Mistaking, yes
How convenient that the biggest "human rights abuses" are coming from the geopolitical enemies of the western capitalist class.
Further, kind of hypocritical to make a meme that simultaneously champions leftism and "human rights" - a term that Marx decried as bourgeois, and really isn't used in class analysis. It's an idealistic way of viewing power and rights.
In order to understand Marx’s position within the history of the Rights of Man, one needs to understand On the Jewish Question in its entire logical connectivity: as a grand scheme within which the critique of the Rights of Man fits contextually. In this essay, Marx launched his first attack on “civil society” and its impact in fostering “egoistic life”; he avowed that “man […] leads a two-fold life, a heavenly and earthly life: life in the political community, in which he considers himself a communal being, and life in civil society, in which he acts as a private individual.” Since the sphere of egoism, in all its “abstract” arbitrariness, separates man from his community, and since the State was the political child of civil society, Marx wrote, the only way to destroy both was to destroy the parent: civil society. It followed, then, that the Rights of Man, which demonstrated an ontological conflict yet still existed in a “spiritual” relation with the State, were consequently “nothing but the rights of a member of a civil society, i.e., the rights of egoistic man, of man separated from other men and from the community.”
Given that the Rights of Man were political rights, they were deeply ingrained within the illusory sovereignty of the State. And since the State was the child of civil society—the society which Marx wished the demise of—the Rights of Man would be automatically abolished along with them. It is made obvious here that the establishment of a political state devoid of concepts such as law, privileges, and rights should become the only way to achieve the final stage desirable for society: a stage described by a political program leading to the emancipation of mankind and resulting in a recognition of their species-being, all to the detriment of bourgeois ideology.
Allen Buchanan has taken this argument even further by claiming that the goal of Marx’s critique of ideology was to highlight the fact that “capitalist conceptions of justice, like other juridical conceptions, presuppose certain factual generalizations which are usually taken for granted.” These generalizations present themselves as an illusion of symmetry between the worker and the exploiter—the free competitive market—that the capitalist puts in place. The free competitive market was, according to Marx, supported and maintained by the Rights of Man that had been articulated in the French and American constitutions. These rights were not eternal truths about the nature of man. Making an example of the right to liberty, Marx saw such rights as the root cause of “the separation of man from man.”
https://www.jhiblog.org/2021/09/08/rethinking-civil-rights-with-marx/
This meme is not leftist. This meme is textbook liberalism.
i agree that the entire language of rights is bad for freedom and equality. i have a different approach but marx got there before me, published widely and articulately, and i may as well use this passage when i bring it up.
great comment.
Amazing, every word of what you just said was cringe.
Well, yeah. Real Marxism would be cringe to a liberal.
Not sure why you brought up Marx here, a man who has more in common with anarchists than with tanies.
I also didn't even read your quote of some random other person lol. Stop your weird idolisation kink and just say what you mean
that's cringe
I didn't even read it
Ight.
Yes only quoting without being able to say something on your own is cringe.
Not being able to read is more cringe
Not being able to read is more cringe
What a fascist stance. Also, I am able to read and read everything they wrote on their own here
Wow I don't think you could satarize a lib response as good as this, bravo. Keep up the good fight against literacy comrade, big words are scary and so are new thoughts.
So you too can't rephrase anything of the bs because you're not even able to understand what you're praying to? Instead you're going full psycho lol.
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I've just noticed you keep spaming "tankie bad" memes here with absolutely no substance. Doesn't seem like you've got any other thoughts bouncing around in there.
I'd suggest reading more, but you seem pretty against that so idk.
I was posting 2 memes about the topic and you think that's all I can think of? Do 2 memes fill out your complete perceptual and cognitive spectrum?
I also don't get it why you're taking it so personally and can't stop bitching around. You could contribute content on your own or be a bitch about other people's content, people who you even claim to belong to lol. Rent free in your head and it's fucking disgusting..
This is what tankies do. They have 0 ability of actually being able to argue with you. They just slap you with walls of text copy pasted from some book or article and call it a day.
I wonder how many of these memes aimed at dividing the left are made by folks on the left.
I’m going with….probably not many.
Fuck tankies
But fuck fascists more.
Well, that's my schedule packed for the week...
Of course, but that doesn't make tankies my friends.
Both are
It's not dividing if you distance yourself from people who are not like you but want to pretend to because they're just a clownish minority
I wonder how many of these memes aimed at dividing the left
What's the point of "dividing" two things that are already violently incompatible?
So much this. As an opponent of nation states i have a lot of disagreements with proponents of powerful states.
But i spend my time online denigrating fascists, the actual enemy, who are in power in my country and ascendant globally.
I don't waste my time denigrating all the potential allies on one side of me as libs and on the side as tankies.
Exactly. The enemy of my enemy is my friend and what not. There’s certainly a narrower divide to cross, anyways. I know my misguided racist neighbor and I have way more in common than we do with billionaires. The billionaires know that too.
Was this meme actually made by CollegeHumor I wonder.
Idk. I also don't really know about CollegeHumor. Just found the meme in the wild

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