United KingdomThat's because he didn't go to debate, he went to shit stir and play the victim when confronted. Slap it up ye. Ballbag.
Bell end. For those not from our beloved Manchester, this is a traditional "tough love" term of endowment for someone, who, despite the multitude failures of their logic, debate weaknesses, lack of corroborative evidence will persevere nonetheless.
If he returns, let's promise 20 quid for the first person to de-bag him. For those not familiar with Manchester phraseology, this is a raconte driven loss of your trousers.
If we can find five people who at school with this chap, queued to copy this gentleman's homework, I will desist from further mockery. Until such time, he remains on the open season list for candid ridicule of his arguments
Nah mate, let's pick him up, dump him in a canal, and then pelt him with bits of broken brick as he tries to swim and climb out whilst calling him an absolute melt.
I love that for Manchester.
We do things differently here.
What a cunt. Deserved it.
It warms the cockles of my heart!
I had no idea who Young Bob was until a video of him in the front lines of the rioting in Southampton and then being interviewed by Owen Jones in Makerfield. He's certainly not a British Charlie Kirk: has zero charisma, couldn't understand Jones' (pretty basic) questions and struggled to articulate coherent answers. Jones had to continuously repeat and simplify his questioning and even then Young Bob couldn't comprehend. He's the big, loud-mouthed rightwinger who sits in Year 11 classes who won't stop giving his racist and misogynist views and everyone hates.
It doesn't matter. If you get over a certain threshold of views and interactions it's like starting a fire, it spreads on its own. The right jump right on it, they love this shit, and more and more people get radicalized because it gets in their feed and since everything is black and white and about outrage and culture war shit you get people on your side simply because if you're not on "the other side" you're by definition on their side, or so it's framed.
And yeah, I believe at some point violence is the answer.
I'd rather fight obese chavs now than having to storm Normandy in 20 years.
I like the bit where he thinks he's been oppressed because he got fired from McDonald's for been an arse. You just know that he was insufferable to work with.
Did he turn to the left at the end?
And just like Charlie Kirk I'd never heard of him until he got beaten up. If the media would just stop talking about these idiots they wouldn't be famous they'd just be random Twitter racists and we could all ignore them. But now the little dweeb has got a following.
They get the following from social media and far right fraternity, not from media coverage.
‘If I were… ever able to have the opportunity to speak to Erika [Kirk], I would firstly give huge admiration towards her husband on the formula and ideas that I [drew] great inspiration from’.
He can save his breath, she's utterly ecstatic that her husband is dead.
"the formula"
"I wanted to thank you for your husband's method of psychological indoctrination and spreading hate, we owe all our wealth to this pioneer"
Anyone who aspires to be like Charlie Kirk should enjoy the exact same ending as Charlie Kirk.
No, we are British. Stabbed and left to bleed out on the floor is more of our style.
Ha! Keeping the trash out of your streets
Under a banner that read ‘Reform should be more radical’, he argued that subjects of the British Empire shouldn’t necessarily be welcome in the UK.
As a crowd gathered behind him, he said: ‘All of you who throw water are cowards. You don’t actually want to fight for what you believe in.’
. . . That was when he was kicked to the floor before his phone was smashed and his camera and banner were stolen.
. . . Eventually, a Black man he had been debating with steps in to protect him.
. . . Moffitt also hinted that he would return to the same spot for further debates on ‘remigration’ – the forced return of migrants and their descendants – but next time would bring a ‘team of lads’ for security.
subjects of the British Empire
He's gonna lose his shit when he finds out about Suez.
There are still subjects knocking around. Indians and Irish born before 1949, for instance. There are 17,000, of which 15,000 have right of abode in Britain.
You missed the best quote from this little piss stain. "One responded: ‘I’ll fight you, b****’, before telling Moffitt to get a job. He said he had one, but was fired from McDonald’s for his political views."
The idiot, even after working in the hospitality sector, does not realise that this whole sector depends on the immigrants, among others. He is probably the kind of idiot that goes to a curry house after an anti-immigrant march.
Fuck me, to get fired for your views at McDonald's you must have really been an obnoxious little cunt.
Having worked in McDonald's I can guarantee that he was actually fired for been lazy and difficult to work with. If you just do the job and don't mount off you can have whatever political view you want.
The beauty of capitalism.
We don't care if you're a nazi. As long as you make us money we could literally not give less of a shit.
Right-wing politics is dominated by losers turned grifters.
One small correction in that they don't stop being losers
I don't mind conservatives. They're not the cists and phones they get thrown around
This rag is doing some heavy lifting for this piece of shit. I hope he sees the error of his ways or ceases to be able to vote or interact with anyone.
"Hope" is doing a lot of heavy lifting for this piece of shit.
So is OP...
They quoted the shit stain saying the cops told him he was high profile.
The quote is Moffat telling the media that he says the police said that it's high profile. I highly doubt they did because it doesn't really make sense.
It can't be a high profile attack because no one knows who he is. Anyone who went to where he went, and said the things he said, would have got punched, his celebrity or lack thereof is it irrelevant.
And OP choose to highlight that without context
Counting or not counting hooligan violence?
I'm sure his mind was changed on some level...
A rare British w
He got a well-deserved debeating.
This is the way.
This really warmed my heart 🥲
Is this the second time?
I don't like these types any more than most sane people do, but I'm not really a fan of stooping to their level, either.
Anyone who is advocating for "remigration" is advocating for the use of violence to remove racial minorities.
If you are a pacifist and you don't believe in violence in any circumstance, then fine. But if ever there is a time to use violence in defence of ourselves and the vulnerable in our society, I believe it's now, before the state is captured by fascists. I think that if we had another Battle of Cable Street instead of a counter-protest at the next few "Unite the Kingdom" rallies (or whatever they call them these days) then we'd sort this shit out real fast.
But it's back to the arguement about the paradox of tolerance. If you don't beat these people they'll keep doing it. Given that they're calling for the lives of others to be destroyed inaction is not really an option.
Someone's going to suffer either way, might as well be the little skid mark that's causing the problem to begin with.
So I would love to know what your proposed solution is.
The "paradox of tolerance" implies that you need constitutional guarantees against threats to democracy, not that you can go around beating people up for being anti-immigrant loudmouth prick.
We have legal prohibitions against hate speech and incitement that have been arrived at democratically: deciding that they don't go far enough so you're going to take matters into your own hands is not just violent and lawless but supremely arrogant.
It also plays into the fascists' desire for violence. It's wrong morally, legally and practically.
All of this is true, and this guy is still a shitstain who ought to shut up.
The ~~anti‐Semite~~ fascist has chosen hate because hate is a faith; at the outset he has chosen to devaluate words and reasons. How entirely at ease he feels as a result. How futile and frivolous discussions about the rights of ~~the Jew~~ others appear to him. He has placed himself on other ground from the beginning. If out of courtesy he consents for a moment to defend his point of view, he lends himself but does not give himself. He tries simply to project his intuitive certainty onto the plane of discourse...
...Never believe that ~~anti‐ Semites~~ fascists are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The ~~anti‐Semites~~ fascists have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past. It is not that they are afraid of being convinced. They fear only to appear ridiculous or to prejudice by their embarrassment their hope of winning over some third person to their side.
- Jean-Paul Sartre
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Jean-Paul_Sartre
Fascists don't care about words or reasoning. They spread hate, discrimination, and lies and when challenged spout more lies to justify it. Even if presented with cold hard, unrefutable, facts.
When words, debate, and diplomacy can no longer prevent the calls to violence, the bigotry, the intolerance, then there is but one option; to speak the language they do understand.
The paradox of tolerance is a philosophical concept suggesting that if a society extends tolerance to those who are intolerant, it risks enabling the eventual dominance of intolerance, thereby undermining the very principle of tolerance.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
They're using that age old rhetorical device of children of asking "why" forever regardless of the answer just to annoy their parents.
In this case they are adults and if someone can't answer their questions the way they want then they're right by default. And they believe they are great minds in the process.
Yeah waiting it out and seeing them realize the error of their ways through slow social isolation has definitely happened and there definitely aren't any ramifications to letting themselves simply spew their hate speech out into the world.
Nothing bad ever happened to us when we stayed out of the mud, except for, you know, fucking everything, you asshat.
The next time someone you love is murdered and/or harassed because the murderer/harasser was inspired by a Charlie Kirk wannabe, remember to be the "bigger person" and don't stoop to their level. 🖕🏽
Considering he wants people's lives destroyed, I'd say beating his ass was a kindness. It's the closest thing to effective communication you can get with a Nazi without doing even worse to them.
Then you're a part of the problem, namby-pamby fence sitters
No liberal lefty cunt is gonna tell me punching Nazis ain't the way If you wanna hold hands and sing go do it over there while the big boys play OK
- Bob Vylan
They didn't stoop to his level, he's a racist, fascist piece of shit. I'd say they were patient and kind, all things considered.
