We live in the future!
(midwest.social)
Programmer Humorcross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/9525207
Every time someone posts this meme, I feel compelled to add "forums for communists".
I think your priorities are in the wrong place if you think about "forums for communists" instead of "telegram channels with incel nazis".
I interpreted it as them mentioning lemmy (since lots of lemmy users are communists or socialists of some flavor), but if they meant to complain I agree with you completely
The first two depend on centralized services and nonfree software, which are things I don't like. The third doesn't. The fourth doesn't have to.
So by those metrics I like cryptocurrency the most. In fact I have invested a bit of my savings in Bitcoin. I have never used Uber or AirBnB meanwhile.
Fake money for criminals helped me buy weed when I didn't have a local dealer. It's also how I pay for Mullvad. So fake money for criminals wins.
I miss when that was what the fake money was for instead of the bullshit broligarch grift.
The exposure of hotels using surveillance pricing. A room should cost a hunnert bucks a night. Not $100 or $150 or $200 or $250 etc., depending on which "app" you pray to. Am I right Trivago?
Why is everyone so toxic? If you wanna discuss something be nice. (Even if you think that the person you are discussing with is a complete idiot)
Hey we obey the law here sir
The illegal cab company made legal cabs cheaper and more competitive, after a decade of them charging high prices and pricing shitty service.
Same thing happened when the illegal hotel company came along.
bolt
Are you sure? Hotels are still fucking expensive and Airbnb is still cheaper in some US cities.
I'm experiencing the opposite, AirBnB has gotten ridiculous with their pricing. After all the fees and hassle it ends up cheaper staying at an actual hotel.
We live in the future!
We live in the future!
We live in the future!
We live in the future!
We live in the future!
fake money for criminals
I presume you must mean USD?
Hiyooo
- Doorbell surveillance network
- Self-service identity theft
- State secrets betting house
- Billionaire fan club fund
Very good additions.
I would add that the state-secrets betting houses are also more broadly insider-trading betting houses
The very fact that it's "fake money for criminals" is exactly why I didn't pick up any BitCoin when it was 12p per coin.. I could have been rich af off of £10
I too, ran across Bitcoin in the VERY early days, when it was pennies. I thought it was a scam and probably illegal, I mean "people can't just set up their own currency, can they?" It didn't help that I first found it when I was poking around in Tor, wondering what the "dark web" was all about.
Haha, what an idiot!
Yeah, I didn't get any either. :-/
"criminals" = people the goverment doesnt like crypto is untraceable (mostly)
I think thats why there are so many smear campaigns against it
crypto is untraceable (mostly)
It is very traceable. It's just that the government doesn't have a special position with tracing transactions, so there's been a bunch of kludges built on top of the very transparent Bitcoin network to try to mask things.
For laypersons: they put all the coins in a box and shake the box.
For your lay: the government puts a significant fraction of the coins into these boxes and can use the statistical information gained from this to deobfuscate transactions. If you put enough money in, either at once or slowly over time, they can figure out who you are.
thats the point, its decentralized
anything is traceable IF you have a special position in the transactions
monero, as an example, lets you run your own node
There are plenty of issues beyond that, especially BTC and similar coins being energy inefficient, just imagine if every single transaction ran through that. It wasn't designed to be practical.
And on the less technical side, the biggest contributor to crypto being despised by most people is the massive prevalence of scammers, from companies that pretend to help you invest (while being a ponzi scheme) to rug pulls to other scammers being attracted to it for its perceived anonymity.
Afaik there's legitimate uses for the underlying technology, but cryptocurrency is just inferior to regular digital currency from a practical standpoint, and you either have to put up with government regulation (defeating the purpose of a currency aside from government) or put up with fraud that can't be stopped by our governments.
so basically, research the crypto you buy and practice basic cybersecurity?
sure, it wasnt designed for everybody, but that isnt a reason to smear it
so you have to put up with surveillance or put up with freedom?
I dont think the state should be able to trace transactions
That's very understandable, but impractical for investments and savings, the US insures some banks and the like but it doesn't insure crypto funds, if people's savings end up there based on false promises (or if their assets are managed by a third party) they can lose everything and have no recourse.
This isn't a hypothetical, it's the story of countless people who lost everything to grifters. I don't think blaming individuals makes a lot of sense when it comes to emerging technology and when, again, regular finance is generally insured by the state. The biggest reason for scammers to flock to crypto is that there's a lot less regulation, making it harder to prosecute them. And that's my original point on the choice we have right now, even if ideally we want better choices in the future. Right now you either go with a traditional institution for financial services, which includes government oversight, or you operate on your own and assume a lot of risks, whether you're even aware of that or not (and financial actors purposely deceive people on this end, as it's in their best interest to do so).
The fake money for criminals is the best because there's a lot of people that aren't criminals that have bought in on it and among those the concensus is "I think a bunch of IT neck beards can build a better financial system better than the one that evolved over centuries".
The delusion is laughable.
Honestly I think pretty much anyone could build a better financial system, and more people should try. What we have now is the result of centuries of unchecked power. This monetary policy was created by Richard Nixon and then we adopted a Keynesian rationale post facto. It didn't evolve, it was stolen.
If you've got another idea (including moneyless systems) I'm down to try that too, but what we've got right now is pure garbage, and having no out before the modern era doesn't imply that it's good.
The modern banking system and monetary policy was created under FDR. Nixon just stoped pretending it was backed on gold and told de Gaulle to kick rocks when he asked for the gold back.
Realistically the changes under Nixon are peanuts compared to the digitization of it all since the introduction of systems like Swift.
You say that like Nixon wasn't unilaterally breaking the Bretton Woods Agreement. No offense, but are you an American?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixon_shock
Yes I am an American and I know what he did, but I also know that the Breton woods agreement was only a small part of the financial system, and that realistically, the economic downturn of the 70s was far more heavily impacted by several oil shocks and the hangover from massive spending on Vietnam.
I think it's very true, but cryptocurrency is not the way to go
He makes crypto sound way cooler than it is
i’m going with the fake money for criminals, cuz sometimes the criminal in question is a trans person trying to get their medicine
to my great annoyance, almost all diy hrt online can only be bought using crypto. and wow does it make you hate cryptobros to have to navigate an ecosystem clearly designed for speculation to get your life-saving medicine 🫠
You're doing crypto a favor by keeping it at least 1% still anarchist.
that sucks mam.
I hope eventually there are less dumb ways to access the stuff for you.a
Without glasses, I thought that said "illegal crab company" and I was all in.
I feel like this is something I'd hear discussed on the Park After Dark podcast (Trailer Park Boys thing, now with 100% less Bubbles for obvious reasons)
No law can stop carcinization.
(V) OwO (V) What's this? snip snip
Citizen Sniiiiiiiiiiiips!
Before I go all in with you, I have to know- is this an illegal company where crabs are the product or where crabs are running things?
It can be whatever you want it to be, baby.
Wait... You're a baby crab, right?
Yes
I prefer ethically sourced crab, tbh. I actually like the vat grown seafood because it is better for the environment and fresher inland.
that's what I read with glasses, and I thought it was about garage crab farming
Again, I'm all in.
Fake Money for Criminals.
Turns out things for criminals sometimes can be an okay thing for noncriminals.
Also, buying explosives and fake documents. 🥰
The things I like are cheap...
Say your country makes baby formula illegal to push some breastfed is the only way agenda, would you consider a mother buying formula online with crypto a criminal?
Yes, because criminality has nothing to do with morals. If the state views you as a criminal, you are a criminal. That's why some criminals are still good people and cool.
Be gay, do crime
Legal != Moral
I miss when the tech business model was to find where buyers and sellers were interacting, insert an app in the middle and then add fees.
Fake money probably, it allows me to easily buy drugs from online.
If people value it I guess it isn't so fake. Most "legit" currencies are just the goverment promising you its worth something anyway.
A government promising it's worth something carries a hell of a lot more weight than some random tech-bro promising it.
In both cases the trading value of the currency has almost nothing to do with who originated it, and almost everything to do with how the general public feels about it.
Just like crypto, most "government" currencies are worth what they're worth only because everyone agrees that they are. That's called "fiat" currency. And that's why fiat currency exchange markets exist. The US Dollar hasn't been "convertible" (redeemable for a fixed amount of precious metal) since 1971, and many other world currencies were already backed in some way by the US Dollar at that time.
The real difference is in the supply.
Government fiat currency is difficult to counterfeit, although the government (or reserve bank) can always make more whenever they want. We trust them not to print more money, increasing the money supply and devaluing the currency. However, this is exactly what has happened sometimes in the past, and no doubt will happen again in the future.
Crypto currency is virtually impossible to counterfeit, and IIRC there's a finite (but not precisely known) amount of it that can be made, no matter who you are.
Personally, I still use physical fiat currency and no crypto. I'd like to use crypto, but regulation in my country makes it very difficult to use without registering your details with a central authority. And although everyone's pushing e-money options which are similarly tracked, thankfully I still have the option of using anonymous cash.
I don't do anything bad or illegal. I just believe that government and big business don't deserve to know everything I do in my life simply because they want to.
You can use crypto without those registration if you know where to find locals who are willing to trade it for cash. It'll be just like finding a local dealer.
Monero my beloved...
I believe in a future where we won't need money anymore, but in the meantime, Monero is a pretty solid choice.
You just reminded me that it's been a couple of decades since I Candyflipped. Need to do that again soonish...
I tried looking at dreadforum to see how markets work nowadays and found out in a minute I was viewing a mirror that was injecting links
I think I'll just ask a dude on the street at this point
But then again I am in a country where that would work with 0 negative consequences for me as the user
Doesn't dread's captcha force you to check the url? Afaik it makes you fill in specific parts of the url, so that you check that the url you are using is the same one they are using. Curious how the mirror was able to bypass that.
Regardless I just spent some initial investment saving the pgp public keys and making sure they are legit, so that I can use them to verify dread's mirrors.txt whenever needed. Faster than walking out to the street imo
Ride sharing, short term rentals, Crypto, and AI?
Correct.
I'm paying $900 for a short term (week and a half), last minute, airbnb, I'm meeting with a potential roommate tmr to move in on the 1st. Paying real rent instead of paying airbnb hosts.
Oh no the terrible ride sharing!
Sure, as long as everyone's going to the same place at the same time, and washes and doesn't blast horrendous trap music on a JBL.
Wrong definition there bud.
Ridesharing still gets you the 33 cars.
Yeah, when it was "Hey, I drive to work every day, anyone else on this same route want to pay a bit for gas and share my ride?". It was kind of fine.
But now its just flat out people's "job" as a cabbie without proper cabbie regulation.
Ride sharing does not remove cars from the roads, typically they take only one person to one place. Actual solutions include LRT, BRT, Metros, U-Bahns, S-Bahns, and REM style automated light rail.
it reduces cars in public parking lots and spaces though, which is nice
But those cars are now in the streets moving to the next customer, basically trading parking to traffic
Yes but at the direct cost of drivers that tend to be more reckless
ime rideshare drivers are generally incredibly good at driving, so I trust their judgement. Are there stats that they get in more crashes?
It doesn't have to be like this though.
Here, for example, Uber is not allowed and Airbnbs are regulated
What country and why?
Italy. Because you need a license to be a taxi driver, and a random company cannot hand them out (and the taxi drivers union is powerful and corrupt). And because the government gotta know who is renting a room where, you can't just go wherever you want without anyone knowing, especially foreigners. Whenever you rent a room in Italy, the owner will take a picture of your ID/passport, and send your data to the local government. Also you gotta pay taxes on the rooms you rent.
I’ll never not upvote this meme
I'll never not upvote comments about upvoting this meme.
Well the innovations clearly must be good because people use them so much. Frankly the term "illegal" doesn't carry much weight for me. Piracy is illegal, but I think copyright is far worse.
fake money for criminals
are they talking about crypto or fiat? because it's impossible to tell.
They're the same picture.
All money is fake money for criminals.
The unconstrained expansion of credit following the end of Bretton Woods system could only lead to the long term devaluation of the currency, something that's theorically infinite is also inherently entropic.
Yup, the AI is definitely “the plagiarism machine.” 🤣 I’m using that from now on.
I want a none of the above option.
Its an old meme And it all started with illegal banking for musk and their... That should make the cut
porno, duh
I mean if we're opposed to every new technology than obviously we're all going to call it illegal. Doesn't matter what it is. Maybe the pattern is saying something about us and not the tech
The fact that big money keeps creeping in and forcing harmful stuff down everyone’s throats does tell us something about ourselves as a society, yes.
I love em all except the coins at the outset. Uber is too expensive these days but air bnb is utterly fantastically.
Uber is too expensive these days
That was always the goal. Uber and Lyft prices were heavily subsidized early on. Their investors poured billions into them in order to not just establish market share, but tk drive existing taxi services out of business. Taxi services that had things like: fleets of company-owned vehicles instead of personal vehicles, commercials grade maintenance schedules, stricter licensing requirements for drivers, unionized employees instead of independent contractors, etc
Uber and Lyft just plain ignored a lot of existing regulations by saying "those don't apply because this is an app" to legislators who were too old to know how to turn on a smart phone. They got the public on-board by temporarily offering artificially low prices and high payouts to drivers. Now they have established themselves and removed the competition, so the payouts are going down and the prices are going up.
There are still some US cities that do not allow Uber or Lyft to operate, and there are other countries in the world that do the same.
I couldn't give a fuck any the regulations. They sucked and did nothing. Cabs were broken and Uber fixed that shit right up.
How were they broken?
Scamming, not showing up, not servicing 'those people '.
It’s funny you say that, because I couldn’t tell you how many times I’ve been cancelled on by Anglo uber drivers.
Is it? Because for any lodging of minimum quality, hotels are cheaper nowadays.
That just not true across the board. I've found solo they are expensive but compared to getting a suite at a hotel they are competitive. You ain't beating the king room at a Hilton though, agreed.
It certainly isn't true AT ALL for group travel. I regularly stay in very nice homes for under $150/night per person.
Where do you stay that you cannot find nice hotels at that rate?
$150 a person is $300 for a hotel room, and I get fresh towels and bed sheets every day.
16th repost of this meme in 2 years that i've been here.
