cross-posted from: https://piefed.world/c/webcomics/p/1198637/these-are-getting-weird

I saw one of these stickers for the first time yesterday out in the wild.

Today's biggest fear: Don't Exclude Me!

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Still downvoting beep every time.

I'm reporting every time.

Removing attribution is just bad (and should break rules), but smurf accounts usually break instance rules.

What did they do?

They have a policy of fully removing attribution of all the comics he posts, even going so far as to feed them to LLMs to try and remove hard to crop out artist marks

How many of moakley's comics did OP repost like this?

No idea, there's no attribution in any of them so you have to go through all of em

Whose art did you steal this time?

fym steal? all digital information should be free. it hurts nobody to copy it.

If you post someone's art and remove their watermark, you are stealing

I couldn't give two shits about sharing other's work, just properly attribute it or fuck off.

it's not stealing, since you take nothing away from the artist.

Acknowledgement of your peers and recognition for what you put out into the world is not nothing. Stop being an edgelord.

There's income related to making and sharing digital media. It's not as simple as a simple monetary transaction, but there's income in social media presence and exposure which can be converted into monetary income. In any case, by removing the signature, the person is intentionally cutting that income stream from the artist.

It's more difficult to argue that it's stealing, since even though the person removing attribution from an artist is taking something from the artist, they're not necessarily gaining it for themselves.

It's not stealing but it's an asshole thing to do with no justification and should still be condemned

My opinion is, that you should be able to do whatever you want to a digital file. I don't think it's wrong to scold the poster for not including the artists name though

You are stealing the credit they should get when people who aren't familiar with the work see it. If you can't handle that, you're free to kindly fuck off or get absolutely dog piled for being wrong. As I stated before, I don't care about content sharing as long as people are properly credited.

Beep is a well known content thief who actively modifies works to remove the author attribution. That is effectively digital theft, and I don't give a fuck what you think about the matter.

so you define stealing as not giving somebody something they deserve, based on your personal undefined moral standards?

The modified file does not significantly change the work, and does remove attribution. You should spend some time reading up on copyright, intellectual property, and creative commons, because you have obviously not done so if you think this is arbitrary.

It's removing attribution of the make of the maker

in what way is this stealing?

Would you scrub picassos sign off one of his artworks? This is the same

You're not answering my question. Scrubbing off picassos signature would be different, because it would destroy the physical artwork. I wouldn't have a problem with someone digitally removing his signature from a digital copy of the artwork and then distributing that online.

How is that not ruining the art but removing Picasso’s signature would be? I agree art should be free but that doesn’t mean we should make it easier to steal from artists that should be getting paid even if their art is distributed for free.

If you posted a Picasso piece and went thru the extra steps to remove his signature even digitally & then post it it’s kinda like a ripoff, you’re just unnecessarily removing the credit from the person who actually did the work.

I didn't say that removing picassos signature would not ruin the art. I said that physically destroying the artpiece is way different from copying a file and then modifying that copy. Copying digital art is not stealing. This mindset just enables stupid anti-piracy and copyright laws that will always harm the honest consumer

I warned my brother-in-law and sister-in-law about that fuckstick more than a decade ago. They laughed at me. Didn't phase them at all. When the Model Y released, they bought one. When Elmo revealed his full Nazi self (salute and all), they bought one of those bumper stickers. Later, they replace said Model Y with a new one and pull the bumper sticker off the old one and somehow reattach the used bumper sticker to the new one (you can tell it's the same sticker because it's all jacked up from being removed from the old car). Oh, and they were early adopters of Starlink. Sucking Nazi cock must be addictive because they can't seem to stop themselves.

More than a decade ago I still found Musk quite innovative and inspiring. Politically I think he still supported democrats back then, at least he wasn't openly fachist. Can absolutely see how people bought a Tesla without anticipating all what happened 5 years back, not to speak of 10++.

There was once a point where Tesla was the only viable long range EV. Nowadays there is no excuse - the other EVs on the market are cheaper and better.

Is there any info on the artist, or did it get stripped out of the comic by beep?

I bought this before Elon went crazy

Didn't know they made teslas in 1971

A bumper sticker is such a token attempt to absolve yourself from responsibilities and embarrassment

I still have sympathy for people who bought in years ago and thought they were doing something good. Not everyone is financially stable enough to get rid of a big investment like that. Buying an EV was different 10 years ago.

That said, anyone with a Cyberstuck or a newer model with the T E S L A spelled out on the back has zero excuse.

lol I couldn’t imagine having a $30k electric mistake sitting in my driveway, mocking me with Elon vibes. Yikes.

The first time I remember Elon really letting the mask slip was the Thai cave rescue in 2018. After his jury-rigged submarine failed, he publicly called one of the actual rescuers a pedophile simply for pointing out that the project looked more like a PR stunt than a rescue plan. Looking back, it's easy to see the warning signs, but at the time it's understandable why many people were still ambivalent about him.

I wonder how many of these people who believe that Tesla owners who bought their car long before Elon showed his true colors own a Ford. Do they know what kind of person Henry Ford was and the writings he published? How many own Volkswagens?

In my view, the Tesla and Elon hate are justified because of, well, everything that's come to light over the past few yars. But all this clamoring that people who still own a Tesla they bought 7+ years ago should have gotten rid of their car is just virtue signaling. If their convictions about this are so strong, then they ought to apply the same logic to any Ford bought after 1920, or any Volkswagen at all.

WISH I HAD A VOLUME KNOB

You should brick these vehicles. Let the owners know how effective the sticker is.

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