Meanwhile two of my partners friends are just going baby crazy. good timing y'all!

One of them, he and his partner i think she said met a month ago or something ridiculous? married and trying for a kid

Knew a guy that met a woman who was aggressively Catholic and didn't believe in sex before marriage so he proposed after a month. Think they got up to at least 3.

This is how 99% of mormon marriages happen

One of them, he and his partner i think she said met a month ago or something ridiculous? married and trying for a kid

Oh boy, those poor kids

psychologically damaging mammals to the point where they dont wanna have kids is quite an achievement

I get that this is a catchy one liner but it always felt like reactionary bullshit. In fact I don't think you need to psychologically damage people a lot at all for them to not want kids.

Personally I just straight up don't want to, it isn't about the money, it isn't (at least not exclusively) about climate change, it just does not interest me at all.

and people say the soft sciences don’t matter…

There are two seemingly contradictory explanations for collapse in fertility rates that I commonly see:

  1. That having kids is financially infeasible for many more households
  2. That economic prosperity and education lead to the collapse of fertility

But I think what squares the circle is that the second statement is actually describing societies with more developed capitalism, and that the seeming extra prosperity has come from cannibalizing social reproduction in pursuit of more intensive labor productivity. It's how you can get a society where there is relative material abundance, but no spare time or cash to raise your kids.

Fertility rates track the "one map" pretty closely, and I don't think that's a coincidence. And the fact that China has now joined that group might warrant some uncomfortable reflection on our part about the trajectory their society is taking.

But I think what squares the circle is that the second statement is actually describing societies with more developed capitalism, and that the seeming extra prosperity has come from cannibalizing social reproduction in pursuit of more intensive labor productivity. It's how you can get a society where there is relative material abundance, but no spare time or cash to raise your kids.

ding ding ding

this is the conclusion Marxist feminists were coming to in the 70s and 80s while studying the capitalization of reproductive labor

I think any trajectory that China is going through 1) must acknowledge your point that if the square is circled thusly then it follows that the more socialized abundance wouldn't ping the birthrates as intensely

But 2) the trajectory goes back a bunch further than the sensibilities than citizens of the one map readily conceptualize. So the weight of history probably does weird things to the data that I don't know about

Below replacement but yet there’s still kids no one cares about who needs a loving home.

Wow who thought no hope for the future would lead to people not wanting kids.

Although in my case I've never wanted kids.

: “The human project ends with me! Nothing personal, but I just looooove money! What’s the point of existence if I’m not around to have sex with my pile of money? We will go extinct, and it’ll be worth it for my money!”

: “Huh, why does no one want to have kids? Sure, I don’t need humans anymore, but why?”

Yeah neither of us ever really wanted any to begin with, but even if we did, how the fuck could we justify bringing someone new into this world?

Sitting at the breakfast table reading the newspaper (I had to switch to the paper because the internet is full of pictures of dead kids my government helped kill) about how tick populations are out of control from climate change and are drinking animals to death,

"You know honey, I think now's a great time for us to have children."

Just looking at the people I know, I'm surprised the fertility rate is still above 1 (half of replacement rate).

Very few have children, most aren't in stable relationships, many of the couples don't want children.

Yeah of the couples I know probably less than half want children and of those that do less than half are financially stable enough to do so

Billionaires must repopulate the earth as ayn rand intended

is doing his best

Atlas Shagged

Have we tried banning TikTok or Social media for under 16s? Have we tried more austerity?

How about banning porn and demonizing everyone who isn't straight, white, and (the right kind of) Christian?

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