Outright corruption
(midwest.social)
People TwitterYou need to provide an archived link of trump saying this. Anyone can help, you all have an hour. Sorry, but I have to take it down if no one provides the link. Rule 6
I don't use archive sites because I don't use Google, but here you go.
https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/trump-connecticut-coast-guard-graduation-1797996
What does Google have to do with archive sites?
I'm not sure what Google has to do with it, but here you go: https://archive.is/75fuN
He says it at the 31 second mark
https://youtu.be/4kMaJJlEuZ8
Thanks, that's good.
Thanks for requiring a clip or source. It’s easy for anyone to slap text on a picture and claim it as truth or “just a joke”.
Thanks , I can't listen to him ramble. My hand uncontrollably goes on my forehead and I get embarrassed that almost half of Americans voted for this fucker.
~22% of the population voted for him. Yeah, that's still too much, but it isn't anywhere close to a majority
I think it needs to be an archived link of the tweet... I suspect the problem is tweets getting deleted, not so much the veracity of the quote (which is well documented)
At least... I hope. Because otherwise that would be dumb.
I guess I'm dumb, lol. I originally started doing it because the propaganda and lies being spread through memes in this community were a lot. Most of the people, like 99.9% in this community, are awesome. They'll help if a poster doesn't understand.
I think it needs to be an archived link of the tweet… I suspect the problem is tweets getting deleted, not so much the veracity of the quote (which is well documented)
At least… I hope. Because otherwise that would be dumb.I guess we're du
https://archive.is/dYtjr
He will be in office in 2028 though
That's what I was thinking, unless he gets impeached or kicks the bucket he'll hold office until January 2029.
Does he seriously think he'll live till 2032?
Trump never lies about what he wants to do. He always lies about his accomplishments.
He’s not lying. That’s exactly what he wants to do.
This isn't corruption. A few steps beyond it really....
Lol. You know what Donny. I'm fairly sure you won't be around in 2032.
Let’s go Big Macs 🙏
He's joking guys like the joke about Venezuela! Or the Joke about ICE. He uses jokes or light hearted comments to soften the impact of terrible actions to gauge public reaction? No it's just jokes guys!
Or the jokes about CECOT for the home growns. Ha ha funny right??? Right?!
Fuck Americans for letting this asshole win a second time.
And they’ll let him win a third time too. There will be complaining and social media posts, but I won’t be remotely surprised when he doesn’t leave office.
Yeah, I can get the first time to a degree (still think he’s a pos). But seriously, seeing his first regime, who the fuck would vote for him a second and potentially third time??
We have a large portion of the population that is undereducated, which leads to lack of critical thinking skills and media illiteracy. Unfortunately we also have a large population in the south that is brainwashed by Christian nationalism, which the Republicans gladly pander to. These people are lied to on a daily basis by nothing short of propaganda in our news media.
I believe that people latch onto him because he has very simplistic messaging that they can understand. They are told and believe that he is good and will help them and the country’s economy. That or they’re downright racist and just want immigrants to be deported.
This coupled with our somewhat rigged electoral college system causes things like this to happen in our country. Many of us don’t like it and would like the electoral college to be abolished. However, the Republicans know that without it they would never win, so it stays. Our largest population centers ALWAYS lean heavily Democrat. The “land” that votes in our federal elections would never stand a chance without the EC.
I don’t really understand how one persons vote can be less important than someone else’s who lives in a rural area. But yeah, I know. In smart, educated centres, the democrats lead. It’s only the uneducated people they vote for repubes. Crazy to think
If there’s one thing those kind of people excel at, it’s being told exactly what to do.
Thank Aileen Cannon for that. And Elon and Putin putting their thumb on the scale for vote tabulation. No one fucking wanted this other than die hard maga idiots who are fewer in number than the media (social or traditional) make it seem like.
For these three reasons alone, I consider it highly likely that this regime will now abandon even the pretense of democracy and establish a true autocracy:
- ICE has a larger budget than all U.S. federal agencies combined. This budget is equivalent to the military spending of a medium-sized country. It is clearly a secret police force.
- Given the serious crimes they have already committed, all members of the cabinet would likely face criminal prosecution under a new administration—even within the completely dysfunctional U.S. legal system. They will not let it come to that.
- Coups d’état have no criminal consequences in the U.S., at least for conservatives, as evidenced by the fact that no one actually responsible was prosecuted during the last coup attempt—even the foot soldiers are all back on the loose.
Given the serious crimes they have already committed, all members of the cabinet would likely face criminal prosecution under a new administration—even within the completely dysfunctional U.S. legal system.
I'm not holding my breath. It would be great if I'm wrong, but my bingo card has the next admin proclaiming "now is the time for healing and unity, not vengeance" instead of actually enforcing the consequences that are supposed to come with actions.
They do have a history of giving clemency to those who try to destroy the will of the people so this would be a predictable outcome.
Instead of the chop chop required.
If you think the next administration is going to be anything better than the same hand in a different glove then you're deluding yourself. The only way out of this for the US is a revolution. These people will not give up power, they will need to be removed.
ICE doesn’t have enough competent men willing and able to pull off a coup.
They're just the backup, after all. Do you really think the military would put up a fight? Or even the police?
I do think local police would intervene if ICE were deployed to disrupt polling stations. Even national elections in the US are run locally, and the police are members of the same community as the poll workers. ICE agents are outsiders. But I don’t think it will come to that.
ICE, from the leadership on down to the agents, have shown themselves to be relatively cowardly. They hide their faces, and try to hide their presence in areas of operation as long as possible. After murdering a couple people on camera and getting major pushback, they changed leadership and have tried to keep a lower profile.
The agents themselves are the dregs of society. They are not intelligent, competent, or brave, and they don’t take good care of themselves. Most wouldn’t be fit for the military or a police force. These are not soldiers with a shared mission and the capability and determination to carry it out. They are insecure misanthropic boys. I don’t think they’d fair well if they tried to prevent normal people from voting, but I also don’t think we’ll ever find out.
I don’t think one can expect even the slightest resistance from the police in a crisis, since their leadership is largely made up of the same people who elected these crooks to the White House.
I believe the circumstances surrounding the military’s current war against Iran - a war that violates both international law and U.S. law, during which they are committing the most serious war crimes - clearly indicate that no resistance is to be expected from them either. Furthermore, all generals critical of the regime have already been removed.
In Short: Both the police and the military are led predominantly by MAGA officials who would benefit from the establishment of a dictatorship. I therefore do not think they would offer resistance in a crisis - they could do so right now given the obvious crimes the regime commits on a daily basis, but they just do not.
I think it will simply turn out however the oligarchs who actually control the U.S. decide. If they want a dictatorship modeled on the Russian one, that’s exactly what will happen.
One thing to consider: They’ve had control of the DOJ for over a year and still haven’t successfully prosecuted any of Trump’s political enemies. And not for lack of trying. For lack of spine and/or competence. Compare to Putin’s Russia, where he can have your plane blown out of the sky if he doesn’t like you.
I think something people aren't quite realizing with the whole "weaponization fund" is that it's subtlety removing the jury from the criminal justice equation, which has so far been one of the primary reasons Trump has not been able to get any convictions against his enemies. It's subtle because it's doing it in the other direction first, but it send a very clear message that juries might no longer have the final say in determining guilt or innocence moving forward.
The president’s power to pardon federal crimes is already more akin to removing the jury from the criminal justice equation. He’s always had the ability to declare someone innocent. I don’t see how the weaponization fund advances him toward having the power to declare guilt.
That fund is just a way for Trump to give federal funds to anyone he wants. Knowing him, he’ll probably give most of it to himself, possibly indirectly; “You buy $750,000 of Trump Coin, I give you a million dollars.”
Yes, that’s true: the methods of oppression in the U.S. are still relatively subtle at the moment. However, that doesn’t change the fact that in the U.S., too, a tiny elite exploits the country while standing above the law - a point proven by the very fact that the current president is, in fact, president rather than serving a life sentence in prison.
What I’m getting at is this: It would be easier for this elite to switch to the Russian model. I consider it likely that they intend to do so, since the current regime demonstrates on a daily basis that the most serious crimes in the US always go unpunished - so why even maintain the facade when it’s already abundantly clear that the law simply doesn’t apply to the powerful elite?
It may be that the Trump administration could get away with just about any crime at this point. But to get away with something, you still have to do it first. Stealing elections is complicated, and surely takes some level of skill, organization, and work ethic to pull off. I just don’t think they have what it takes, and time is not on their side.
Presumably, Trump would be spearheading this effort. Look at how much time he spends thinking about the ballroom. Does he seem focused on the project of seizing the reigns of power permanently?
We’ll know pretty soon. They’ll have to organize it before this November, or risk losing a lot of their current power.
Nah, to I much American identity is tied to being a democracy. It'll go the way of Russia and all the "democratic people's republics", with elections and even an opposition, but the opposition will be harassed and prevented from functioning, or the vote will be manipulated, or whatever.
Nobody thinks Russia is a democracy
I don't think this is true. According to research reported here: https://europeelects.eu/2021/02/18/trustworthy-but-meaningless-votes-a-look-at-how-russians-view-their-own-elections/ 49% of Russians thought that local elections in 2021 were fair, compared to 37% viewing it as unfair.
This is only about local elections, and even though the pollster is independent it may be under pressure, but I think the best evidence we have is that a sizeable number of Russians think Russia is democratic.
You have to wonder why Putin goes to all the effort of holding and falsifying elections if noone in Russia believes in them.
You know? I'm starting to think that November doesn't matter at all.
I mean: we already know that the current administration can openly ignore judges without any consequence. So: what is anyone going to do if after November, the pedoparty loses all their seats but they simply ignore the results and stay in power? Who's gonna arrest them? Who's gonna enforce the judge ruling saying that X or Y won that seat and the pedopolitician in question should be removed from it?
I don't think right now the US has the spine to start a civil war and, frankly, you are gonna need it. It's about time you realize your legal system and your judges are worth shit if the people enforcing the laws and rulings are in bed with the ones breaking the law.
In the scenario you're talking about, that would be the moment when US democracy is definitively in the can, beyond hope of recovery by conventional means. That would be the right time to overthrow the administration by any means necessary. But yeah I really wonder if even then there would be enough collective spine to make it happen. Every effort will be made to muddy the waters. The vote will be rigged wherever possible. The white house will announce a resounding success. Most news outlets will parrot this line. From some democrats there will be "deep concern" about how the elections were handled. There will be calls for an immediate investigation. Some investigations will take place and there will be findings and condemnations, which ultimately have no effect. But the cumulative message will always be : "now is not the time"
Keep in mind they have the power to purge voter registries wherever and whenever they want, red states have enacted laws to allow them to reject voting outcomes, it's already been shown that if they throw enough of the results to courts it gets dragged out and thrown out, ultimately getting to the scotus where with a con-majority there is no doubt what they'd do.
But with his own personal fascist army via ICE, plus whatever parts of the military are perfectly cool murdering children and civilians, not to mention all the other dickless chuds in his cult...he'd turn them out in a heartbeat
Dude forgot he's about to die lol
The child rapists 'father' was mid 90s before that cunt finally died.
So if anyone is hoping that the paedo in chiefs age will take him out before he can shit all over your constitution some more then you need to think again.
Sorry, but Satan just doesn't want things like Donvict Drumpf down there lowering the tone.
You'll have to take the withering blob of orange gonorrhoea out yourselves.
His father ate unprocessed foods, likely. tRump eats only McDonald's.
That said, tRump has some of the best healthcare a nation without national healthcare can get. The only way we can take him out is continuing to raise his blood pressure until his body gives out. They gotta start asking him about the Epstein Files, even with a bunch of economic troubles from his dumb ass war. That really bothers him. We, reporters too, need to keep pissing him off!
But will that make a difference?
1). I would not be surprised if the world was presented with digitally generated Trump video clips and social media posts, even if he was dead. Few people see the man in person - you could probably push back giving the public news of his death for a few years if you call it a security threat for him to go out in public and thus do all his communications digitally.
2). I worry that there will be a church of Trump after he passes. Much like the stories of Jesus took off decades after he had died, some crap story about Trump’s sainthood is sure to circulate. MAGA already puts out statements about how he understands theology better than the pope, etc. You could have some kind of Pastor of Trump that leads a theocracy.
3). Dictatorships don’t just resolve when the leader dies. There will be plenty of infighting to see who will become the new alpha, and the person who wins that battle is likely the one with the fewest scruples.
Corruption is when you do things like insider trading, giving associates no bid government contracts, making slush funds for supporters. This one is more of a dismantling of democracy type situation.
I mean, the next election is November, 2028. So if he isn't in office then, something dramatic happened.
We all know what he meant. And that's not it.
We need something dramatic to happen. Preferably a removal for treason.
Yup I want this dumpy old fool to die in prison. He has to KNOW he lost.
Or one of the many other valid reasons
STUPID Libruls! The Constiution is Meant to ALLOW us to SHOOT CHILDREN and NOTHING ELSE!
-People who KEEP Voting for a Known Child Molester!
Technically if he doesn't croak or move to Israel with all of his stolen government money he'll be in office until Jan 6th, 2029.
Isn't it Jan 20th?
Yeah, you're right. The formalization of electoral victory isn't the the final step, it's the swearing in on the 20th or 21st if the 20th is a sunday.
This old fat fuck will have a cardiac arrest before the end of the summer.
PLEASE 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Bitch, you're not even gonna be here in 2027.
He'll be lucky to make it to 20:27
I guess being a disgusting pedo asshole means not even death wants anything to do with you, but eventually everyone is visited by it...
Yeah, the guy looks like any filet-o-fish could be his last. And he's set a fine example for how to react to others' deaths 🎉🥂🍾
Hopefully he won't even be alive by then. Those burgers are gonna catch up with him eventually.
Someone come get this old man, he's lost.
