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no no, you're right, the earth is flat, it's always been flat. it's just flat in a round way which can trick people who dont know how to look properly.
No. When someone goes into outer space NASA actually rolls out a giant painting of "round" Earth. There are no limits to the craziness these people will go through to hide the truth.
We need to understand that flat earthers don't lack the knowledge or experience to accept the evidence that can be made objective, but that they refuse a worldview that is not made by them.
The round earth viewpoint is very boring to discuss. It is round, obviously, but anything fun about that feels like math to talk about. A myth about a flat earth feels mystical and like you're in a secret group. There's an appeal in believing something that skeptics have a hard time understanding. I know, I've been both in my life, and the struggle is real. (Never a flat earther, though)
It reads like a joke but it's just a straight description of how flat earthers think.
It's quite literally a joke about the Antarctica trip. There was one who changed their mind and was heavily ostracized for it.
>Go to doctor
>Get CT scan of my head
>Totally normal, eyes not hacked
>NASA must have replaced the windows in the space station with 8K screens.
Correct. The only way to know for sure is to walk out the airlock and see with your own eyes.
>Put on suit for space walk to get past the screens
>Stupid me, obviously the helmet is a top secret VR system
>Take off helmet
>
> die
> arrive in afterlife
> ask god if earth is flat or round
> god says it's round?????
> realize the roundoid conspiracy got to him too
> sent to hell for doubting god
> persecuted for challenging the lies
> clearly the conspiracy feels threatened if they're going this far to silence me
> validation! vindication!
Chuck Palhanyuik vibes intensify
God, that scene fucked with me as a child.
I did a shit from a high tower to measure whether it fell straight to earth or curved, indicating a round planet. It curved, that's when I realized NASA must have replaced my anus.
they hacked your anus
Science is used to help Describe, Explain, Predict, and Control any phenomena studied. The Describe and Explain part would be the pure science, and the Predict and Control parts are the applied science part.
Instead of letting a Flat Earther moo on and on about the Describe and Explain part, force them to show devices, procedures or processes that have been created out of Flat Earther Descriptions and Explanations of reality.
If their observations are accurate, they should be able to demonstrate or generate something useful from their special knowledge. It should be something that simply cannot be generated using conventional Round Earth Descriptions or Explanations.
Tl;dr: Flat Earthers are unable to demonstrate practical application of their special knowledge that improves any process.
If they don't produce, the discussion is over.
Look, they can make experiments, the problem is that every single one they do proves the earth is round.
I love the experiment flat earthers used in a Netflix documentary. They put a light source and two panels with small holes at the same height in them to focus the light. If the earth is flat, a camera would capture the light if it is at the same height as the last hole:
And if the earth is round, the camera would need to be higher to capture the light
When they checked the experiment at the same height, there was no light. Thinking it was a problem with the setup, they raised the camera and the light appeared. Their comment was "Huh" or something similar.
As far as I know, there are no flat earth explanations for this result.
Maybe they're just 4-dimensional, thinking 3-dimensional, and when they're in 3d- space, it's 2-dimensional for them?
I'm more interested in the put up or shut up, and less interested in the alleged internal struggle that prevents them from doing so.
Produce.
Hey, back in the 90s, I went to an theme park and they had those IMAX screen with moving chairs and you felt like you were getting chased by the shark or the dinosaurs. So imagine what they can do now when they stuff you in a small cabin, they can make you believe ANYTHING! Who's crazy now huh?
::: spoiler Tap for spoiler /s, obvs :::
What's the explanation for the shape of the Moon, Sun, all other planets, etc... in the flat earth mindset?
One aspect of flat earth is to put earth back to the center of the universe. Other planets are just dots in the sky, we are the real thing
Which is what the bible says also. Thats why its a popular belief. It can be interpreted such that we are under a dome and on the other side is water, not space.
What I thought I'd do was, I'd pretend to be one of those deaf-mutes.
I do get a good laugh when every once in a while a flat earther comes up with a newer and more convoluted way of proving that the earth is in fact round. Then there's the bonus round where they do the Olympic level mental gymnastics to explain why their own results don't prove anything.
Occam's razor insists that you were de- and then re-programmed to think that you were in space viewing the Earth, when, in fact, you were in a black room hooked up to an IV with a lurching goon whispering into your ear.
You never left the Denver airport.
IT'S MORE LIKELY THAN NOT. It happens every day.
Considering how few people got to space, you don't need to be a conspiracy theorist to think that you're not one of the lucky ones
I know this is a joke, but there was that group who was taken for a free trip to antarctica. We must stop rewarding flat earthers and anti science! Just ignore them, don't try to prove anything to them, show them they're not worth even getting close to
What in the Silo, "I want to go out!", is this?
only flat earthers can think that we have reached technology 2 just to fool them
They didn't hack your eyes it was all just special effects.
I remember once while debating religion, Sam Harris making a point about how, when sharing certain beliefs, people pay an immediate price when they talk about them. The one in particular is that Elvis is still alive.
He wasn't specifically talking about conspiracy theories, but it made me think about them, nonetheless. If I did my math right, were Elvis still alive, he'd be 91 years old today. So, it's far, far more likely that Elvis is alive than it is that the Earth is flat.
Flat earthers do pay that sort of price, but I don't think we ridicule them enough, compared to how much more ridiculous their views are than the people who think Elvis is still alive.
See I thought he was doing it just to get free tickets to space.

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