Lemmy libs "ChInA iS AUthOriTaRiAn" meanwhile...
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China already is where Bannon wants to be.
The authoritarianism is exercised differently in both countries. Mainly, the US state is openly more physically violent. In China, surveillance, media control, censorship, and control of their population in general is stronger (but the US is rapidly trying to catch up). As one example, the US wouldn't have been able to effectively silence Naomi Wu and presumably remove her way of making a living at the time, if she was a US citizen in the US.
If authoritarianism & the violence it brings (which there is a ton of) in the USA correctly upsets you, then authoritarianism everywhere else (for which there is a ton in China, as well as across most of the rest of the globe) should upset you as well. Trying to make excuses for it in one place or another for ones "team" is pathetic. Fuck all the "whataboutism" - it's all counter productive.
"Don't you mean all lives matter?"
Look, China IS an authoritarian and oligarchic country. The difference between them and the USA is that the oligarchs in China is a bit more benevolent towards their people.
All countries are authoritarian by definition
Authoritarian doesn't just mean that there is authority.
...a bit more benevolent to some of their people.
Vague posting because if you tried to make an actual point you'd get debunked immediately.
He was arrested for enjoying a succulent Chinese meal.
https://streamable.com/unjnw9
This video is required viewing for all the downvoters.
Also, I need to know.. The guy who was toppled by the police, and fell on his head and wasn't moving at all while bleeding from his head.. Do you have any information if he survived?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffalo_police_shoving_incident
Thank you mate! The whole story makes me even more sick, but really needed to know how it ended up... Can't believe that times and times again the same shit is happening.. Glad I live in Europe, but some countries here are also taking dangerous inspiration from the US
And they all lived happily ever after
This was tough to watch... But it is the unfortunate, dark reality of the world we live in
"whataboutism"
But, imagine, if my government is evil, how evil the barbaric hordes must be 🤯
Yes, China is an AUthOriTaRiAn country, but the US don't have even a 10% of civilian rights as Chinese people have, in education, healthcare, culture, housing, etc..
Example of civil rights in China
https://www.theguardian.com/cities/gallery/2014/apr/15/china-nail-houses-in-pictures-property-development
Every form of government is authoritarian by definition
To say nothing of the fact that the US has a massively higher rate of both imprisonment and execution.
Thats how American police treat a 62 year old woman in a costume.
American police be like :
Renea Gamble was found by a municipal judge to be not guilty of disorderly conduct, resisting arrest, disturbing the peace, and providing a false name to law enforcement. (The allegedly false name was "Aunt Tifa," which is hilarious).
She has filed a civil claim seeking monetary damages of $2 million and attorneys fees.
Still. A civilized society doesn't give every single person in a uniform the licence to tackle, kill and assault whomever without facing any real consequences. Sure, the money's nice, but not getting tackled would've surely been much more civilized.
Aunt Tifa hit a double-jackpot. Second, the money. But first and foremost - she's still alive. She's also white, which might have more causal relationships with her getting said jackpot than should be the case in a civilized society.
The problem is that not everyone has either her luck or her complexion.
Forget the dick, what is the dude in the background dressed as? The one with the beard
One in red on the right of the Chinese side? Think depressed thor from endgame?
I"m of the mind saying screw both the USA government and Chinese government. They're no friends of mine.
The CPC is a communist party working in the interests of the working classes, so I think that's a good thing.
"lol... White South Africans"
There’s not actually any credible evidence that the Uyghur people are facing mistreatment. And in fact, plenty of evidence that the CPC has improved their lives.
http://marxism.cass.cn/en/marxist/202401/t20240104_5725502.shtml
Lol, hispanic and colored people
Reminder that we don't have ample photographic and documental evidence (or any at all, tbh) of the genocide alleged by neocons and amplified by liberals, unlike the tons of evidence for genocide in the US and Gaza.
But of course, what libs call a genocide abroad is just a small violation of due process in the US.
Opposite, actually, there's an overwhelming amount of evidence for the Holocaust. Equating it to the Xinjiang programs is actually just Holocaust trivialization.
Quite literally the opposite. What makes questioning the holocaust (much like the genocide in Gaza) so heinous is the fact that it is so incredibly well documented that the only possibile explanation for questioning, downplaying or denial is pure hatred. On the other hand in Xinjiang, a tourist hub with millions of tourists every year, in an advanced country where almost everyone has smartphones there is essentially 0 evidence of genocide. Unless you believe the Chinese government has secretly developed teleportation or invisibility or some such nonsense that merits questioning that in all these years no reputable organisation has called what's happening a genocide that there is no real proof and that the 2 biggest faces of the movement pushing for the classification are American intelligence linked Christian evangelical "on a mission from god to destroy china" (Adrian zenz) and a Guantanamo bay torturer (Rushan Abbas).
No, you're not right
"not committing genocide is just as bad as committing genocide, and your moral compass is garbage if you disagree."
You are propagandized.
Sorry, I'll rephrase;
“not committing genocide is just as bad as committing genocide, and you're mentally ill if you disagree.”
Regarding Xinjiang, the best and most comprehensive resource I have seen so far is Qiao Collective's Xinjiang: A Resource and Report Compilation. Qiao Collective is a group of Chinese diaspora living in the west, and they compiled an extremely comprehensive write-up of the entire background of the events, the timeline of reports, and real and fake claims. The majority of their sourcing is western, and they cite official Chinese government writing and white papers when relevant. Uyghur culture is preserved.
I also recommend reading the UN report as well as (especially) China's response to it, which eclipses it in size and detail.These are the most relevant accusations and responses without delving into straight up fantasy like Adrian Zenz, Christian nationalist and professional propagandist for the Victims of Communism Foundation, does. Zenz' work has been thoroughly discredited, yet is supported by western media for its utility in fearmongering. An example is lying about 8.7% of new IUDs as 80%, to back up claims of "forced sterilization," from this chart:
Lemmy is filled with communists, not "Chinese agents." Why the dishonest, Orientalist framing?
there's a lot of evidence of this
There's no evidence whatsoever. It isn't dishonesty on my part, but yours.
Western supremacists cannot process the idea that someone might sincerely disagree with them: the only explanation most be that they are perfidious foreign devils
Real talk: Why is my silly memes feed clogged up with unfunny propaganda trash?
Have you considered going back to reddit? They maintain the kind of pro-western echo chamber you sound like you prefer
gringos when they see beyond the wall
Its lemmy.ml memes if you dont like them perhaps unsubacribe.
Two things can be authoritarian.
Yep, the US Empire and it's vassal states all use authority for the imperialists.
They can be but aren't
Two things can be bad.
Supporting US authoritarianism and believing US propaganda about its adversaries from said US authoritarian media can indeed both be bad.
Lol a meme should be easy to dismiss or respond to but I have never once seen libs have a counter to this specific one.
liberals not explaining the excruciatingly obvious to us challenge: impossible
Did you know that also:
- Only one thing can be bad.
- Only the other thing can be bad.
- Neither thing can be bad.
If you don’t have an argument, then don’t pretend to make one.
Maybe I’m not using enough words, as I know your kind prefers extraneous verbosity.
My argument is that not liking China does not imply liking the US.
Now make like June 4th and go away.
Now make like January 6th and go away.
fixed it for you. lol
That was a good one.
then i hope you'll enjoy the next one too. lol
We shall see
you wiill see; i'm fully expecting it and trying to plan around it.
your kind
Angry 12 year old phrasing detected
My argument is that not liking China does not imply liking the US.
No claims it does, so who are you arguing with?
Then this meme makes no sense.
They can but they aren't
