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PrivacyHave you guys also noticed this? I'm not talking about "Oh my family isn't privacy conscious" I honestly get that for ur average moms and pops, they don't know any better.
the problem is with how these big tech companies effectively poisoned the everyday Joe to think that handing over ur data like a good boy is the norm and breaking out is "weird" and "too much", this blame also goes on Hollywood.
Yesterday my friend called me " Mr robot" for just taking my privacy seriously I thought it was funny.
some people also fired their single neuron and told me "People only do this when they have something to hide"
These remarks that I face from time to time really highlights the mentality of the general society where if you break out of the norm, even if it doesn't harm them, they would find a way to make off handed remarks about it almost like they're dissatisfied that you're fighting.
Its wild, I remember when my first paycheck came in and a family member posted a picture of it to their social media........ with my name and all on there.
It also doesn't stop with privacy, I remember expressing my distaste for generative LLMs to the same person, and the first thing the next day they post in our discord is some shitty ai meme of me and asked if I liked it? All I said was "ah, I tell you I don't like LLM art and you upload my face to their database, pretty thoughtless of you." The comment went right through one ear out the other.
I don't talk about privacy with normies. If they bring it up, I'm happy to discuss.
I think privacy is very slowly becoming more mainstream and a large part of that is thanks to google. Installing "ai" on devices, deleting peoples' accounts, making installing non-play store apps more difficult, will ultimately encourage more people to degoogle their lives.
Idk why tf they're so hell bent on AI, I get that they need a return on their shitty investments but my god the level of detachment from the general public is insane
If you happen to want to know more on why, there are 2 podcasts that talk about this on a very regular basis:
- Deep Questions with Cal Newport - super chill guy that every week has an episode on ai reality check. Usually explains quite at length why something is happening on ai why is factual or not
- Better offline - Ed can be quite opinionated and sometimes borderline ranty, but he also tends to breakdown stuff like financial numbers on ai investment and why (or why not) you should break those down.
thank you for this, I'll def check it out!
Yeah, I don't get it either. I read that only 3% of companies using "ai" saw a return on investment. Companies started re-hiring the humans because the "ai" turns out to be shit. We can't even produce the power to run these models at scale.
That's par for the course my friend. But the response to these cliché statements is what can start to change perspectives! I like highlighting how Big Tech knows them better than they know themselves. Then get into how this means big tech has the ability to change how they view a topic based the specific search results. I then zoom out and explain how this happens for every user similar to them, as well as for every other "group" big tech classifies people under.
I often get something like "But what can we even do about it then?" in response, which more often than not, eventually leads to them admitting they're lazy and things are too convient to switch away from or stop using lol
I usually point out that they were the ones saying that their phones are listening to them and making changes to their instagram\shopping algorithm.
oh trust me I can argue, its always them being lazy and giving up on their rights
Agree. One thing that I've noticed is that if it's about social media I say I "had to delete it for mental health, that shit is so bad for you", and generally get a much more receptive response than when I explain it's primarily for privacy and that I don't trust them with my data.
Though Zuck and others are making it way easier to point out how creepy their platforms are, so that becomes a good entrypoint re: privacy also.
only if mark would give me the zucc
also yeah they make it so easy to see how predatory they are, people will still pick sides and defend them lmao
Yeah absolutely. My friend asked if i wanted to go to a palestine protest... over sms. Told him I wont talk about politiical activity over insecure means. On his part he did agree at least... but then refused to download signal
On situations like this, redirect the people to recent incidents that prove the point. The last typhoon attacks on the USA make super clear on how brittle the network infrastructure can be, but also how insecure some legacy protocols are. EDIT: also the odido data leak on the Netherlands also proves a lot this point as well.
maybe start doing pgp encrypted sms lol
he has the right motives but misguided haha
I think a big part is never having used the "privacy muscle", and atm its atrophied. I was like that before taking privacy seriously
It's by design. If 80 to 90% or more of people blindly agree to share their contacts and email then the rest of use are caught up in it every time we communicate with them.
You cannot both participate in mainstream social networks and communications platforms and have any real privacy.
that's big issue but I'm referring to is the social stigma that these big tech companies and Hollywood have cultivated.
People automatically think ur too shady or paranoid if you even think about being private
I've heard you can ask those people, "if you have nothing to hide would you be OK with a camera in your shower? Recording you have sex?"
I like the saying that privacy is like cancer. Just because you don't have it doesn't mean its not vitally important to solve for society as a whole.
I knew a guy once who would upload party photos to Facebook and other sites, tagging the people in it. Did that with passed out and way too drunk people too. That was my call to never party with him... and to maybe drink less over all.
what a mess lmao
I agree, there is government policies and social policies, both supports the use of big tech and forces it into your home.
