Yuritopiaposadism [none/use name]
ChapotraphouseWe think this was a psyop on the shooter. This is actually part of a larger psyop to give Adam enough mental damage he crashes out of journalism completely
The BlueSky Killer
Radical centrism need to be a popular term.
When a dem politician becomes President again they won't even pardon him because "decorum" and "rule of law" or some shit, dude ruined his life for absolutely nothing at all.
Of course he won't ever be pardoned.
If the dems get back into power that itself would 'prove' that political violence wasn't neccessary to save the country (from what they will themselves then continue doing while ignoring it over brunch).
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Reminder, this is what he did, the kid who shot Trump in the ear actually did more damage than this bozo
Adventurism doesn't solve anything, but you must not be a reactionary to understand that.
But if you teach people not to be reactionaries, if you teach them to think critically then Capitalism is unsustainable.
Adam stop speaking in twitter-user tense.
Bro wtf, his username is Olive Consumer?
Someone said that when you convince liberals that the reason things are the way they are is entirely and totally caused by the orange man then it is not that surprising that for some of them their solution becomes "kill the orange man".
You don't see marxists or fascists trying to kill Trump because both these wings of politics also understand that killing him will change absolutely nothing. You'll get an aesthetic change. Libs will go back to brunch. Media will change its tune. But fundamentally everything will be the same.
It is only the centrist true believers that think removing him is the panacea to all things. Much like they think you can do the same with Putin or Xi and magically things will be different. To them everything is done by a single individual and not by systems, organisations and political movements.
the only material advantage to getting rid of trump is that none of the other buffoons can wrangle the cult. the downshot would be that that any replacement wouldn't upset liberals nearly as much so they'd go back to brunch and find a way to get owned in the midterms.
To them everything is done by a single individual and not by systems, organisations and political movements.
I've been drinking the kool aid and avoiding discourse for so long that I didn't remember that this is a possible interpretation of the world. Say what you will about my cringe beliefs, but I'm the type of beast that thinks the bore-geo-icy only makes MLK-style concessions when the Black Panthers are the other option.
Yeah this type of dude just sincerely believes that if Trump dies things will be different instead of just the same monster wearing a different face.
If marxists believed Trump was the problem and getting rid of him would be better then he'd be dead hundreds of times by now. There's been so many opportunities. He's alive because we believe it wouldn't constitute real change.
These radical centrists are sacrificing themselves for this because they sincerely believe it. Their brains are totally cooked by an ideology that you can't even write coherent books about because none of it is coherent.
You don't see marxists or fascists trying to kill Trump because both these wings of politics also understand that killing him will change absolutely nothing.
Nah fascists definitely believe in great man theory, that's why Pissrael and Trump both open with going after leaders.
My position on Gaza is nuanced. My position of what's happening to Jews at home is not.
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This is advanced western chauvinism, unheard of and incomprehensible outside
The nuance here being “I thirst for the blood of the innocent, but it’s unfashionable to say it outright in my circles.”
100.000 murders, but it's outside of the USA:
Someone has been insulted and it's in the USA:
I've seen a whole lot of liberals respond to this just straight up calling it fake, that it was staged by the Trump admin in order to... achieve something? Improve poll numbers, I guess?
It's kinda interesting that, for some chunk of liberals, they're now responding to political news and historical events in the same way MAGA always has: like its a reality television show.
I've seen a whole lot of liberals respond to this just straight up calling it fake, that it was staged by the Trump admin
Well, that seems to be the prevailing theory among the brightest of Hexbear, so you are correct.
I thought people were just joking, are some people actually seriously saying that this was some kind of "false flag" or something? Just because a would-be assassin is incompetent doesn't make it a false flag. If anything, I would except them to be hyper-competent, like movie levels of competent in a false flag, since they're putting on a show for the public.
Yeah, every thread on the subject has 2-3 comments near the top saying it. And not in an ironic way.
And out of anything, I think his politics are the biggest indicator it wasn't a false flag. There's no way they are pinning it on a centrist resistance dem who fully supported every aspect of American imperialism. It doesn't help the narrative for a crackdown at all.
I thought most of those were jokes. Oh dear. I think it is normal to have a knee jerk reaction of "false flag" with this sort of stuff, but people really need to just be comfortable with not knowing all the details yet and not forming a strong opinion before more information comes to light.
There's unfortunately a portion of people here whose worldview is mostly being contrarian, and they just wanna react to things without putting any effort. There's a few things I've been noticing recently that are making me wish the quality of discussion here was a bit higher. I'll just keep complaining about it and hope it gets better lol.
I'm hoping this post is a sign of a turning point in discussion: https://hexbear.net/post/8354559
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Did I stutter?
I mean it won him the election last time.
Do you think it moved the needle enough to be a deciding factor?
Centrists will say voting 3rd party pales in comparison to my strategy of and then not .
At this point "incoherent politics" is the default assumption for Americans
To be fair, I think his is one of the most coherent politics I've seen so far. Its some sort of hyper liberal, radical centrist.
incoherent
only radical centrists would get worked up enough by Trump to bother assassinating him
I think it's some credit to us that 0 marxists were stupid enough to do an adventurism on Trump
A proper Marxist would have the presence of mind to pull an Inglourious Basterds on the entire upper echelon and the Supreme Court simultaneously, and also deploy partisans by train to seize control of Congress. Unfortunately, DC's rail system is not up to the task, so here we are circlejerking about the Romanovs.
yeah the hilton is old enough and the event is in the basement iirc so there's definitely some real opportunities there for a substandard fire safety situation.
So that's why they hate train infrastructure so much...
Yeah we should keep it clean and just punch him in the balls a bunch until he resigns
they're also consistently offered no outlet other than vooting, and adventurist nihilism is what a person turns to when they have given up on any notion of organized resistance.
i've said it a couple times before, but if oil execs start getting capped that's when i'll assume it was a comrade
This is what I meant when I said he was obsessed with Hasan Piker in another thread. It was obsessed in the way an r/neoliberal or noncredible defense poster would be.
We’re gonna need a :radcent: emoji of this guy’s head pretty soon
