They aren't even allowed to ask that in an interview here...

Ooh kinda similar thing.

I watched a single youtube video about Israel-Iran two days ago cause I wanted to check comments and see peoples opinions, then that very night I got messaged by unkown numbers to talk about it.

Had conspiracy theories form in my head about some kind of deepstate putting me on the watchlist so I pretended to be centrist just in case.


(Don't judge my last reply, it was 4 am)

how the fuck do they get your phone number just from you watching a video???????

This question in job interview would be illegal in Finland, as it should be.

It's also likely illegal in the US per the NLRA:

For example, you may not ... Coercively question employees about their own or coworkers' union activities or sympathies

Hmm, but a prospective hire in an interview is not an employee (yet). Is there any similar regulation covering interviews?

Not that I'm aware of. However, I've never been asked about union sympathies across all the interviews I've performed, even at aggressively anti-union companies like Aldi, which points to it violating the NLRA. The NLRA is intentionally broad, I'd have to actually comb through section 8 to see if it truly applies to prospects.

I think the reason that the board chose to focus on employee vs prospective hire is because they're trying to predict the most common scenarios of violations.

Fun fact: When asked an illegal question in such a situation (also landlords, ...), it's legal to lie (here in Germany, don't know about laws in other countries) because saying "I don't want to answer" would be too obvious. That said, I'm not 100% sure this very question is also illegal in Germany but I would guess so

i can’t imagine it ever being illegal to lie. but in the US they’ll just fire you for any other reason.

Same I. Denmark. That said it's very common for the employee to ask about it, because it's vital information when it comes to working conditions (both good and bad). It can be quite limiting some times.

  • So what motivates you?
  • I like subbing. Kissing my bosses ass makes me happy. By the way, can I call you daddy?

Why would I support a union when I could buy a PlayStation with my dues instead?!

Stronger unions = higher wages = more playstations :>

Oh, longtermism, I see /s

I don’t think that will fit on a poster in the break room.

My boss is maybe happier for union than me.

I want to work more hours but they won't let me because of the agreement with the union.

I live in Denmark 🤘

I want to earn more, not spend more time at work.

But I mean, I'm no shamer, if it floats your boat!

In my field of work, and in my country, the wages are set. At least it's an agreement between the employer and th union. I can't bargain or press for higher wages. My wage is predefined and will go up according to a preset because of the union

I have 37 hours a week. This is the maximum hours they allow.

I am happy for my job and I'd rather do more of something that makes me happy than have to look for an extra job in a different place. Let alone have to go to a different place of work when I could as well take more hours where I am. They do need extra employees but have to hire substitutes to cover the work

The problem with that mindset is if it's allowed, you'll all end up working more hours but for less or similar pay. I don't know if there is a fix for it except going independent.

Yes I can see the risk.

Mate you're living the dream. Inflexibility works in favour of the employee.

Imagine everything you do, and going above and beyond, and working extra hours, as a way of your boss manipulating your team so when performance reviews time comes in they can say the usual scripts:

  • you're not getting a raise that covers inflation and I'm sorry but it's out of my control
  • our company didn't make as much money as we expected ( and they never do because of infinite growth mindset on a finite planet)
  • the other companies are doing much worse than us
  • your co worker did this and that and it was so helpful, you should aim for doing double of what they did ( guilt trip that they will also do on your co worker that got the same raise as you, and heard what YOU did that now they have to top)

Source: I've been a manager in a big corpo and I've done and or seen all of the above. More seen than done, because I've kept my conscience sorta close to me.

You get paid for your lunch break as well. And you get paid more than in Sweden. Maybe that's the bribe for needing to live in Denmark 😛

But you don't have any individual salary discussions whatsoever? We also love our kollektivavtal, but you still usually get a certain percentage that's to be split around the employees... and there's nothing hindering you from negotiating higher outside of these discussions; if my raise was decided to be 3%, I could still talk to my boss a couple weeks later and say I want an additional 10% or I'm quitting. There's nothing union-related that'd block him doing that.

But it's still usually best to hop to a new place after a couple years, if numbers are the biggest factor for you.

I am new in this. Been at it for just over a year and only just got a full time, no end contract in February so I don't feel like I can press too hard. I feel like I pressed pretty hard to get the contract so I'll let it rest for now.

The EU ion actually told me that any wage negotiation needs to go through the representative at the organization but they feel like I could be eligible for a higher pay even though I am not officially (don't have enough experience on the field but I am good at it, have had no sick days and have multiple years experience from a similar job that uses a different union so it does not officially count as experience)

I feel like the union has been a bit limiting for my situation although know they are there to protect me. It's just not very flexible and maybe built around fairly rigid and predefined stereotypical employee lifestyles

Hmmm. Maybe you could start a side business in the field you currently do?

It's fine. I already had. Akon interview last week and got the job for substitute hours in a city close by.

The thing is, that organisation is in the same situation as the one I'm in. They have people employed, who want more hours but they aren't allowed to give them, because of the union. So their people have to find work in my city, some even where I work, and I have to find extra work there.. it's just innefective and a waste, it seems like

From my perspective it sounds like y'all don't get paid enough.

Assuming the US just avoid the AFL-CIO and similar government tools.

Love the spirit, but I'd recommend starting with workplace mapping and building an organizing committee first

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