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Ye Power Trippin' Bastardscross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/46148690
Over the past few days, @MrKaplan@lemmy.world/@MrKaplan@piefed.world has banned multiple users, blocked entire comms, and now defederated from Anarchist.Nexus over their anti-Zionist stance.
This extreme overreaction and general power trippin' bastard behavior stems from Lemmy.world's history of pro-Zionist views. And now MrKaplan is seeking out the flimsiest pretext to to enact his own personal vendetta.
Free Palestine, Death to Israel, Death to Zionism.
Lemmy.world is a ZioNazi instance. Avoid it like the plague.
Lol you're still federating with .zionism?
I’m calling for everyone to mass instance block world. Keep their blunders contained.
what comms do you recommend for news? i had LW blocked for a while because i found their consistent tolerance for mods promoting moral apathy unacceptable, however, then i found myself out of the loop news relevant to me.
i guess as long as i'm asking, i encourage others to post more to !world@quokk.au and some US focused news community or another. i know Beehaw has one but i can't find it right now
Got a suggestion on which instant to go to? I feel like I'll be permabanned from a .CA because I own a firearm.
I've been happy here. I don't think I've seen anyone complain about the culture.
That's interesting, I'd like to know what's up with that considering my instance is also Canadian. Also you might be interested in this community !ca_firearms_rights@sh.itjust.works
It will be such a waste to defederate one of the biggest instances because of this idiot...
Edited: clarification.
One? This is the first time? How many times over how many nazis has this come up?
For me this is the first time here to see an admin of world does this shit. I don't deny that I could have missed something.
Its mostly been mods before, but always with admin backing. Using size to say 'you cant defederate from us'.
Longer wait bigger problem.
It is an ongoing and well documented issue unfortunately
the 1 idiot is the head admin that can just unilaterally decide what to do. Meanwhile hexbear has huge threads voting on who to defederate, but guess who is known as "aUtHoRiTaRiAn"
Doesn't matter whom hexbears vote to defederate - a lot of other instances defederate them firstly, usually. Secondly, problematic admins can be in any instances, but still people do use that instances because of all the other content placed there.
So lets deny them our content. Push back.
Sounds reasonable but still problematic to migrate.
how is it problematic when a community member consistently causes problems in your community to disengage from them? i must be missing something
No they don't? Afaik hexbear is the one to defederate? Also anarchist flottilla are the only other ones to hold defederation votes, so my point still stands.
There are 3 main reasons to defederate instance, that I have encountered: political/social views; incompatible instances policies(like protecting spammers/trolls or just 1 admin hates others); technical issues(like connection lags). Unless instance is politically neutral or matches to the hexbear(like ml), it often defederates hexbear or any other instance(ml is an exception here since it is like the main developer's instance and so on).
Ok you're just making the same claim again but with different words?
Like you can find the defederation votes with a quick search: https://hexbear.net/search?q=defederat+vote&type=Posts&listingType=Local&page=1&sort=TopAll&titleOnly=false
I dont wanna list them all because almost every single one has some internet drama involved that I dont want to resurface, but you'll find most of the big instances were defederate by hexbear first.
Okay, then.
I... Might need a new home.
Check out Lemmy.dbzer0.com, anarchist.nexus or quokk.au
if you're into ecology, @tidderuuf@lemmy.world , i've head good things about https://slrpnk.net/
You really should.
Hilarious, i wonder if Dbzero will defederate too since they have the flotilla thing with anarchistnexus
Axis.world becoming fascist instance was going to happen eventually, they will probably call the flotilla instances tankie extremists to try to save face
certain users there already do
Of course he did. He's a fucking baby and .world is a toxic shithole. lolol
PTB!
LW does have a large “Reddit refuge lib” problem
“I can’t believe I got dunked on by the hexbears, communists really ARE terrorists! Also? We should execute the homeless. I am very smart.”
Barely hyperbole. 'Violemce bad, vivisect the damn commies!'
Oh my. We definitely will uproot the zionism in Lemmy by ... let me check ... getting defederated. Great LARPing. Also BPR.
Lets instead come up with methods that might actually be useful in pushing back zionism on Lemmy. Because for sure this aint it.
What's your plan, just ask the Zionists nicely to quit banning people?
Yes I love answering good faith questions! /s
Dunno, maybe instead cosplaying militancy, instance admins and supporting users could try to build a coalition of instances & communities to pressure lemmy.world to change their stance on zionism but also on their admins power tripping.
So like this but online.
i disagree. the fediverse is a vote with your feet situation from my observations of it the past 10 years. with lemmy.world, we have
- asked nicely, and seen them do nothing
- asked rudely, and seen them perform the theatrics of something all while doing nothing
- created easy paths for people to follow away from the most influential lemmy.world communities, and still the problem persists
- and now we're here. it seems like lemmy.world's administrators will never change. i treat their users like they're capable of change, just not necessarily aware, however, lemmy.world's size has created in their admin team's minds an attitude that they know best for the fediverse. i even find the name of their umbrella org, Fediverse Hosting Foundation a little concerning. it seems to de-emphasize their role in hosting a section of the fediverse and implies a higher degree of central importance than i'd ever want
but then. i'm just a rural boy from a dead mining town in what the early anarchist philosophers in Russia called a "resource colony," "internal colony," or "sacrifice zone."
banned multiple users, blocked entire comms, and now defederated from Anarchist.Nexus over their anti-Zionist stance.
The anti-Zionist stance being "If you don't agree I will FUCKING KILL YOU."
Yeah, can't imagine why one website doesn't like the other. Must be some totally unreasonable individual, with a shallow power fantasy.
If zionist colonizers don't want to experience the entirely justifiable violence of the colonized they can just go back to fucking Brooklyn
Tbh the Zionist stance is also “if you don’t agree I will kill you”
a) killing people that advocate for genocide is good and based
b) it was just one person unilaterally deciding for the whole instance to defederate
But nobody is actually killing any genociders. They are just saying it should be done. Which doesnt actually do anything, its just radical posturing without any meaningful impact on things.
while the lack of action and organization here in the west really is lamentable, anyone doing something illegal should not be posting about it online.
It's possible that everyone involved sucks.
Banning a guy literally calling for murder in his username is very much YDM.
Using dumbass terms like 'zionazis and shitlibs' (learn to articulate your point instead of repeating dumbass memes) and posting swastikas is BPR.
The murder of genocidal settlers is good
> commented from lemmy.world
opinion discarded.
And the other 2 banned who didn’t say that and only rightfully called the ZioNazis?
look how the zionists keep crawling out the woodwork.
posting swastikas
you mean the swastika of david?
look how the zionists keep crawling out the woodwork.
See:
(learn to articulate your point instead of repeating dumbass memes)
Ok more clearly: Putting "kill all zionists" in your username is good and based because it makes zionists like you reveal yourself.
'We should kill everyone like you' is a pretty difficult position to defend... in general. The ban message is straight up 'calls to murder [blank] in their username and also calls us [blank].' What in the name of god is moderation for, if not that? To say it's not a directed threat takes some real finagling.
You can squint real hard and insist 'Death to Israel' is a nonviolent sentiment about abstract political entities. Not so much with "Murder all Zionists." You can bicker "From the river to the sea" is genocide advocacy in one camp, but not from the other. There is no such ambiguity in any call to "Murder all [blank]."
I can't even guess what FHF means. I'm on Lemmy every goddamn day, it is not that busy, and I still don't know what half these people are talking about.
If zionist colonizers don’t want to experience the entirely justifiable violence of the colonized they can just go back to fucking Brooklyn
Nonono "death to israel" is about as nonviolent as the death to nazi germany was. People keep saying it's a call to kill all jews, which it is not, thats the distinction people made. But no one is under the impression that pissrael will just vanish nonviolently.
You can bicker “From the river to the sea” is genocide advocacy in one camp, but not from the other.
only if you're a zionist
If you think zionists dont need to die, youre part og the problem. We kill them or they keep going until theyve killed everyone.
Not a fan of zionism but this is a terrible argument and comes off like the navy seals copypasta.
Im not saying i can. Im saying those are the two ways this goes. They cant be negotiated with.
FHF is Fedi Hosting Foundation. No idea who they are or what fediverse services they host or promote.
Edit: they are apparently the org behind lemmy.world and the other associated platforms.
