Fubarberry
Steam HardwareLeaker here is Brad Lynch, who generally seems reliable as a leaker for Valve software and products. He was also the source for the leaked renders of the steam controller.
this is the only controller than will retire my alpakka 1
this is the only controller that might retire my wavebird
I have a bunch of nice controllers that all work on my gaming PC and Macs, etc.
But I’ll probally buy one of these too. I feel like it’s compulsory in a weird nagging way.
I'm waiting years for this, even longer than the Steam Deck exists! I think that I buy it twice, one to use it and the second one unpacked as a collectors item (plus as a backup). :-)
I want
Yay. My Playstation controller is at the point where it needs to be replaced. It's got both battery capacity issues and charging issues. I'm hoping that the Steam controller lasts longer than the PS4 Pro controller b/c for the price that Sony charges, I'd expect those to last longer than mine has, especially given how little time I spend playing / using it.
I've been looking forward to the Steam controller. I was starting to think I should give up and just go get another PS controller. Granted, I'm sure I won't get a first release Steam controller. They'll have a limited quantity and wouldn't surprise me if they're gone by the time that the steam store has recovered from the outage and bugs that crop up every time a new product goes on sale.
Didn’t the PS4 Pro controller come out 10 years ago?
Just a note, as someone who owns a Stream controller ignore the sticks, it's the pads you should be using.
Inject it straight to my htpc!
Oh snap it's got the Playstation joystick config.... I kinda want this to replace my dying DS4 I've repaired a few times now. I wonder how easy it'll be to reach over those pads and touch the sticks
I want this controller, but I am so annoyed that no controller on the planet comes with separated directional buttons for the D-Pad. Accidental diagonal input is the bane of my existence. The Nintendo Switch Joy-Cons have separate buttons and I freaking love it! But the ONLY reason they did that is to allow them to serve as ABXY when held sideways. No "real" controller does this.
The only option I've found to achieve this is to get a PlayStation controller (PS4 or PS5), and mod it with a kit that separates the buttons under the faceplate. But the extra features of the Steam Controller sound too good to sacrifice just for that.
The only D-Pad I've ever actually liked is the 3DS (XL), because it's so clicky and never caused accidental diagonal input. Seriously, how do people accept this crap?
So yeah, I really hope the D-Pad on this is clicky. I'll probably be buying it either way.
Xbox Series controller dpad is very clicky and well defined, so accidental diagonal inputs aren’t a concern with that one.
There’s likely a number of other similar clicky dpads on the market nowadays, it’s been popularised again with quite a few retro handhelds.
In some use cases the 4 buttons instead of the D pad on the Joy Cons are amazing. As you say, you have no false diagonals. I really like them in Tetris for example.
But in 2D platformers or metroidvanias like Mario or Hollow Knight? Literally unplayable.
I only accept it because I have become used to it.
Otherwise, I do tend to agree with you for the pretty rare time I need to not go accidental diagonal.
8bitdo d-pad is very clicky and defined
That controller is the lynchpin for making a mini PC my future home theater center. I care for it more than the steam machine
Same. Its a perfect device for running an HTPC / living room gaming device. Im planning navigate through streaming options, kodi, steam remote play, moonlight, and a bunch of emulators all with the same controller.
I know you didn't ask but i recommend looking into a rii mini keyboard with trackpad as well.
Got the Rii 4 recently to use with my Steam Deck since I got tired of my Roku I bought 6 years ago sending telemetry/statistics outbound (and getting blocked by my PiHole/router combo) that I unplugged it and threw it into a drawer. Excellent little piece of kit!
I hear yeah, I want that Controller, its everything I asked for after using the Deck plus more. My Steam Account is preloaded with Money cause I remember when the Steam Deck went pre order the payment processing couldnt keep up. Frame is interesting. But probably way to expensive for the little interest I have.
Oh thank you for the heads up! I might add money myself for this.
Same. I desperately hope they release a version with the regular thumbstick layout instead of the PlayStation layout that's on the Deck.
"Regular" thumbstick layout? PlayStation's was first.
EDIT: I see you edited your comment to remove "regular". Thank you! I've always been able to use either kind just fine, but I do prefer symmetrical, probably because I play a lot of 2D games and actually use the d-pad.
The PS1 controller was my first real PC controller btw, with an adapter! Back then it was such a blast to play emulation with such a great controller. As other PC controllers sucked for the most part.
It was kind of a pain to find a good controller for PC back in the day. It was nice when standard console controllers just worked with it.
This controller was peak design. I was using a DS3 as my go to pc controller for years before the sticks died.
I keep rebuilding the same DS4 controller as it's ideal as a PC controller, both wired and Bluetooth protocol. But it keeps breaking or wearing down on me and parts keep going up in price and the dang thing is getting beat up. I looked into the 8-bitdo controllers but I didn't care for the only one they had with the DS layout, their retro one.
I'll heavily consider the Steam Controller 2 if the price and quality is right.
I love every 8bitdo I own. The pro2 is great, aside from the Nintendo face button labels, it’s become my daily driver and dev controller.
I'm the opposite, Xbox button labels drive me crazy. I learned the layout on the SNES, so it's hard for me to adjust. I've gotten better since playing more PC games on my Steam Deck since the XBox layout is the default, though I always choose PS button prompts if the game has the option.
Universal glyphs are better imo. In my head I call them north, south, east, west instead of a, b, x, y (I’m pretty sure that’s how the facebuttons are labeled in the Linux kernel, regardless of Xbox,Nintendo,ps)
What about a PS5 controller?
lol who cares who's first if we're going with who's thumbstick layout was first then it's n64 and I think we agree nobody wants that
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Wii, Wii U, and Steam Deck (soon Steam Controller) did it that way
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N64 wasn't dual analog, so not relevant since it wasn't symmetrical or asymmetrical.
n64 is absolutely relevant in a discussion about analog sticks on console controllera
The layout was very very non standard and had a single stick. I’m smoking a lot of weed but I can tell you the n64 controller doesn’t count here.
Why would a single analog stick be relevant in a discussion of whether symmetrical or asymmetrical analog sticks are "regular"?
I'll just include consoles that came with symmetrical or asymmetrical for simplicity's sake:
Symmetrical:
PS2: 160 million
PS3: 87 million
PS4: 117 million
PS5: 92 million
Wii U: 14 million
Symmetrical total: 470 million
Asymmetrical:
Xbox: 24 million
Xbox 360: 84 million
Xbox One: 58 million
Xbox Series X: 35 million
Gamecube: 21 million
Switch: 155 million
Switch 2: 17 million
Asymmetrical total: 394 million
More people have played on symmetrical controllers than asymmetrical.
I prefer assymetrical xbox style for modern games where the analog stick is more important than dpad. For oldschool games I prefer the dpad on the outside (symmetrical) like Playstation does. Just my opinion.
hardly any of those are still in production by that logic a regular TV is a crt lol
The PlayStation controller is the same as a SNES controller, but with two sticks and finger grips.
Xbox took thier controller design from the Dreamcast. Which came out long after the SNES, and before the xbox.
What other way? The A and B buttons?
The sticks? I just explained to you why they have the layouts they do.
After getting the Steam Deck 2 months ago and playing quite some time with it I used my Xbox One controller this weekend for this first time since it couple of months.
It felt weird. Just because the ergonomics of the Steam Deck are actually pretty good.
I thought about getting the Steam Controller (once it's released). But I am still no fan of both sticks being in such a low position. The thing I really like about the Steam Deck is the fact, that all primary inputs (sticks, face buttons and d-pad) are positioned at the same height.
Somehow I never noticed that everything is nice and symmetrical until you mentioned. That… yeah, I think that’s even better than Sony’s design.
Hell yes.
