Catch 22 vs. Rosenhan
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Science MemesAnd yet, when the resident with the highest rate of correctly identifying impostors insists that the head psychiatrist is a reptoid, he is pooh-poohed.
Game respects game. They can spot a poser a mile away.
Raising questions about anything at work only gets you more work.
Makes sense, staff has relatively limited contact with patients compared to the other patients, and outside of research, what healthy person would get themselves admitted to a psychiatric hospital on purpose?
It does point to how difficult psychiatric diagnosis is, though. Though other medical fields tend to have the opposite problem, they tend to treat patients with real medical, non-psychological issues as pretenders or people with psychosomatic issues if it's not immediately obvious that they have a real medical issue.
Patients lying about symptoms have been a medical issue for centuries. It is the main topic of Baudrillard's philosophical analysis on simulacra and simulation. Think about it, a soldier who doesnt want to be deployed starts simulating symptoms of a disease to be discharged. How would you catch him, can you? The answer seems straight forward, until you scrutinize it in detail. Neither military or medical knowledge actually have an answer. The kid who doesn't want to go to school says he has a headache and a tummy ache. How do you validate another's conscious and sensory experience? Hypochondriacs affirm to develop every disease they hear about. People under stress feel and have somatic symptoms akin to physical diseases, even when functionally nothing is wrong with them. Etcetera. Disease and diagnosis are not so simple and straight forward, not even when talking about bodily functions.
Call that peer reviewed diagnosis
Huh, how accurate/precise (I always mix them up) were the real patients? Did they just identify every other patient as an imposter?
Sometimes the visual example doesn't work well when describing math. So an alternate:
Pick a number 1 - 10. 8. Correct and accurate.
Pick a number 1 - 10. 3.1415926535. Uhh, precise, but not accurate.
Or:
Accurate is drilling the hole in the middle. Precise is picking the exact right size drill bit.
I’d be interested in consistency too.
This shows the difference between accuracy and precision.
The high accuracy, low precision regime seems so strange to me! I think not many would call that situation “high accuracy” with most of the shots missing the bullseye!
Plus it seems like if you just keep increasing accuracy, you necessarily force all the shots to converge on the bullseye, don’t you? Then you get precision “for free” which is strange!
There's also a difference between not knowing the difference and always getting them mixed up. The diagram doesn't help with the stated problem. Also, it doesn't address the question.
You're not wrong, but visuals often help so it doesn't hurt to share. I remember this picture when I need to differentiate the two terms, but some people use mnemonics or other memory devices.
Thank you.
Accuracy is about the abilty to hit a specific target, Precision is about being able to repeat it.
