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AsklemmyI understand that some of the criticism comes from conservatives but the sentiment seems to extend far beyond thst. Of course, I understand it when it's forced or when someone only does it to survive against their will. But if people genuinely want to do it, why do people hate on them?
people think it's easy money and get jealous
and people like that never realize just how much work actually goes into it (speaking from personal experience here)
I don't care for ads. They are basically living ads.
Sex workers face mortality rates from overdose that dwarf the general population. We're talking about an external-cause mortality risk roughly 8-12 times higher for these marginalized groups. The direct link is undeniable: studies show a significant history of substance dependence (100% in one cohort) with opioids involved in ~90% of those fatal events. It's crucial to note these are likely "conservative estimates" because many records don't capture sex work status.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12405828/
The driving factor isn't the work itself, but the trauma surrounding it. You see a high burden of PTSD, anxiety, and depression that predates or coincides with substance use. For many, the drug use, especially "polysubstance" mixing of opioids and benzos, is a form of self-medication to numb the violence and stigma
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/acps.13559
The overdose is often a direct consequence of criminalization and policing. Research shows that when police target sex workers or create barriers to safe consumption sites, the odds of a fatal overdose more than double (AOR 2.15)
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0955395922003668?fr=RR-2&ref=pdf_download&rr=9d06bca97a56066e
ITT: misogyny
They don’t. Generally, nobody cares. The few that do are just so damn loud you'd think there was a lot of them.
There are a lot ore conservatives in the world than you would believe if you live in a big city and/or a developed western nation.
Misogyny.
So you are saying some people want to do porn, and others don't. Presumably because some like it and some don't. They all do it for money though, none of them do it for free.
What's the basis of knowing if someone does it because they like it then? Because they say so?
I mean that is the same basis for regular labor so yes because they said so
I only have a problem with sex work if people feel like they have to do it to make ends meet, or if they are being coerced into it. The latter being a big problem in the porn industry.
All work is done through coercition Some coercition are worst than other, but the all the worst one are not only in sex works. Fighting for emancipation is done by the workers themselves, not aqainst them
The first is a form of coercion as well.
I feel like I have to do my job to make ends meet - how is that different from sex work? Coercion is a different story
Fact is, we humans make quite surplus enough for everyone to make ends meet. Your job is a form of coercion, to make others money. That health care in the U.S. is tied to one's job is evidence of that. That housing is dependent on mortgages being paid consistently or one risks homelessness is more evidence still. Taxes are coercion by governments to give credence to fiat currency, not because they need it to pay for goods and services... they could print money to pay for goods if that weren't true. Point is jobs are coercion, and sex workers are under the same pressures I described above, enough that I doubt any sex worker is in it just for their love of the game.
And thus... Sex work is no different to the others
Then why so many sex workers die from drug overdose?
Why do so many people in other jobs die from a drug overdose? Because the world sucks
Sex workers face mortality rates from overdose that dwarf the general population. We're talking about an external-cause mortality risk roughly 8-12 times higher for these marginalized groups. The direct link is undeniable: studies show a significant history of substance dependence (100% in one cohort) with opioids involved in ~90% of those fatal events. It's crucial to note these are likely "conservative estimates" because many records don't capture sex work status.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12405828/
The driving factor isn't the work itself, but the trauma surrounding it. You see a high burden of PTSD, anxiety, and depression that predates or coincides with substance use. For many, the drug use, especially "polysubstance" mixing of opioids and benzos, is a form of self-medication to numb the violence and stigma
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/acps.13559
The overdose is often a direct consequence of criminalization and policing. Research shows that when police target sex workers or create barriers to safe consumption sites, the odds of a fatal overdose more than double (AOR 2.15)
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0955395922003668?fr=RR-2&ref=pdf_download&rr=9d06bca97a56066e
I agree with what you've said but I don't consider these things as caused by the job, rather symptomatic of how the job is treated in society (and how poorly regulated human trafficking for sex work is)
Time to abolish anesthesiologists
and that's why sex workers made their unions too
I think they mean it's their only option to make ends meet.
I respect sex workers but I really don't want to be advertised to while I'm jerking off, or ever really. Like if i'm in the market for buying nudes I'll come to you. I have nothing against anyone who buys or sells pics on onlyfans.
how do find these people if they can't market themselves? (honest question)
Of course, I understand it when it's forced or when someone only does it to survive against their will. But if people genuinely want to do it, why do people hate on them?
Replace 'porn star' with 'slave' and you'll understand. There might be a section of the population that would like to be a slave, but we have, as a society, decided that people shouldn't be bought and sold like furniture.
Of course, the hatred should be aimed at the economic and social systems that allow people to buy others' dignity, not at the victims of that system.
Are you comparing OnlyFans to literal slavery? You do know that they get paid, right?
Slaves could get paid and buy their freedom in many historical societies.
I think the comparison is about want and need. They do it because they feel forced into it, by some means or another.
Not most of them, apparently!
Having spoken with a few women that have done things adjacent to pornography, their regrets are mostly in regards to the way they were treated by people that were not in the industry. The escorts I've spoken with enjoy the work itself, although not necessarily all of the customers.
What you're saying about the horrors of pornography and prostitution apply to ALL people that need to work for a living. The company I work for buys my time, the product of my labor--which they sell for many times what I'm paid--and even my dignity by forcing me to wear a uniform of their choice. I absolutely do not like the customers that ultimately purchase the products of my labor, but I have little choice if I want to have a place to live, and food to eat.
The escorts I've spoken with enjoy the work itself
Like I said, I'm sure there are people who enjoy this, but the system is still exploitative and harmful.
What you're saying about the horrors of pornography and prostitution apply to ALL people that need to work for a living ...
Yes. In an ideal world, people won't have to do any dangerous or difficult jobs. But for now, we can't start with the worst offenders.
Yes. In an ideal world, people won’t have to do any dangerous or difficult jobs. But for now, we can’t start with the worst offenders.
do you believe that all sex work is dangerous or difficult?
do you believe that easy & safe but compulsory work as a means to get obtain food and shelter is an ideal world?
I think there are no worst offenders here, all labor is valid as in all labor is exploitative in a capitalist system
Dignity is very relative here, I think you can be a sex worker and keep your dignity
There are significant differences to being forced to sell your mind, competence and time; vs being forced to auction off the another's use of your own genitals.
Please explain what those differences are without using any magical thinking that places sex into a sacred sphere of human activity that is holy and sacrosanct?
Or don't. My point is you can tell how serious a person is when they start talking about the morality of sex by replacing every mention of sex in their point with "boxing". It's still a highly physical one-on-one activity that's a crime of both participants haven't consented, so if the exact same argument doesn't make sense when made about boxing then they are thinking magically about sex and not materialistically.
Because most cultures have been heavily influenced by cultures descended from the bronze age sheep fuckers who came up with the idea of virginity as a way of ensuring paternity and maximizing the price they could charge for selling their preteen daughters to old men.
I think a lot of hate comes from:
- People who are jealous of people with natural looks
- People are jealous of people who have more motivation than them to exercise and keep their bodies healthy
- Men who exercise and work on their bodies but can't make any money from it
Men who exercise and work on their bodies but can’t make any money from it
I mean they can, there are many male OF models and some don't even work out, you only need to find your place in the market (usually with a kink)
i wish i had this realization when i was younger. lol
back then, i was deeply confused when i learned that people were getting off to a surreptitiously recorded hookup that featured me because i assumed no fancied me; yet there was in in my full glory laughing at the wailing coming from the man i'm pleasuring and the video had over 100k likes/upvotes.
it wouldn't have made me a millionaire; but it would have gotten me a hell of a lot closer than i will ever be. lol
and at least i got a husband out of the whole affair; i like silver linings. lol
damn that sounds hot no wonder it got many likes lol
you would be surprised, a friend of mine got popular with their low quality gay orgy videos and now lives on Canada and its part of a polycule
yep, lots of jealousy
and they never realize just how much work is actually involved
for real this topic always comes along when my bf jokes about opening an OF together
i bluntly respond with "yeah we just need to market ourselves on elon's twitter for months with teasers and maybe paying for that blue mark while networking with other creators"
You forgot:
- Bitter incels
Those are probably covered by the other three groups
my issue...
they are just ads with tits. (yes, I'm being blunt). they come into social settings and post images or whatever, and it's just yo... you with the penis. give me money because I have tits.
overall, I have no issue with the site. but FFS .. STAY ON THAT SITE. don't come here and advertise your ass cheese. its annoying and the majority dgaf.
this applies to onlyfans because pornstars... well they don't do that shit. they keep their crap to normal ads (which still suck) and their sites. I have respect for pornstars, I have no respect for onlyfans 'gimmie money' clowns
tell me you hate women without telling me you hate women
re-reading what you actually replied too.
shut up, you're an absolute twat
Apparently one of the reasons for advertising off-site is because OF does not have an on-site discovery mechanism. So there really aren't other options. Not the fault of the performers.
Huh. I would have guessed that they would try to get consumers to subscribe to as many providers as possible and constantly suggest new ones (social media style)
Ass cheese? Link?
This is probably a hot take, but it's because society has this weird aversion to sex even though it's necessary for us to continue existing. This aversion extends to sex work in general and is also the reason why the field has so many problems.
I’m no prude, but I also don’t think a lot of porn actors really want to be doing what they are doing. There is a lot of manipulation, drugging, exploitation, and straight up criminal activity that a large porn industry begets. But if you regulate it, if you protect sex workers, if you disallow access for younger people (I’m not for age verification, I’m saying parent/guardian intervention), if you allow the actors to have agency and full authority over their own work, then cool. I think there needs to be a lot more study and subsequent awareness what early access to pornography does to a young mind. I truly believe that porn is responsible for the increase in vociferous misogyny we are seeing with young men, enabled by the manosphere, which is just chock-full of sex predators and straight up pedophiles. To start to even have these discussions though, the taboo around sex needs to be widely removed.
There is a lot of manipulation, drugging, exploitation, and straight up criminal activity that a large porn industry begets.
I'd be curious to see the stats, but I'd be shocked if this hasn't gotten much better since like the 70s-90s. For one, OF does allow for freelance work. Also, I've seen more and more professional porn outfits that are created/run by women.
Being ran by women doesn't mean shit. Women can be abusers too, and even can take advantage of that sentiment to assist going under the radar. Look at one of the worst examples, Ghislaine Maxwell.
I've always been curious about the effects on minors as well, especially with a country like Japan where sex is much more widely accepted and pornography is just out on display in some stores. From what I've heard, Japan has always had the mentality that porn would be either unappealing to minors or, specifically for games, would be to difficult for them to actually play because they'd have trouble reading the text. I know that Japan has done studies on other porn related topics, so maybe they have in the past and were able to come to this conclusion.
One modern issue is that sites like OnlyFans has caused is a unique type of spam as various models spam in a lot of places in order to build their audience.
american puratism has infected the world.
Apologies if i'm wrong, isn't it puritanism
Some people genuinely have a problem with it.
But I’m convinced that the majority of it is just: It’s embarrassing (and therefore costs social capital) to defend it.
So therefore: If you attach it to something else you want to attack, you just gave yourself a strategic advantage.
So long as it’s entirely consensual for all who’s involved and every one is of adult age I don’t see the problem …
The problem is that under capitalism very little labor is entirely voluntary. Most people have to take the job they get, almost no one does sex work voluntarily.
Sex is still seen as a Taboo. It's 2026 guys, come on!
You say that, but outside of Europe, I'm fairly sure much of society is getting less permissive since the 60s.
It can only get worse!
Reducing people to objects is generally bad.
Only fans also promote sexualization of girls/teens.
It's well established in social research that the patriarchy uses sexual objectification of women to help keep them reduced as second class citizens.
It helps promote the idea that "women want to be sexually assaulted and they like sexual harassment".
Taking blame from the predators.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectification
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-objectification
Additionally. Turning intimacy and affection into something to be sold or bought devalues this aspect of human connection.
https://www.thorn.org/research/library/commodified-online-sexual-interactions/
Consent and Commodification: Objections to the Market for Sex Work https://pressbooks.lib.vt.edu/pper/chapter/article-4/
I personally think sex work should be decriminalized for the prostitute but not the johns.
Sex work is not something people do because its a choice but out of need for finances.
Meaning it's a form of coercion and exploitation.
You could argue most work/labor is that. It is. I won't say its not.
But sex work perpetuates harm more (physical, mental and promotes misogyny in our society) and specifically harms women the most. Though it harms anyone working in that industry.
Sex work is not something people do because its a choice but out of need for finances.
This may be true in many or most cases but I’ve met sex workers who like their job and want to keep doing it because it’s an easy and fun way to make a lot of money.
Easy money. So finances?
Self objectification is also a problem in our society.
Do you remember how women athletes used to say all the time how it was empowering to be naked in the swimsuit sports illustrated magazine.
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Our culture has convinced women that their greatest value is being sexy and getting sexual attention and unfortunately a lot of younger women believe this.
They don't realize that this mindset and acceptance of these values promote the very system that harms them and others.
This is getting too close to denying women agency for my liking.
Easier money than doing other work. They could make ends meet other ways, I’m sure, but this is easier and more fun.
Like, I could make ends meet as a roofer but making more money for sitting in front of a computer is easier and more fun.
As for the other stuff, all I can say is that they weren’t all women.
I think you are really downplaying the risks here. I have friends who have done sex work. It's incredibly dangerous. Men may hurt you. They may stalk you. They may give you a std.
Sometimes the woman agrees to a specific service and the man forces her to do something she said she didn't want to do.
It's not like they can go to the police.
Police will just say "well that's what you get for being a whore".
Trans women in sex work have even higher rates of violence and murder.
Men (usually young) are also subjected to the same risks as women.
Also just because it's easy doesn't mean it's the best long term option
I mean most of the problems in this world are caused by people wanting things the easy way even if it makes things harder later.
Do sex work in your 20s instead of developing a career. Then when you are too old and 40 with no job prospects and no skills, and no one wants you. What then ?
think you are really downplaying the risks here. I have friends who have done sex work.
As do I. Friends and family both. And I have never heard a sex worker say any of the things you ascribe to them.
Do sex work in your 20s instead of developing a career. Then when you are too old and 40 with no job prospects and no skills, and no one wants you. What then ?
I'm wondering if you actually know that many people in the industry. Bcs I'm middle aged, everyone I know who does SW is close to my age, so they're all 35+, mostly over 40, and doing fine.
But if that weren't the case, the same question can be asked of anyone doing manual labor, once your body breaks down (which happens a lot earlier for manual laborers), what do you do?
To borrow an old quote: If you think that the prostitute sells her body and the coal miner does not, your view of labor is clouded by your puritanical view of sex.
Okay so you don't actually know anyone who has aged out of sex work .
My "puritanical views". Is this a joke?
My stance is I'm against human trafficking. I'm against pimps. I'm against workers being hurt by johns. I'm against the promotion of misogyny and objectification of people. I'm against capitalism turning human connection into just another thing to exploit for money. I'm especially against the harms it perpetuates in society.
And I'm against people resorting to the high risk sex work because it's the easy choice when there should be better options for people.
People have more value that tits and ass. Or a hole.
They actually do.
You can pretend the risks and statistics I gave you aren't real.
It doesn't make them false.
Also I certainly don't appreciate your strawman what-aboutism argument.
We aren't talking about people who do labor jobs. We are talking about sex workers.
Jesus. How can you possibly believe that sex work is good for women. I mean. Seriously. How fucked up is it to believe that ?
Why would you support the systems that harm women the most. Why. ? Do you hate women ? I can't see why anyone would think sex work is a great career opportunity for women except people like Epstein and trump.
Cause those are the types of people that benefit from women being exploited this way.
Okay so you don't actually know anyone who has aged out of sex work .
And obviously neither do you. But I do know men women and enbys still doing and enjoying sex work at the age you specifically picked as the age where they "can't" do it anymore and their life will be over for having done sex work. Which was my point, and one you've utterly failed to engage with since you now know you were very wrong.
My "puritanical views". Is this a joke?
No, it's a quote, and I apparently misremembered it, since the original word was "moralistic" not "puritanical".
To be clear: sex work is as bad as any other form of labor coerced by capitalism, it just isn't worse than any other form of labor coerced by capitalism. Only the kind of magical thinking that says sex is some special sphere of human activity that should be considered sacred would ever tell you otherwise.
And the pimps, Epsteins, and human traffickers of the world benefit directly from moralistic views of sex. If we treated sex exactly the same as any other full contact sport, there would be far less danger for sex workers who report bad behavior from clients or employers, and there would be far less demand from creeps who want to buy children, because there is a definite correlation (even if no proven causal link) between heavily moralistic views of sex and CSA. This is why religious leaders so often wind up being child rapists.
Finally if you think there's anything strawman or whataboutism in comparing sex work to any other form of work under capitalism, then you do not understand the point I'm making at all, which is that there is no moral difference between the sex worker and the coal miner in a capitalist society. In a socialist society there's a discussion to be had about whether sex work is socially necessary labor, but there is no question it is labor.
Which is why every one of them supported making sex work legal so they have those protections.
How does making sex work legal help a 40 year old with no skills or job experience?
Decriminalizing sex work is much more effective at reducing crime on the sex workers.
If you don't believe me, look into the Netherlands.
They have a huge problem with sex trafficking because it's legal to sell sex there.
It doesn't protect anyone. It encourages sex trafficking and pimping. Especially for foreign victims and young girls.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_trafficking_in_the_Netherlands
In 2017, it was estimated by the Dutch National Rapporteur on Trafficking in Human Beings and Sexual Violence against Children that more than 6,000 people in the Netherlands fall victim to human trafficking each year.[6][7] Two thirds of the people trafficked, about 4,000 people per year, fall victim to sexual slavery and abuse.[6] This group consisted largely of Dutch women, including minors (1,320 girls each year) who were preyed upon by so-called "lover boys".[7] The other 2,000 victims of human trafficking were largely foreigners who were put to work by organized crime groups.[6]
https://humanityinaction.org/knowledge_detail/the-audacity-of-tolerance-a-critical-analysis-of-legalized-prostitution-in-amsterdams-red-light-district/
I know it sounds like legalizing it would help sex workers. But the reality is that it doesn't.
Objectification of bodies never leads to good ends.
https://eclj.org/geopolitics/eu/legal-prostitution-and-human-trafficking-in-the-netherlands?lng=en
How about instead we invest in free education and job training and pay people a living wage so that the dangerous sex work isn't their best option for survival.
For real
My opinion is that, if you ignore the judeo-christian prudishness, it comes down to two things.
First, some jealousy. It looks like easy money, and they're having sex (in the case of porn actors), so there's this almost subconscious anger that someone else found a trick to "get rich". Thing is with that, the only people getting rich in porn were/are the producers. Only fans shifted that a little, but the company takes a cut like any asshole pimp would. I've actually heard people irl express things that lead me to believe this is a common factor.
Second is the fact that a large swath of people, even though otherwise open minded and unconcerned about sex issues, still think that the only reason one would sell their sexuality is because they can't do better. It's the whole thing where humans like to piss downhill. Anyone doing something that a person considers "below" them is gong to be seen as inherently flawed. That doesn't apply only to porn, btw.
Hell, I fall prey to the trope that anyone doing porn must have some kind of trauma, if I don't pay attention to myself. It is true that porn as it exists in this world is marginalized, and heavily staffed by sufferers of trauma. It actually is one of those jobs where people that have serious mental health problems and/or drug dependency get drawn to because it's relatively easy to find and keep income compared to other jobs when you have those issues.
Since porn is marginalized, there is a significant portion of the on screen workers that don't have many other options. It's super easy for someone young, undereducated, and desperate to end up being paid to show their body or fuck. Since someone in that situation is going to get paid less doing anything else they could find, the industry is heavily weighted towards that population (partially because of the ease of finding desperate people, and mostly because the desperate are easier to exploit and abuse).
Only fans runs closer to neutral since it is based in individuals. So while abuse occurs, and there's a lot wrong with the company, the real abuse only happens when an outside person is forcing a model or models to perform. Not that porn is free of trafficking and forced labor, but it's less useful to do that for porn when there's easier ways to exploit someone there.
That's my take anyway. It's based on casual conversations with people that object to porn in its various guises, and the rest from casual exposure to interviews and conversations with adult performers
Personal view from someone who considers themselves pretty liberal: I don't get why people spend money on it.
I have no issue at all with anything someone does to make money, provided it doesn't hurt anyone else. Good for them, wish I was attractive enough to do it. I'd have absolutely no issue with my wife or sister or friend earning money this way.
What I do object to, is low effort. Not just OF/porn, but influencers and streamers more widely. Fake noises, grotesque leering, begging for money - none of it is real, and it doesn't interest me in the slightest. It doesn't appeal to me as a consumer, and I don't understand at all that it does for anyone. Obviously it does work and people do pay money to watch it but I'm genuinely bewildered why. If you want porn, it's everywhere for free. If anyone reading is a viewer, please do try to educate me on what you get out of it!
(Also, I do know there are people who genuinely enjoy performing and put a lot of effort into producing quality, it's not all shite)
True story; I used to employ a chap doing building work. He was straight, married (but open, he slept with several of our female staff), good looking and very fit - and one day he handed me his notice. He said he'd been doing OF and gay porn at the weekends and he was making ten times the money in half a day doing that than he was working five days for me. Good for him, he was able to afford a lifestyle he couldn't otherwise.
Porn & SW make much more sense to me than streamers and influencers.
It’s a good question. I honestly don’t have an answer. If a person wakes up one day and says hey, that’s what I want to do. Who are we to judge it?
What happens is they wake up. Broke. And think. I have no other options. Or someone else talks them into it. People don't usually get into sex work because they enjoy it.
There are some high libido people who do. But they are the exception not the norm.
Usually it is who they consider their boyfriend who talks them into performing on OF. It is actually their virtual pimp.
Yeah quite a lot are married too. Kinda messed up.
It's funny that people here are boiling down prostitution (which is what porn is) to "just sex", that probably says something about social conditions! It's the natural progression of western feminism that demonizes minority men (particularly Palestinians I might add) & casts slavery as empowerment. Onlyfans top percentile performers are essentially madams due to their relationship to the global system of extraction that subsidizes them. Like the majority of porn, Onlyfans makes most of its money off the same thing Xitter does now—desperate people in third world countries.
People frame "soft" prostitution as voluntary, but if you're performing sex acts or doing things which make you uncomfortable that you wouldn't have done without money, that's coercion. You are being sexually assaulted. In fact, that is the main draw of "live" porn platforms, being able to coerce women directly into doing things which make them increasingly uncomfortable.
You should be mindful of the platform's position in the surveillance + tech bubble as well. Has nobody mentioned it's an Israeli company? That seems to elicit the disgust that anything Silicon Valley-related ought to, since 2023 anyways
I have no problem with them doing it, I just probably would never date anyone who has had an only fans. It's something young women/men should be aware of that they automatically exclude themselves from a huge part of the dating pool when they make a decision like that. If they are ok with that, more power to them! Kind of like having 30+ sexual partners. It seems to take pieces of your soul, and it takes decades of work to get those pieces back together in my opinion. Most people are inherently turned off by that for a reason.
lmao
It's something young women/men should be aware of that they automatically exclude themselves from a huge part of the dating pool when they make a decision like that.
And nothing of value is lost. Who wants to date someone with weird moralistic hangups about sex, unless they share those hangups?
It must be a you problem
Not morally acceptable, is disgusting. The fact that people show off their body to thousands of people and wanna make money off it is not morally acceptable.
Why not? Genuinely curious
Womp womp
I'm not seeing the amorality. It's not like they're hurting anyone.
I would actually say that it is "amoral" in that it isn't in the realm of moral judgment in the first place.
I think "immoral" was the word you were looking for.
sure
They're not harming anyone physically. But they are mentally for sure. Many of the young generation are falling to porn and getting addicted to it, and many even get addicted to the point that their taste grows more extreme and at one point, they start enjoying gore stuff. There are just so many more harmful sides to porn
First of all, I'd love to see some sources for your claims, 'cause that's a whole cartfull of slippery slope bullshit.
Second of all, so? That's the person's own choice, and they aren't hurting anyone.
What if it's just for fun and not for money? Is that morally okay? Or is it just nudity is icky?
So...shut down the fashion industry and Hollywood?
Those are at least better than porn and OnlyFans
How so?
What's the difference between Halle Berry getting an extra million to take her top off in Swordfish and an Onlyfans girl, aside from the number of zeroes on the check?
All jobs require someone to use their body in order for them to make money, I would much rather show my body for money than to do physical labor for money.
Meanwhile, I would rather do physical labour than show my private parts and let people use me as they please. Because I have dignity and self-respect.
Because I have dignity and self-respect.
Not of you're publicly announcing that you're so backwards-minded that you look down on sex workers, you don't. Imagine being that gross of a person and proud of it.
Meanwhile, I would rather do physical labour than show my private parts
It's almost as if it should be your choice
Ironically, you've just described the lyrics of Lori Meyers by NOFX but from the worst take possible.
Guess we gotta ban all those workout tapes and virtual gyms too?
People who think metaphysically about sex are not ever going to see the logical inconsistencies in their world view. To them that actually is different, because to them sex is magic and not biochemistry.
