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Science MemesThis problem is english language specific. It's called the dark side of the moon. In french, we say "face cachée": hidden side.
I had to explain to a co-worker today, that the far side of the moon and the shadow side is not the same thing. I'm amazed how uninformed some people are.
Wait a second...
In theory we'd have an XK class event pretty much monthly
It's only the far side from Earth.
They even did call it the far side, not the dark side.
Because the dark side of the moon is in fact not dark most of the time.
Because the dark side of the moon is in fact not dark most of the time.
Exactly half of the time right?
Ironically, the dark side of the moon is lit a bit more than the light side. Dark side is gonna be almost exactly half of the time, light side is a bit less because it's the side facing the sun during lunar eclipses.
Same argument for the dark side of the moon getting more light than the earth because of solar eclipses (if we're comparing % light coverage, not total photons).
Certainly not Earth so maybe Pluto?
Other explained this in more detail, but TLDR:
The moon waxes and wanes from earth's perspective throughout the month, yet half the moon is always facing the sun. Just being tidally locked doesn't mean it doesn't get sun.
As someone else said:
Dark Side ≠ Far Side
Actually it does, which is often the cause of the misconception. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_side_of_the_Moon
So the correct expression would be: Far side / Dark side ≠ Shadow side.
Yeah, it makes a lot more sense when you consider that the far side has to be lit during an eclipse.
Solar eclipse. The near side is blocked from being lit in a lunar eclipse
I guess she never thought about how moon cycles work.
But also, one could've probably told her that the reason it was light was because they went up there during the day (which is technically true from the perspective of the moon).
One thing I hadn't really thought of before was the reason as to why one side of the moon is always facing earth, aka tidal locking, so that was a fun read.
This is actually neither the far side nor the near side; it's in between the two.
The "side side"?
Woohoo. Side-moon!
The headlights of the spaceship of course
So they have the same kind of headlights that brodozers have, gotcha
You're ill-informed!
They used the flash duhh...
Ooh I recognize that twitter account. "Ill-informed" is an understatement.
Highly recommend the book “Doppelganger” by Naomi Klein where she talks about how weird it is to get confused with Naomi Wolf. A real feminist vs a playactor, just like how the right playacts science and reason by ‘doing their own research’ and playacts working class solidarity by showering the public with populist propaganda while shredding their legal protections
Great book.
I wonder if people living in Belfast in the 1970s would have described it as calm, still, peaceful, restful or natural.
For people like that "peaceful" means "no brown people".
Makes me think the account is satire, knowing nothing else about it outside this thread
It's not https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naomi_Wolf
Genuinely curious how she's a doctor.
You don't have to be smart to be a doctor. Hell you don't even have to be well educated in any meaningful sense.
You just have to either have enough time, money or dedication to one hyper niche field to get a piece of paper that says your a doctor.
It's both harder then you would think and easier then you would think.
Iv met and worked with so many people that have a doctorate that barely have a passable high school understanding of the world around them or anything at all out side of their doctorate. That I would genuinely trust a middle schooler from Mississippi more then them with just about fucking anything.
A doctorate should never be taken at face value of someone's intelligence.
Exactly. Not an advanced degree, but my HS valedictorian was one of the dumbest people I've ever met. But she spent hours every day memorizing information she didn't understand just to be able to regurgitate it on the test.
Our salutatorian should have been first, but he was actually smart and didn't try very hard.
She's has a doctorate in philosophy.
She got it because that was the only way to get rid of her?
Jesus fuck. I was born and raised in Belfast, there's absolutely nothing about the experience today (out in 2019) that even remotely resembles the 70's.
also the 1970s weren't some magical time for living a naturalist/naturist life. in the northern empires, lead based paint and lead based fuels were in common use. in the global south, genocidal dictators carried out brutal violence to impress whichever northern empire they were affiliated with.
the fact that she wants to revisit the 1970s speaks to a great degree of access to privilege within capitalism, white supremacy, and even the patriarchy despite her presented gender.
As another example, the Cuyahoga River famously caught fire in 1969. That isn't technically the 70s, but I wouldn't have gone near it anytime during that decade.
The cuyahoga was only just declared safe to swim in last year. the bill that led to its eventual cleaning was passed in 1972. it was probably at its absolute nastiest in September of 1972.
Exhibit n we're giving out doctorate degrees like candy.
A STEM PhD should be able to read and write at a high level and an PhD in English should have a modicum of knowledge of the world that surrounds us. This type of communication shenanigans only strengthens the current zeitgeist of anti-intellectualism IMHO.
note: That is assuming this isn't a satire account, which it very likely is, I refuse to believe this level of stupidity hasn't been selected against.
Unfortunately it's very real. The author Naomi Klein has a great book about Naomi Wolf called Doppelganger, based on the fact that people keep getting the two of them confused. Her descent into the right-wing conspiracy world is quite a thing.
Quite funny to see someone call Belfast calm and peaceful though. I'm in it quite regularly and usually just want to get out as soon as I can.
Shit, this splash of sad reality doesn't help with my suicidal tendencies...
Supposedly student are now relying on AI so much that they are parroting it. Things are gonna get worse, because everyone will have a doctorate soon and the owners of AI can guide them.
Yeah but they have 4G! THAT IS STRAIGHT POISON!
No no no, 3G was deadly up and until 4G came, then 4G was deadly until 5G came around.
She should be more sceptical of how the astronauts transmitted the image ...
5G in space!!!
Obviously with 0g
A lunatic confused by the moon. There's a certain poetry to that.
English major
You're an ill-informed English major. You instructed me to call you that, so I did.
The light source for this image is the Sun.
"The dark side of the moon" is a phrase that seems to have a strange effect on people; they seem to use that phrase to incorrectly mean the far side of the moon, and then that puts the idea in their heads that the far side is always dark. It isn't; the far side is fixed, the dark side is constantly changing.
The Moon is tidally locked to Earth, this means the moon's rotational speed and its orbital period are the same, the moon rotates once on its axis for every one orbit of the Earth it performs, meaning it doesn't (significantly) rotate when seen from Earth. No human saw the far side of the moon until the Soviets flew a satellite around it, and only 27 men and 1 woman have ever seen it with their own eyes. Until this week, those numbers were 24 and 0.
It is hidden from us but not from the Sun; we observe the Earth waxing and waning, being full and then half a month later being new. When the moon is new, the near side is in darkness and the far side is in light. On the Lunar surface, a day and night takes an entire month, while the continents and oceans of the Earth hanging still in space overhead whirl past nearly 30 times.
Finally...the image above isn't the whole far side. About half of the near side is visible; the big dark patch to the right is the Ocean of Storms, most of the Sea of Rain is visible as well. Kepler and Copernicus crater are visible, Tycho is just out of shot, if you look closely you can just barely see one of Tycho's rays across the Sea of Clouds. That one very dark patch just right of center is Grimaldi crater. All those features are visible from the Earth, in fact two of the Apollo landing sites are visible here, 12 and 14. The very large carter, the dark patch to the left of center of the image is Mare Orientale, which is just barely visible on the edge of the Moon from Earth, from our point of view it's on the "side". It's eastern ridge is visible from Earth but we don't really see the dark mare itself.
This one moons
A good summary. I doubt the person who tweeted (?xed?) that ignorance is going to read it, though. And even if they were to read it, would probably not listen. This is moon-landing-hoax level ignorance and its most likely performative and maliciously intended.
But kudos to you still. I hope your post reaches other ill-informed, but less ignorant people, who need to hear this and might even appreciate, that you are enlightening the dark sides of their knowledge.
The platform should be called Xitter and a tweet is a xeet now. So “someone tweeted a tweet” is now “someone xat a xeet”. The X is pronounced “sh” like in shine. Hope this helps.
I'm linguistically 100% convinced. Somehow I have an intuitive understanding of the concept. Wonder where that came from...
"Dark side of the moon" is the most idiotic phrase ever. If anything, the far side gets significatnly more sunlight so should really be called the "light side".
By what mechanism does the far side get more sunlight? Because it's never sees...what would we call them from the Moon's perspective? Solar eclipses? Terran eclipses? Every single New Moon the far side is fully sunlit, but on occasion on Full Moons the Moon flies through Earth's shadow?
The far side can get darker than the near side. During the lunar night, the near side experiences earthshine, which is significantly brighter than the moonshine we get here on Earth (Earth is larger in the sky and has a higher albedo; bigger and shinier reflector than the Moon)
I propose we call the near side the dark side, because it has almost all of the maria - the dark basaltic lowlands. The far side of the moon is mostly relatively lighter grey highlands and so appears lighter than the near side.
That comment was too long to read so instead let me ask you a question: if the sun is here on earth illuminating everything (i can see it, it's bright outside), then how can it also be on the moon illuminating it as well? That's like saying the lightbulb in my house also illuminates your house
The answer is of course that the moon is just a holographic projection created by the lizard-illuminati to sell more moon-themed products
Nobody on lemmy has a sense of humor lol, jfc.
Oh we can rule out actual discourse on Lemmy, this platform's already dead in the water. There's too many ass burgers on here who will take an extremely literal and narrow interpretation of the series of words you typed ignoring any nuance or implication and assuming the examples you chose to cite are the only that exist. At least a few of them are probably employees of the Russian, North Korean or Chinese governments instructed to add truckloads of bad faith to every corner of the English speaking internet.
Because what they said is word for word what some people unironically believe.
It's not a joke. People are that stupid.
It's why we have /s they didn't use it so they are serious. That's how this works. If you pretend to be a act like a retarded monkey, say things a retarded monkey would say, and you don't tell people you were joking when there is no physical way to tell otherwise.
People assume you are in fact. A retarded monkey.
I hope they are joking. But I literally have no way to tell.
Clearly fake, they don't want us to know about the Nazi bases.
Hint:
Far Side ≠ Dark Side
It can be confusing because the far side of the Moon is sometimes also referred to as the Dark Side because it is "dark" to us, in the sense that we cannot see it from Earth.
Did Pink Floyd lie to us?
Yeah, dark in the same meaning as "the dark ages." It's referring to a lack of knowledge, not a lack of light. Both these terms have fallen out of favor though.
If you blink really fast the heat generated by your eyelids makes a very bright light that is very similar to sun rays.
Fortunately for us the 4 astronauts were very well trained with this technique so they each took turns at lighting up the moon while the others took photographs.
In other news it was probably not a good idea to call it the dark side of the moon hence why it's refer to as the far side of the moon.
Good luck with the blinking, stay hydrated.
blink fast, heat, bright light Source? I've never heard of this before and can't fathom how that might be possible.
I get that she's an English major, but how is that an excuse to not know that cameras typically have a flash so they can illuminate the object being photographed?
I feel like this needs a /s because people might be dumb enough to actually think a flash of some sort was used to capture these images.
But there are no swastika shaped star bases in that Foto. As we all know the nazis are up there so this is obviously fake.
The reptilians ate all the Nazis
based reptilians
Philosophy dipshit here. How does a flash of light illuminate an object that big and far away?
pretty sure that was a joke
My bad haha.
I legit thought you were continuing the joke.
Didn't you know? The enlightenment spreads like an ideology. Traditional physics outplayed.
Philosophical shithead here!
A 15,000,000,000,000 bulb, of course!
But how could we know that that object illuminated by a 15,000,000,000,000 Lumen bulb is even real? For all you know, that massive object illuminated by a 15,000,000,000,000 Lumen bulb could be a fiction, a simple 15,000,000,000,000 Lumen shadow upon the wall!
So how many shitheads does it take to change a 15,000,000,000,000 Lumen bulb?
Just one. See? I just changed it to 15,000,000,000,008 Lumen
Starlight?
I really wanted to correct you but alas you are technically correct. The best kind of correct.
She goes by Annie now.
Headcanon just explained it to her like i would explain it to my 5 year old niece. With apples or something.
I diagrammed it on the whiteboard at work to explain it to the accountant who:
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Believed the far side of the moon was always in shadow
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Believed that we had not yet seen the far side of the moon.
So I taught her a little history and a little celestial mechanics and now she understands.
Thanks, KSP!
Thanks for explaining it to her. One conspiracy theorist less (maybe).
Yo I've had to explain to way too many people lately that the far side isn't "dark". When there's a new moon the light is on the other side....
Got a friend who is a bit of a alien conspiracy nut. Shortly before Moonfall he started with the hollow moon alien base theory (I was laughing tears when I saw the trailer). He said the moon is the only satellite in our solar system that doesn't rotate and that is proof.
You should have seen his face when I demonstrated with a phone and a bottle of beer that the moon does indeed rotate once every full orbit. It got even better when I explained that one day we will loose the moon cause it very slowly drifts away from us.
He's Vasin and Shcherbakov-pilled
yeah but backface culling means the far side isnt rendered, so it really is dark
Shouldn't it be see through and what you actually see here is just the front side in reverse?
nah, the inner face of the outer shell is also not visible, so not rendered. if you actually managed to look at it, you'd get garbage. usually the remnants of previous frames.
This make me sad, English major or otherwise. I mean, you can look up at the moon and see when the far side is at least partially illuminated.
One Pink Floyd album and now we have to deprogram everyone's misconceptions
"There is no dark side of the moon. As a matter of fact it's all dark" - last lyric on DSoTM.
I never said I was afraid of dying
You can infer that the far side is illuminated.
pff, and she calls herself an English major...
But you can’t see the far side from earth…
Right - so?
Earth isn't a source of light.
Well, it is a pretty poor indirect source. Just like the moon lighting things at night by reflecting the sun, Earth does the same.
“If the Naomi be Klein/ you’re doing just fine./ If the Naomi be Wolf/ Oh, buddy. Ooooof.”
Jumped a little when I saw the name.
I was ignorant but curious.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naomi_Wolf
She's got a Doctorate of Philosophy in English Literature from Oxford, is a feminist author, and conspiracy theorist. At a glance I can understand why she's developed a reputation of a certain color.
Care to share any specific grievances?
I overestimated the popularity of that quote!
It's as described elsewhere in the thread. She was an academic with good but incomplete early work, that pivoted hard into the conspiracy world. However because of some almost spooky but incidental similarities to the excellent Naomi Klein, the two were constantly mistaken for one another.
I highly recommend Klein's book Doppleganger. It's an analysis of the modern tech/media space that I imagine would very much appeal to the Fediverse user base.
Oh wow, I'd heard of her positively in the past, but yeah, she's really summed up as "a conspiracy theorist who found feminism first". Even where I agree with her, she's definitely not who I want representing those ideas.
She once suggested periods happen due to vaccines. Likes complaining about 5G in her spare times too.
Oh, buddy. Ooooof.
Is this satire, or is she genuinely confused?
Not a joke. She has said stupider things in the past.
Tweet is real, I looked it up.
Just an english major trying to science
I'm half confused. Light source - the sun, just take it when the moon is in it's new moon phase (side facing earth is dark, side facing sun is light).
But the moon is tidally locked to earth, we always see the same side, so what is taking the photo?
Artemis II visited while the far side was dark, so I guess this is an old tweet otherwise why would NASA be releasing it now?
Happy to be told I'm dumb if I got something wrong...
What is visible isn't actually the far side, they're less than 90 degrees around to the "left."
This feature circled in red is called Grimaldi crater:
It is visible from the Earth; here is the view of the Moon you're probably used to seeing with Grimaldi again circled in red:
I want to make a 2001:ASO reference so bad, with your username and the context and all, but I can't for the life of me muster any cleverness. I also would love to know the answer. So let's be dumb together, Dave.
Edit: Solar eclipse! Thanks someone further down the thread. Looked it up and it appears they had a 54-minute solar eclipse and 40 minutes of radio silence. Must have been amazing.
Well I am a step closer to the answer. Here a similar photo taken on the Artemis II mission with the same identifying features: https://images.nasa.gov/details/art002e009212
In this fully illuminated view of the Moon, the near side (the hemisphere we see from Earth), is visible on the right. It is identifiable by the dark splotches that cover its surface. These are ancient lava flows from a time early in the Moon’s history when it was volcanically active. The large crater west of the lava flows is Orientale basin, a nearly 600-mile-wide crater that straddles the Moon’s near and far sides. Orientale's left half is not visible from Earth, but in this image we have a full view of the crater. Everything to the left of the crater is the far side, the hemisphere we don’t get to see from Earth because the Moon rotates on its axis at the same rate that it orbits round us.
Long story short, like 3/4 of what is in this photo is the near side of the moon.
As a side note, the coloured image on the left of the OP appears to be this image that reddit detectives have decided was edited by OP. No one has found that coloured version on any NASA release.
With grammar like that?
Am English major, can confirm many of us throw grammar out of the window when posting online.
My heart sunk when reading the OP, though. "Great, more ammo for snarky remarks."
It was using "--" as an em-dash out of em-dash context that sent it over the edge.
Imagine an engineer, "Really need to tighten this bolt... Toss me a hammer!"
But, you're right. Most people online don't live under the Grammar Nazi rule, for sake of convenience and casual comms. But in the case of this person's own context, gawd damn. Got their major from Captain Crunch U.
She did say she "was an English major"
The flash of the camera
A screenshot from twitter is not a meme.
This is what your get when you keep referring to it as the "dark side". Ignoramuses beget ignoramuses.
Integrity's headlights
Some questions are best to be asked at an AI of your choice.
At least it won't humiliate you
Hello, ill-informed, nice to meet you.
No one tell her.
The moon is made of concentrated aether, duh
It's because they took the photo during a solar eclipse, of course!
They had the high beams on, duh... 🙄
This one actually made my brain stutter for a few minutes. I couldn't tell whether I'm the dumb one or they.
Ok, you're ill-informed.
RETVRN TO HELIOCENTRISM (nah fuck that doesn't work either)
Reminds me of: https://youtu.be/xGoZZvfEd6A
